liver detox

shoemonger · 10-30-2007, 08:08 AM

hi everyone

obviously ssri's and liver function are well documented, is it wise to try a liver detox or cleanse?

s/m

shoemonger · 10-30-2007, 08:47 AM

thought this would go into todays new threads?

s/m

Hopefull · 10-30-2007, 03:05 PM

I had abnormal LFT's at my physical in June, I stopped paxi in July and repeat bloodwork done earlier October revealed that they returned to normal. I am having other issues with w/d, blurry vision, floaters, weird pains...but at least the liver is working well again!?!

shoemonger · 10-30-2007, 04:13 PM

i dont mean having a liver detox for a specific medical problem more from a health store for a general clean up??
would anyone advise against this whilst on paxil?

s/m

LCrawford67 · 10-30-2007, 04:15 PM

You have to be careful with detoxing. Detoxing dumps a load of toxins into your body and can make w/d symptoms very severe.

10-30-2007, 04:52 PM

The most gentle thing I have heard to cleanse the liver in w/d is just to put fresh lemon juice in your water.

I wouldn't touch a cleanse in w/d if you paid me, even if one had a more mild w/d...still wouldn't touch it. I would wait until the w/d was over for sure.

emmy

slappyintheface · 10-30-2007, 05:20 PM

I have heard that some detox programs actually pull all of the residual ssri out of your body at once and therfore throws you into a cold turkey withdrawal. I bought some detox foot patches but I am going to wait until I am completely off of Paxil for about 6 months to use them.

Scott · 10-30-2007, 05:31 PM

you can try milk thistle at least

TryingtoGetWell · 10-30-2007, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotia21

I have heard that some detox programs actually pull all of the residual ssri out of your body at once and therfore throws you into a cold turkey withdrawal. I bought some detox foot patches but I am going to wait until I am completely off of Paxil for about 6 months to use them.

I was concerned about any residual ssri leaving the body too quickly, and also if one is still tapering, that any detox, possibly even milk thistle, might cause the med still being taken while tapering (or still in the body after going off) to leave the body too quickly.

I would be very careful about this. A mild detoxing like milk thistle (which is mild but very effective) might be a good idea in the future, but I would err on the side of caution and wait for quite some time until w/d and recovery are over, unless there were an acute medical problem from exposure to something that presents an immediate danger.

Dawn B. · 10-30-2007, 08:06 PM

I'm real sensitive to stuff, but I have been using the verseo foot patches with no problem, and once in a while I drink a cup of 'AM detox tea' made by celestial seasons. It's mild, it gave me no problems. My homeopath said that teas are a very gentle way to detox. This one has milk thisle in it.
Dawn <><

10-31-2007, 05:54 AM

i was on the pill for a year. is been already 8 months. i'm sstill having withdrawal symptoms. it's pretty hard. i don't want to take anything i'm afraid is going to make it worst

shoemonger · 10-31-2007, 06:24 AM

sounds like milk thistle is best overall. i may get slapped on the wrist for this one but a couple of years ago whilst at 20mgs i had a course of colonic irrigation would this have made me feel worse?

s/m

Johnnny off Paxil · 10-31-2007, 12:16 PM

Milk thistle are one of the better ones, I've used it and its very effective and gentle...I also have a more "powerful" detox formula but have stayed away from it... I am now "detoxing" via acupuncture, its very powerful and I only recommend this at a late date in withdrawal.

Regards, Johnny

Dawn B. · 10-31-2007, 12:37 PM

I forgot to mention, in regard to the foot pad: My husband and I both used them, then sent them to a lab to see what came out of us. There was a bunch of chemicals, including arsenic, and they even found isopropyl alcohol, (rubbing alcohol) and other stuff!! They really do work, and they don't cause ANY side effects. I got mine online from Verseo.
BTW: I don't think the colonics would have hurt you. It's just a huge enema.
Dawn <><

Songbird · 10-31-2007, 04:41 PM

I read here that detoxing is not recommended during withdrawal because it can remove the drug from your system faster, causing you to wean faster than you had intended.

But I have been having problems with gallstones and have been doing gallbladder cleanses, which seem to be helping. I weighed it up and decided the gallbladder attacks were worse than withdrawal and needed immediate action. Because gallstones are related to bile production, I've been using a liver tonic containing milk thistle and dandelion with no problems.

Dawn B. · 10-31-2007, 07:28 PM

I was drinking different teas, one was straigh dandelion, the other was a combo of liver cleanse, milk thisle, etc. None of the teas bothered me at all. My homeopath said the teas are very gentle. Not like taking the herb straight up.

TryingtoGetWell · 10-31-2007, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawn B.

