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Old 12-07-2006, 04:45 PM   #1
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Paroxetine label trickery: isn't that unlawful?

As I was prescribed Deroxat in 2000 I knew that Paxil was a hell of a drug, but I didn't know I was just going to eat it right of way. In fact I didn't known that Deroxat is exaclty mr.Paxil under faked identity. I've found out a couple of weeks ago that Deroxat is one of the many names descenting from Paxil.
One thing I'm not understanding and I think I will never understand is why does Glaxo sell a drug in USA with one name, and the damned same drug in 100 other places with 100 other and different names!!!!

If I invent a product that I do want to sell, if I think my product is good and if I am proud of my good product, I will label my product and have care that the name (LABEL) of my good product is selled worldwide with the proud exclusive label I've choosen for it. NO?
If not, I have invent a bad product that no one wants to buy, and if I am a swindler I will try to sell my product chenging the label.

Paroxetin business is a true FRAUD.

In my land there is a specific law on trickery prohibition wich says:

Food and drugs can't be imitate in order to decept or be manufactured, elaborated, delivered, labelled or advertised on a tricky basis.

So what does the following shame list mean?


Aropax or Oxetine in Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Argentina and Brazil
Aroxat or Aroxat CR in Chile
Cebrilin in Latin America
Deroxat, Paroxetin-Mepha, Parexat in Switzerland
Deroxat in France
Optipar in Finland
Paroxat in Germany and Hungary
Paxil or Paxil CR in the United States, Canada, Mexico, Argentina, Brazil and Venezuela
Pondera in Brazil
Seroxat in Austria, Italy, Belgium, Finland, Sweden, Greece, Israel, The Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Singapore, Spain, Turkey, the UK and China


Paroxetina Acost 20-mg 14 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Acost-Comercial-Generic-Pharma)

Paroxetina Ratiopharm 20-mg 14 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Ratiopharm)

Paroxetina Cinfa 20-mg 14 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Cinfa)

Paroxetina UR 20-mg 14 Tabletten (Paroxetin-USO-Racional)

Paroxetina Tarbis 20-mg 14 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Tarbis-Farma)

Paroxetina Sandoz 20-mg 14 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Sandoz)

Paroxetina Rimafar 20-mg 14 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Rimafar)

Paroxetina Kern 20-mg 14 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Kern-Pharma)

Paroxetina Cuve 20-mg 14 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Cuve-Pharma)

Paroxetina Davur 20-mg 14 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Davur)

Paroxetina Alter 20-mg 14 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Alter)

Paroxetina Bexal 20-mg 14 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Bexal-Farmaceutica)

Paroxetina Mundogen 20-mg 14 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Mundogen-Farma)

Paroxetina Tamarang 20-mg 14 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Tamarang)

Paroxetina Aphar 20-mg 14 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Litaphar)

Paroxetina Duncan 20-mg 14 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Duncan)

Paroxetina Allen 20-mg 14 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Allen-Farmaceutica)

Paroxetina Bayvit 20-mg 14 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Stada)

Paroxetina Wellcome 20-mg 14 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Wellcome-Farmaceutica)

Xetin Belmac 20-mg 14 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Belmac)

Paroxetina Decrox 20-mg 14 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Decrox)

Paroxetina Angenerico 20-mg 14 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Angenerico)

Paratonina 20-mg 14 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Farma-Lepori)

Seroxat 20-mg 14 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Glaxo-Smithkline)

Casbol 20-mg 14 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Fournier)

Motivan 20-mg 14 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Faes-Farma)

Frosinor 20-mg 14 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Novartis-Farmaceutica)

Paroxetin Sandoz N1 20-mg 20 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Sandoz-Pharmaceuticals)

Paroxetina Bayvit 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Stada)

Paroxetina Merck 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Merck-Genericos)

Paroxetina Acost 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetine-Acost-Comercial-Generic-Pharma)

Paroxetina Sandoz 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetine-Sandoz-Farmaceutica)

Paroxetina Tarbis 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetine-Tarbis-Farma)

Paroxetina UR 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetine-USO-Racional)

Xetin 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Belmac)

Paroxetina Davur 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetine-Davur)

Paroxetina Rimafar 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetine-Rimafar)

