I've Got Chills, they're multiplying and i'm losing control

[Shellshock]

But this sure ain't Grease Lightning !! - Forgive The Pun !

Please forgive me for asking yet another question about a possible withdrawal symptom, but I really really would appreciate it if anyone who may of suffered this one could let me know and possibly explain in their own words how it affects them..

I have had this feeling as though I am being injected with Ice cold liquid or something, it's as if my blood and bones are freezing cold and it comes like a rush in that area, it sends a real chill throughout my body and happens when i'm actually in either a warm room or in bed, so it's not as if i'm actually cold if that makes sense..I did suspect that i could maybe be aneamic or something, but recently had a blood test done, i did specifically ask my doctor if this was tested for, she siad yes and that I am not aneamic, so it's a mystery, it really is unpleasant and used to happen in short bursts, but I had an attack of it last night and it lasted ages, alot more than usual so it's got me thinking that this maybe a symptom of something else..

To sum up, it comes like a rush as if im being frozen at my core like liquid is being injected in my veins, it feels so cold, it does pass, but seems to be lasting for longer periods just latetly and i'm really begininng to think this may not be w/d related and could be a sign of something else, if anyone has any ideas I would be extremely grateful for some feedback..

BTW I didn't get this in early w/d, this started in the summer and is still lingering...

Thank You Guys, in advance..

Shellshock

[rdjanis]

Sorry shellshock, I can't help out here, hopefully others will kick in soon.

The title sure got my attention roflmao!

[Shellshock]

Hi Rita,

Thought this would catch attention !

I'm just real puzzled with this one, most of my other symptoms i can generally read something on here that kinda relates to how i'm feeling, but this one i'm not that sure.

Just really trying to establish if this is something I should persue further with my doctor or not (That's another story, my doc's are hopeless)

I was hoping someone a bit more medically knowledgeable would kick in here with some possible alternative conditions, because the only way I can get any joy out of my doctor is to suggest something that it could be (ridiculous I know, but this is what I am up against), i guess i'll give it a bit more time.

Hope you are well, love, Shellshock x

[rdjanis]

We are well shellshock, thanks! My daughter use to get the chills, but not to the extend you are describing here. Members will kick in soon.

[Delynbetter]

I got these symptoms in early withdrawal. Have had couple of them over the past week, but not as severe as your are describing. It sounds like a nerve miscommunication going on - another receptor or dozen - that are trying to retrain themselves.

Are you getting these rushes in different areas of your body, or one or two in particular?

[elisa]

I used to get the chills a few times. Otherwise I don't get those symptoms you described but my feet have been cold for quite a few months and my bones feel chilled. I'm dressing up very warm lately.

[Shellshock]

Originally Posted by notdelynwell

I got these symptoms in early withdrawal. Have had couple of them over the past week, but not as severe as your are describing. It sounds like a nerve miscommunication going on - another receptor or dozen - that are trying to retrain themselves.

Are you getting these rushes in different areas of your body, or one or two in particular?

Hi Notdelyn,

Nerve Miscommunication, hope it is something this simple as it's starting to worry me, i guess if it is this, then time will heal it...

The rushes are generally in my upper body, my chest and arms, but they did appear in my legs as well the other evening. Maybe I have over exaggerated the feeling, i just really struggle sometime to explain how I feel, but i'm sure you will understand this, as I know we all suffer to explain ourselves at some point.. I know when i've had chills before you generally feel cold and get goose bumps, but this seems to be more internally based if that makes sense a real cold internal feeling with NO goose bumps, like my body is shutting down or my blood stream is going cold, sorry if this sounds like something in a sci-fi movie, cannot think of any other way to explain it..

How would you describe your chills?

Look forward to hearing from you, Shellshock

[Shellshock]

Originally Posted by elisa

I used to get the chills a few times. Otherwise I don't get those symptoms you described but my feet have been cold for quite a few months and my bones feel chilled. I'm dressing up very warm lately.

Hi Honey, hope you are still continuing to make good progress !!!

How would you describe your chills Elisa? I can relate to what you say about your bones feeling cold, but this only happens to me when I have one of these extremely cold rush sensations, i don't generaaly feel as though my bones feel cold..

I'm also suffering from extremely cold hands and feet, but have done for quite a while now, my hands are always cold even in the Summer..I think I had this though pre seroxat, but my last 3 years have been such a blur i'm not really sure about this anymore

[Delynbetter]

My sensations come intermittently, one body part at a time, although 3 different areas may get the same sensation within a minute. It's like I can feel something rush up one leg, then the opposite shoulder, then the other leg. In fact, right now I'm feeling it down the sides of both legs even though I am still cozily tucked underneath my down comforter.