I forgot to mention, in regard to the foot pad: My husband and I both used them, then sent them to a lab to see what came out of us. There was a bunch of chemicals, including arsenic, and they even found isopropyl alcohol, (rubbing alcohol) and other stuff!! They really do work, and they don't cause ANY side effects. I got mine online from Verseo.
BTW: I don't think the colonics would have hurt you. It's just a huge enema.
Dawn <><

Dawn, thanks so much for posting this. I once considered using these foot pads, but was skeptical about them.

I'm waiting til my recovery is better since I'm still in a condition where I don't want to draw any more toxins out at this time out of concern it could make me sicker, but I certainly want to try those pads when my health is better, since I know I had heavy metal and other toxic exposures, though my doctor (who specializes in dealing with such things) feels I should avoid anything detoxing at this time.

So glad to hear those pads really work. Thanks!

Songbird · 10-31-2007, 10:58 PM

I had never heard of them before, they sound very interesting!

10-30-2007, 08:08 AM	#1
shoemonger Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 109	liver detox hi everyone obviously ssri's and liver function are well documented, is it wise to try a liver detox or cleanse? s/m

10-30-2007, 08:47 AM	#2
shoemonger Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 109	Re: liver detox thought this would go into todays new threads? s/m

10-30-2007, 03:05 PM	#3
Hopefull Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 26	Re: liver detox I had abnormal LFT's at my physical in June, I stopped paxi in July and repeat bloodwork done earlier October revealed that they returned to normal. I am having other issues with w/d, blurry vision, floaters, weird pains...but at least the liver is working well again!?!

10-30-2007, 04:13 PM	#4
shoemonger Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 109	Re: liver detox i dont mean having a liver detox for a specific medical problem more from a health store for a general clean up?? would anyone advise against this whilst on paxil? s/m

10-30-2007, 04:15 PM	#5
LCrawford67 Moderator "Everybody poops" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 34,484	Re: liver detox You have to be careful with detoxing. Detoxing dumps a load of toxins into your body and can make w/d symptoms very severe. __________________ aka LC aka Laurie C. Paxil, 20 mg since 1997, for IBS Two unsuccessful attempts to quit. Started tapering 11/27/06 PAXIL FREE 12/29/07 Today is the best day, EVER!

10-30-2007, 04:52 PM	#6
emmy Posts: n/a	Re: liver detox The most gentle thing I have heard to cleanse the liver in w/d is just to put fresh lemon juice in your water. I wouldn't touch a cleanse in w/d if you paid me, even if one had a more mild w/d...still wouldn't touch it. I would wait until the w/d was over for sure. emmy

10-30-2007, 05:20 PM	#7
slappyintheface "doesn't use the big stamp" Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 6,601	Re: liver detox I have heard that some detox programs actually pull all of the residual ssri out of your body at once and therfore throws you into a cold turkey withdrawal. I bought some detox foot patches but I am going to wait until I am completely off of Paxil for about 6 months to use them. __________________ 1/05/07 20mg-17.5 1/20 17.5-15 2/24 15-12.5 3/08 12.5-10 3/29 10-7.5 4/12 7.5-5 6/15 5-3.75 6/30 3.75-2.5 7/28 2.5-1.5ish 8/11 1.5-1 8/25 1- zero "Keep lighting candles, eventually nobody will be in the dark" me "Time does not come in pill form" me http://www.slappyintheface.com

10-30-2007, 05:31 PM	#8
Scott Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: somewhere in between Posts: 11,591	Re: liver detox you can try milk thistle at least __________________ Scott aka Scott What has happened to it all? Crazy, some are saying Where is the life that I recognize? Gone away But I won't cry for yesterday There's an ordinary world Somehow I have to find And as I try to make my way To the ordinary world I will learn to survive surviving an ssri reaction alternative anxiety treatments

10-30-2007, 08:06 PM	#10
Dawn B. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ramona, CA. Posts: 1,351	Re: liver detox I'm real sensitive to stuff, but I have been using the verseo foot patches with no problem, and once in a while I drink a cup of 'AM detox tea' made by celestial seasons. It's mild, it gave me no problems. My homeopath said that teas are a very gentle way to detox. This one has milk thisle in it. Dawn <>< __________________ Mt 19:26 'With God, all things are possible' Started Paxil 2000 for post partem anxiety Happily on it until it pooped out 2/07 Started cutting down way too fast 7/07 from 20 mg. to 10 mg. and got very sick. Found PP, went back to 13 mg. Waited and waited and never stablized. Began slow wean, down to 7 mg. over a year. Never felt well. Trashed the paxil at 7 mg. in Aug. '08.