Paroxetina Aphar 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Lithapar)

Paroxetina Kern 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetine-Kern-Pharma)

Paroxetina Cuve 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetine-Cuve-Farma)

Paroxetina Tamarang 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Tamarang)

Paroxetina Bexal 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Bexal-Farmaceutica)

Paroxetina Wellcome 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Wellcome-Farmaceutica)

Paroxetina Alter 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetine-Alter)

Paroxetina Allen 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Allen-Farmaceutica)

Paroxetina Mundogen 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetine-Mundogen-Farma)

Paratonina 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetine-Farma-Lepori)

Paroxetina Cinfa 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetine-Cinfa)

Paroxetina Ratiopharm 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetine-Ratiopharm)

Paroxetina Decrox 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetine-Decrox)

Paroxetina Duncan 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetine-Duncan)

Paroxetina Angenerico 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetine-Angenerico)

Casbol 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetine-Fournier)

Seroxat 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetine-Glaxo-Smithkline-GSK)

Motivan 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetine-Faes-Farma)

Frosinor 20-mg 28 Tabletten (Paroxetine-Novartis-Farmaceutica)

Paroxetine 20-mg 30 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Apotex)

Seroxat 20-mg 30 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Glaxo)

Paroxetine 20-mg 30 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Hexal)

Paroxetin Sandoz N2 20-mg 50 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Sandoz-Pharmaceuticals)

Paroxetina Bayvit 20-mg 56 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Stada)

Paroxetina Merck 20-mg 56 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Merck-Genericos)

Paroxetina Acost 20-mg 56 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Acost-Comercial-Generic-Pharma)

Paroxetina Ratiopharm 20-mg 56 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Ratiopharm)

Paroxetina Tarbis 20-mg 56 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Tarbis-Farma)

Paroxetina UR 20-mg 56 Tabletten (Paroxetin-USO-Racional)

Xetin 20-mg 56 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Belmac)

Paroxetina Decrox 20-mg 56 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Decrox)

Paroxetina Rimafar 20-mg 56 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Rimafar)

Paroxetina Davur 20-mg 56 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Davur)

Paroxetina Aphar 20-mg 56 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Litaphar)

Paroxetina Kern 20-mg 56 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Kern-Farma)

Paroxetina Mundogen 20-mg 56 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Mundogen-Farma)

Paroxetina Alter 20-mg 56 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Alter)

Paroxetina Tamarang 20-mg 56 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Tamarang)

Paroxetina Cuve 20-mg 56 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Cuve-Farma)

Paroxetina Angenerico 20-mg 56 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Angenerico)

Paratonina 20-mg 56 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Farma-Lepori)

Casbol 20-mg 56 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Fournier)

Motivan 20-mg 56 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Faes-Farma)

Frosinor 20-mg 56 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Novartis-Farmaceutica)

Seroxat 20-mg 56 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Glaxo-Smithkline)

Paroxetine Sandoz N3 20-mg 100 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Sandoz-Pharmaceuticals)

Seroxat 30-mg 30 Tabletten (Paroxetin-Glaxo)


WHY IS THIS HORROR CRAP NOT SELLED WITH HIS TRUE NAME, WITH ONE AND ONLY ONE NAME ALL OVER THE 5 CONTINENTS????
WHAT'S WITH THE FREEDOM OF CHOICE OF THE UMAN BEING?????
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Old 12-07-2006, 05:32 PM   #2
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Re: Paroxetine label trickery: isn't that unlawful?

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WHY IS THIS HORROR CRAP NOT SELLED WITH HIS TRUE NAME, WITH ONE AND ONLY ONE NAME ALL OVER THE 5 CONTINENTS????
Because "Poisonous Horror Crap" didn't go over well in the polls?
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Old 12-07-2006, 06:21 PM   #3
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Re: Paroxetine label trickery: isn't that unlawful?

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Because "Poisonous Horror Crap" didn't go over well in the polls?
I think this is a matter of a strict legal issue not a mardi-gras electioneering...
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Old 12-07-2006, 07:08 PM   #4
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Re: Paroxetine label trickery: isn't that unlawful?