(Hubby went to work and kids have no school. I don't "have" to get up right now! Woohoo!)

Now it just went up my left shoulder, and back down my right leg. I'm guessing mine gets worse when I think about it and am not moving...because now I feel like I'm freezing my hiney off - like someone just turned on the a/c.

Cold hands and feet are generally a circulation thing.

[Shellshock]

Maybe I did go over the top with my description, this sounds kinda like what I experience, you are obviously better at explaining than me, I sound like a complete nutcase now, don't I, such a drama queen

You are right when you say intermittent, it starts in one place then moves to another real quickly, but it feels real deep set, does that make any sense to you ? It's not what I consider normal cold feeling with the goose bumps etc, but more internal, sorry to go on.....

Sounds great where you are right now, tucked up in a warm duvet, i'm at home too, not able to work at the moment, but i'm in the office at home so no duvet i'm afraid, just my hands and feet feel cold at the moment, i'm not chillin inside these tend to come when i'm warm (Strange) and are more like rushes than a permanent fixture like the normal feeling cold cos it actually is freezing cold wherever you might be at the time..

Talking about the circulation thing, a few members of my family suffer poor circulation, especially my gran, but she is 78, but despite her age she has suffered with circulation problems for many years, my uncle does too, maybe it's heiradatory (soz about the spellin) can i do anything for this, should I get it checked out, will this cause any other health problems? Sorry got my stress head on today!!!!!!

[Delynbetter]

These may be similar to what we were talking about last week about the ants crawling? No, I don't get the actual chill bumps, but it definitely feels like I am.

[Shellshock]

Please forgive my ignorance Notdelyn, but as i'm fairly new here I am not sure at what stage in recovery you are at, so i wondered if you would be so kind to let me know, just as a comparison really, Thank You !!

Ps I also edited my last post, but you had replied already by the time I had finished, just wondered what your thoughts on the circulation issue were??

[Delynbetter]

I took my last dose of Paxil at the beginning of October.

Circulation can be boosted by moving or massaging the affected areas. When my hands get really cold I open/close the hand, stretch the arm/s above my head - and even massaging the shoulder and/or upper arm of the affected hand will get the blood flowing. Feet are harder for me since the open/close thing doesn't work with an inch or two of toes. Massage of the foot, ankle and calf helps out. When possible keep the feet propped up - knees bent - ultimately in a recliner type position where the feet are level with the heart. That's a hard one to accomodate. Movement is the key.

Heredity, age, weight, level of activity - which I lack optimal conditions in each of those areas - all can play into the poor circulation. Diabetics have a real problem with these kinds of problems because they can't feel that they have lost the circulation in their outer limbs, particularly feet. But the massage and movement I have always found to be the best relief for me.

[zappelina]

Shell, this is definitely withdrawal related. My feet were ice cold up to the knees and my hands were blue and ice cold. Nose and tongue were also cold but better now. Slightly better now, my hands are warm occasionally again and my feet are warm except for the toes. At least on the inside The surface of my whole body is sometimes chilly and sometimes burning hot and very red. I have lots of pain in my hands and feet though. Have you checked your body temperatur`? Mine is fluctuating, slight fever sometimes, too low at other times.

[elisa]

Originally Posted by Shellshock

Hi Honey, hope you are still continuing to make good progress !!!

How would you describe your chills Elisa? I can relate to what you say about your bones feeling cold, but this only happens to me when I have one of these extremely cold rush sensations, i don't generally feel as though my bones feel cold.

I'm also suffering from extremely cold hands and feet, but have done for quite a while now, my hands are always cold even in the Summer..I think I had this though pre seroxat, but my last 3 years have been such a blur i'm not really sure about this anymore

When I described my bones being cold I chose probably the wrong words. It's like you said, being internally cold and without goose bumps. It's constant though so no rushes. Had that in the very beginning of withdrawl.

As for cold feet, I noticed a MARKED difference while tapering, especially during the last 10 mg of equivalent Paxil. The socks I wear aren't warm enough anymore and am thinking of doubling them up! Never had that before.

[Shellshock]

Hi Elisa,

Maybe this is another w/d symptom, I should just accept this and should stop worrying about other horrible possibilities here.. You say that you had this internal cold feeling in early w/d, are you free of this completely now then, as I don't remember having this in early w/d, but then I don't remember much about anything these days, I so wish I had kept a journbal but in the early stages i don't think I could of with the terrible state I was in..