10-31-2007, 05:54 AM	#11
claudia76 Posts: n/a	Re: liver detox i was on the pill for a year. is been already 8 months. i'm sstill having withdrawal symptoms. it's pretty hard. i don't want to take anything i'm afraid is going to make it worst

10-31-2007, 06:24 AM	#12
shoemonger Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 109	Re: liver detox sounds like milk thistle is best overall. i may get slapped on the wrist for this one but a couple of years ago whilst at 20mgs i had a course of colonic irrigation would this have made me feel worse? s/m

10-31-2007, 12:16 PM	#13
Johnnny off Paxil Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Persona Non Grata... I am No Expert on Nothing Posts: 3,104	Re: liver detox Milk thistle are one of the better ones, I've used it and its very effective and gentle...I also have a more "powerful" detox formula but have stayed away from it... I am now "detoxing" via acupuncture, its very powerful and I only recommend this at a late date in withdrawal. Regards, Johnny

10-31-2007, 12:37 PM	#14
Dawn B. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ramona, CA. Posts: 1,351	Re: liver detox I forgot to mention, in regard to the foot pad: My husband and I both used them, then sent them to a lab to see what came out of us. There was a bunch of chemicals, including arsenic, and they even found isopropyl alcohol, (rubbing alcohol) and other stuff!! They really do work, and they don't cause ANY side effects. I got mine online from Verseo. BTW: I don't think the colonics would have hurt you. It's just a huge enema. Dawn <>< __________________ Mt 19:26 'With God, all things are possible' Started Paxil 2000 for post partem anxiety Happily on it until it pooped out 2/07 Started cutting down way too fast 7/07 from 20 mg. to 10 mg. and got very sick. Found PP, went back to 13 mg. Waited and waited and never stablized. Began slow wean, down to 7 mg. over a year. Never felt well. Trashed the paxil at 7 mg. in Aug. '08.

10-31-2007, 04:41 PM	#15
Songbird Queen of the appendage vocabulary Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 11,322	Re: liver detox I read here that detoxing is not recommended during withdrawal because it can remove the drug from your system faster, causing you to wean faster than you had intended. But I have been having problems with gallstones and have been doing gallbladder cleanses, which seem to be helping. I weighed it up and decided the gallbladder attacks were worse than withdrawal and needed immediate action. Because gallstones are related to bile production, I've been using a liver tonic containing milk thistle and dandelion with no problems. __________________ Jul 01-Feb 02 Aropax Feb-Dec 03 Citalopram Jul 04 Aropax Jan 07-Feb 08 20mg > 5mg Apr 4.5mg 5mg Jun 10mg Jul 20mg Oct Loxamine Dec 17.5mg 15mg 2009 24 Jan 12.5mg 16 Feb 10mg 10 May 9mg 30 May 8mg 5 July 7.5mg 2 Aug 7.25mg 1 Sep 7mg 9 Oct 6.75mg 8 Nov 6.5mg 18 Dec 6.3mg 2010 30 Aug 6.15mg 28 Nov 6 mg 2011 20 Feb 5.9mg 11 Apr 5.8mg 29 May 5.7mg 24 Jun 5.6mg 17 Sep 5.5mg 2 Nov 5.4mg 26 Dec 5.3mg 2012 19 Feb 5.2mg 14 Oct 5.1mg 6 Dec 5mg 25 Jan 4.9mg

10-31-2007, 07:28 PM	#16
Dawn B. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ramona, CA. Posts: 1,351	Re: liver detox I was drinking different teas, one was straigh dandelion, the other was a combo of liver cleanse, milk thisle, etc. None of the teas bothered me at all. My homeopath said the teas are very gentle. Not like taking the herb straight up. __________________ Mt 19:26 'With God, all things are possible' Started Paxil 2000 for post partem anxiety Happily on it until it pooped out 2/07 Started cutting down way too fast 7/07 from 20 mg. to 10 mg. and got very sick. Found PP, went back to 13 mg. Waited and waited and never stablized. Began slow wean, down to 7 mg. over a year. Never felt well. Trashed the paxil at 7 mg. in Aug. '08.

10-31-2007, 10:58 PM	#18
Songbird Queen of the appendage vocabulary Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 11,322	Re: liver detox I had never heard of them before, they sound very interesting! __________________ Jul 01-Feb 02 Aropax Feb-Dec 03 Citalopram Jul 04 Aropax Jan 07-Feb 08 20mg > 5mg Apr 4.5mg 5mg Jun 10mg Jul 20mg Oct Loxamine Dec 17.5mg 15mg 2009 24 Jan 12.5mg 16 Feb 10mg 10 May 9mg 30 May 8mg 5 July 7.5mg 2 Aug 7.25mg 1 Sep 7mg 9 Oct 6.75mg 8 Nov 6.5mg 18 Dec 6.3mg 2010 30 Aug 6.15mg 28 Nov 6 mg 2011 20 Feb 5.9mg 11 Apr 5.8mg 29 May 5.7mg 24 Jun 5.6mg 17 Sep 5.5mg 2 Nov 5.4mg 26 Dec 5.3mg 2012 19 Feb 5.2mg 14 Oct 5.1mg 6 Dec 5mg 25 Jan 4.9mg

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