I'm thinking of a possible tax break (or evading) by using different names in various countries and also legal issues? Really I don't know...
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Old 12-07-2006, 08:25 PM   #5
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Because "Poisonous Horror Crap" didn't go over well in the polls?
Yup, that's the reason!!! I have NO clue how they get around the multiple names..Hmmmm something to research!
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Because "Poisonous Horror Crap" didn't go over well in the polls?

Well, Delynbetter, they could've got around that one by simply abbreviating it to PHC? But, no, people might've been 'misled' into thinking that stood for "Potentially Harmful Chemicals!"
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Re: Paroxetine label trickery: isn't that unlawful?

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Because "Poisonous Horror Crap" didn't go over well in the polls?
Hmmm. . .I'd like to see the marketing research on that one. I think they could sell me anything if the commercial had a minor key piano piece and a sad looking dog.
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Kitsyl, they could have done the PHC thing and just pushed it as standing for "Pretty Happy Crap"...with the minor-keyed music and sad dog.
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Because "Poisonous Horror Crap" didn't go over well in the polls?
The makers of this poison are without conscience! I almost wonder if this horror drug was designed so that it is a nightmare to get off??
Seven weeks into my last little cut and I was up all night with horrible stomach pain and diarrhea, not to mention muscle cramping in my feet, that would come when I tried to walk.
I'll get off it, no matter what. GSK I hate you.
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I almost wonder if this horror drug was designed so that it is a nightmare to get off??
I wonder too eileen, and the fact that they changed the label so many ways was made to deceive us all; an authentic BABELES's Tower's system. I think SSRI was designed to create long-term economical prosperity for THEM by getting all of us addicted.

NO good
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I believe that also Antimk and then they sent this literature to the doctors about it being transient. Thank God for Paxil Progress where we can all come together and help each other. There are so many doctors out there who still deny withdrawal.
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..Hmmmm something to research!
I've started doing it. I will tell you...
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Paroxetine label trickery: isn't that unlawful?

Well, you would think so wouldn't you?..
Also you would think that pharmaceutical companies lying to consumers about side effects and withdrawals from their drugs would be unlawful too..
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We know it is Mouse, so why haven't they done something about it?. The masses have been poisoned by Big Pharma. People have died, lives destroyed, broken marriages and jobs lost. People have killed on this stuff. They know this, what is going on, that nothing is done. I would call this murder and fraud.
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Most of the protest and claims against GSK's Paxil are concentrating in to prove that GSK lied or has been untransparent, has been hiding about harmful, side effects and addiction capacity of the paxil drug.
Hard thing, since all drugs are ratified on the basis of a: factor benefits must be =(equal) or +(higher) than harmfulness factors.
Hard thing to prove there was a fraud, since they (FDA+Pharma+Doctor) can always prove that by 49,99% of harmful effects you complain you generously got given 50,01% of benefits. See, you just should say thanks to them.
benefit vs harmfulness policy and officially ratifying statement is the big deal with wich they all can wash their dirthy hands and save their dirthy asses.

For me, the most crushing evidence and the key to prove that GSK's Paxil (and many others!) is a 100% harmful damaging a./or killer drug is so clearly served from GSK itself.
THE CHANGING OF THE LABELS: HAD SWISS GSK CHANGED PAXIL LABEL INTO DEROXAT, GERMAN/ITALIAN GSK INTO SEROXAT, AUSTRALIAN GSK INTO AROPAX ETC ETC IF THEIR PAROXETIN BUSINESS WERE A CLEAN, HARMLESS, GOOD AND -MORE BENEFITS THAN HARMFUL EFFECTS- THING?

HAD THE BRAND LABEL PAXIL EVER BEEN CHANGED WORLDWIDE THAT MANY TIMES AND THAT MANY WAYS IF ONLY PAXIL HAD REVELED TO BE THAT WONDERFUL MIRACOLOUS WELL-DOING HAPPINESS PILL? (same issue with PROZAC into FLuoxetin etc)

If there is a fraud, and this is it, in the marketing of a product in wich, the same Industry do sell the exact same product over the 5 continents with 5 (&more) different unassociables LABELS, that can only be the evidence that the product they try to sell is a dangerous, not-well-doing crap, someone, somewhere else on this planet is refusing, not wishing to swallow down and asking to forbid.
And this is a crime, or better this is THE CRIME.
(this is just my point of wiev)

That you know, has this point ever been relevant for the many anti-GSK's paxil claims?
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Well they don't really try to keep it a secret. Even on GSK's website they list the different names for the different countries. I have no idea of the logic behind renaming drugs in different territories, but I'm pretty sure it's not to confuse patients, or else they wouldn't be as open about it.