Quote - The socks I wear aren't warm enough anymore and am thinking of doubling them up! Never had that before. I am with you too Elisa, I was just saying to my husband the other day that I desperately need some thermal socks, my feet are so cold.. I'll see how this goes, if these feelings are still there when I feel much closer to recovery i guess i'll worry about it then and maybe have it investigated, until then I am going to try to just let these feelings happen and try not to worry myself about them..

Thanks for your feedback

[Shellshock]

Originally Posted by zappelina

Shell, this is definitely withdrawal related. My feet were ice cold up to the knees and my hands were blue and ice cold. Nose and tongue were also cold but better now. Slightly better now, my hands are warm occasionally again and my feet are warm except for the toes. At least on the inside The surface of my whole body is sometimes chilly and sometimes burning hot and very red. I have lots of pain in my hands and feet though. Have you checked your body temperatur`? Mine is fluctuating, slight fever sometimes, too low at other times.

Hi Zap, nice to hear from you, hows the temperature where you are, we have had real heavy fogg here today, I can barely see out of my front window it's that bad, I guess this isn't helping my feelings at the moment, bring me sunshine !!

I haven't checked my body temperature I don't have any tool to do this, by the way what should a healthy temparature be?? On the other hand it's internal this intense cold feeling when it happens.

Hope you are doing ok,

Shell

[Shellshock]

Just a thought on this one guys, I just read an old post by Bern entitled "I am confused about brain zaps" and something caught my attention, in the reply she received from MrX, which was an extract from the paxil withdrawal guide there is a paragraph in here explaining the zaps and this one explanation did go someway to possibly explain what I am experiencing here, as follows:

Quote "Sudden sensations or rushes of sensations you can’t quite identify traveling through your body and/or limbs. I’ve yet to find the vocabulary to describe a sensation that feels like it’s inside at the bone and yet is also felt as, and leaves a sensitivity to, friction on the skin."

Just wondered what any of you thought, do you think this could be what I was describing, maybe i'm still suffering the zaps, but in a different form.

Look forward to hearing from..

Shellshock

[elisa]

Yeah, some of us experience "surges" in our bodies and brains. Some experience "brain zaps". I believe these can all be traced down to one source, our neurological system. Mine are mostly face/brain related and travel. Luckily they are far and few in between and very mild.

[Shellshock]

This makes sense, i guess this can therefore be put down to a form of surge. I too do still suffer the brain zaps, also get them in my face too, but like you they are much milder now in that department and fewer, I guess at this late stage I was trying to establish that this is still possible, but i guess anything is.. i have today had a lot of short tingling sensations in different parts of my body that last a few seconds then go, especially in the backs of my upper legs, especially when i stand up from sitting down. they have been intermittent but consitent all day since i woke up. Annoying but manageable.

I guess to sum things up my neurological system hasn't repaired sufficient for these things to clear up, i'm going to have to be more patient, i think I could be a candidate for the guiness book of world records for Patience LOL !

[zappelina]

I also get the internal chills on and off. I feel like it starts in my nose and mouth and travels through the stomach and intestines, all the way through. And then comes the burning and redness. I get lots of blisters and ulcers in my mouth and nose as well and sometimes they´re bleeding. Every time this happens I get dizzy spells, turn completely white and almost faint. Takes 10 glasses of water before I´m able to stand up again. Could it be that that the stress from all this activate viruses that some of us have but that don´t m ake us ill during normal circumstances ? I´m thinking in the lines of herpes viruses etc. Some of those can be relly nasty and can infect the nerve system. I´ve had another attack again now my legs are really behaving strangely. The other day it felt like someone was popping popcorn or something in my calf muscles, both deep and near the surface. I looked to see if it was visible and it is. Hundreds of small, visible muscles twitches everywhere. I´ve felt it in my back now and then for a long time. This morningit is in my feet too. I´m scared by this, it´s just too much. Have a neurologist appointmen Dec 16th.

[Buxy`s Back]

shell these waves of chills sounds very much like the burning flushes i got in early withdrawal,yes have had it where my blood feels both freezing and had it where it feels like a burning too,they are like flushes over the top half of the body,mine were really bad in early withdrawal and cold turkey.It is down to the nervous system so heres hoping it does heal in time.I have also had the cold bones too like your body is sooooo cold on the inside but to touch body temp feels normal.Hope its getting better for ya now but it is withdrawal