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Old 08-31-2010, 01:38 PM   #1
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I'm just wondering

How come the whole world is silent about SSRIs? they destroy the lives of so many people, cause emotional scars, physical scars to so many people.people become mentally ill people try to suicide. The world is silent and continues to sell this crap to anyone. We have a psychologist on the radio program she is an idiot saying to anyone who has a little problem to take SSRIs. I'm just shocked the conspiracy of silence around this issue. This drug has destroyed my life. There is no way in hell I ever be one hundred percent healthy, it turned me into a depressed person, numbed, without feelings like a robot. ssri are hell.
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Old 08-31-2010, 03:18 PM   #2
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Re: I'm just wondering

I feel the same way, ssris just trick the body into thinking it is recovering and when you're happy and want to leave the drug you realize you're still the same and worse the drug wont leave you alone, I just started 10mg trying to stabilize and yesterday I had a panic attack I feel even 10mg is too much hope I can stabilize soon as well as yourself, do you get panic attacks as well?
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Old 08-31-2010, 09:49 PM   #3
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Re: I'm just wondering

It is amazing the extent of the silence. We're a small corner of truth here regarding these drugs, yet to the majority we probably just look like a bunch of people online with off-the-wall views. Having suffered (and still suffering) through the afferaffects of an SSRI, I did not know anyone took anhedonia seriously till i got here (if you google it, you find the negative symptoms of schizophrenia). But for others who have never taken an SSRI and just assume they are great drugs.....how we must look to other people. Yet it's the friggen (unpopular) truth. I will never, ever listen to an unpopular view or opinion and dismiss it, again. There is massive ignorance out there on SSRI drugs and their actual effects.
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:06 PM   #4
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Re: I'm just wondering

Your telling me..I WORK for a pharmacy chain!! I told all this to the head pharmacist about what I went thru..He looked at me as if I were nuts..said it should only have taken a month to discontinue paxil AND feel normal again..Maybe I should have told him I was addicted to heroin.. at least theres some kinda treatment for that!!
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:08 PM   #5
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Re: I'm just wondering

Look at ciggarettes. Everyone knows how bad they are yet governments still allow it and make money of it.
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:34 PM   #6
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Re: I'm just wondering

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Look at ciggarettes. Everyone knows how bad they are yet governments still allow it and make money of it.
The thing about tobacco products is that we're given ample warning about the adverse effects, so much so that it borders on subconcious conditioning, and it's never prescribed. People use it of their own free will, and, going off-topic for a moment, something to keep in mind is that ideas like "no one ever likes it their first time" and "they're not inherintly pleasurable", at least when applied on a universal scale, are lies. It SHOULD be allowed because a government's in no position to dictate what we can and can't choose to do with our bodies, and to suggest otherwise is tantamount to advocating fascism, in my opinion.


And something else that needs to be taken into consideration when dealing with the silence regarding SSRI withdrawal is that in the majority of cases, they work, and in the majority of cases, people don't go through hell when coming off of them; if this wasn't the case, the distribution of them would've ceased by now.

Furthermore(and this is something that DOES anger me greatly), most modern medicial and psychological sciences seek to create complete uniformity when it comes to the mind and body, and tend to ignore anomalies and idiosyncracies in order to push this objective further. In this context, it's easy to see why the situation described in the last paragraph holds so much weight over our pleas and testimonies.
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Old 08-31-2010, 11:33 PM   #7
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I feel the same way, ssris just trick the body into thinking it is recovering and when you're happy and want to leave the drug you realize you're still the same and worse the drug wont leave you alone, I just started 10mg trying to stabilize and yesterday I had a panic attack I feel even 10mg is too much hope I can stabilize soon as well as yourself, do you get panic attacks as well?
i got them when i changed the dose, when i got up and down. i feel this drug controls me and i am scared of it
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Old 09-01-2010, 02:54 AM   #8
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Re: I'm just wondering

Dan, it's pretty recent that the adverse effects of tobacco products were revealed. I'm in my 60s, and for a long time tobacco products were actually recommended to help people relax. I remember seeing TV commercials very frequently - almost all the time! when I was young, where a doctor in a white lab coat and a stethoscope around his neck would hold up a package of cigarettes and endorse that brand as what he used!

Can't find on YouTube the one I was referring to that touted the health benefits, but there were so many cigarette commercials; we saw them every day for decades. These will give you some idea:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyhvHB62ph8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxUZI0vE0FM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0tWO...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI25DmCoWvI

It was only after great effort and much opposition that dedicated people got the truth out. That will happen someday with SSRIs too, I really believe. Though I'm cynical enough to say there will be something else dangerous to replace that will be heavily marketed and the truth concealed unless one seeks it out.
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Old 09-01-2010, 12:39 PM   #9
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Dan, it's pretty recent that the adverse effects of tobacco products were revealed. I'm in my 60s, and for a long time tobacco products were actually recommended to help people relax. I remember seeing TV commercials very frequently - almost all the time! when I was young, where a doctor in a white lab coat and a stethoscope around his neck would hold up a package of cigarettes and endorse that brand as what he used!
Oh, I know. But that's been over for years. All my generation hears in regards to cigarettes, from the moment we're capable of comprehending information, is how bad they are, to the point where we're even actively lied to about them(see my last post), and as a result, most smokers I've seen are treated the same way African-Americans were in the 1950s. The person I was replying to seemed to be suggesting that tobacco should be banned, which, as I said and maintain, is tantamount to advocating fascism in my opinion.
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Old 09-01-2010, 12:49 PM   #10
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Re: I'm just wondering

You also need to keep in mind that most people think that it is the original symptoms coming back or getting worse and they never put 2 and 2 together and realize it is the medication doing it to them and not the "original" problem at all. They also don't realize that unless you get help for whatever issue brought you to the medication to begin with that once you remove the medication those issues are still there and still need to be dealt with. I am experiencing this myself first hand and I wish I had taken the advice of people here when they told me I should get therapy to help me deal with the anxiety and agoraphobia while I was still weaning.
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Old 09-01-2010, 11:12 PM   #11
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It was only after great effort and much opposition that dedicated people got the truth out.
The same thing happened with benzos. In the 70s and 80s doctors believed they were non-addictive. It is only very recently that doctors have become aware of how addictive they are. I believe eventually the truth about SSRIs will get out, just as it did eventually for benzos.
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