The problem is when doctors give out drugs without telling patients that yes, the drug they are taking is the same one they've read about in the newspapers. It's very easy to find out - and no one should put a drug in their body without finding out what it is - but people should be told.
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I have no idea of the logic behind renaming drugs in different territories, but I'm pretty sure it's not to confuse patients, or else they wouldn't be as open about it.
They did/do this with the diazepams, too. Xanor and Xanax are one and the same, but have different names in different countries.
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Well they don't really try to keep it a secret. Even on GSK's website they list the different names for the different countries. I have no idea of the logic behind renaming drugs in different territories, but I'm pretty sure it's not to confuse patients, or else they wouldn't be as open about it.

The problem is when doctors give out drugs without telling patients that yes, the drug they are taking is the same one they've read about in the newspapers. It's very easy to find out - and no one should put a drug in their body without finding out what it is - but people should be told.

Loss, you say in GSK website they list the different names for the different countries. Look this is not true. Since every country have his own GSK website:
In GSK.com you find Paxil for USA and Seroxat for UK Type "Deroxat" in www.gsk.com website: NO RESULTS
Tipe Aropax in the www.gsk.com website: NO RESULTS
Type Paxil in the swiss www.gsk.ch: NO RESULTS
Type Paxil in the www.gsk.com/au: NONE
And so on. No connection between the different names on the official GSK websites.
That open they are, so?

The problem are doctors?
As I was told from my doctor I had an AD prescribed because my backache was a probable depression symptom (...) I said ok let's try but don't give me stuffs like the damned ill-famed Fluctine I had in 1993 and stopped after a week as I found out it was PROZAC of wich I've read no good things.
He laughed and answered, c'mon, don't listen to all the craps newspaper are writing, that's just american-style scarecrows. I give you the very newest latest (it was in 2000!!) generation drug and it is very good. Deroxat! (the swiss Paxil)

1) It is NOT very easy to find out. How many people had a own PC at home in 1993 and had the chance to connect and find info in the net? How many in 2000? and how many today?

Loss you assume it is logic to have a internet connection, it is logic that everyone who's having a drug prescribed runs at home and start spending hours surfing the net to find out "what about the drug", it is logic to link the drug to a class action or to protests. And even if it is, believe me or better try out yourself, it is not that easy at all to link the different names, especially if you don't live in the US. Some countries are decads behind, respect to what happens in the USA. As Switzerland started sell Deroxat in 1999, after your GSK have started sell Paxil in the USA 1993 (if I am right), in the US you have started class actions against Paxil and our medias starts reporting of it in 2005.

I have a huge admiration to all of you american out there, I am thankful to all of you and I must say thanks to PAXILPROGRESS . I could start surf and discover the truth only a few months ago. As I was prescribed Deroxat in 2000 I had no PC! As I started with withdrawal horror in 2003 I had a PC, but I could not even figure out to spend a hour surfing in the net, I were laid up in bed for months and surf the net was the last on the list of things to do.

This is what happens to thousand of people out there, today still.
I can only pray for them all, and beg they have the chance to connect to internet and the ability to surf to the right place.

People should be told, yes. Let's tell it to GSK.
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"for me, the beauty of the Nature, is the only way why my brief appearing on this Earth may be adhesion and not despair" (A.G.)
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1993 Prozac(Fluoxetine) 1week stopped
1994 Bromazepam 3mg +
1997 Lorazepam 25mg +
2000 Paxil(Deroxat)20mg
2003 18mg
2004 15mg
2005 20-->30mg
2006/4 15mg
2006/8 10mg
2006/12 8,75mg 12.09.06 tapering failure-->Panic-->back to 10mg+Zepam
2007/03 2,5mg
2007/7/7 STOP PAXIL
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