Odd Glass of Wine during Withdrawal

miranda1 · 02-01-2012, 07:54 AM

Just wondering will the odd glass of wine really be a big deal during withdrawal? not getting drunk or anything...just thinking with weaning so slowly it's such a long time to not be able to have the odd glass

Miranda
paxil 20mg 2000-2012
Jan 2012 15mg paxil

caperjackie · 02-01-2012, 09:15 AM

Hi Miranda and welcome to PP. I drank wine while weaning and it didn't present too much of a problem. After I was off totally though I didn't drink anything for over 3 months - was only just getting through the days and didn't dare risk making it worse. Now I have the occassional glass with no problems. I think there are a few folk on here who are still weaning and don't deny themselves a drink now and again.

miranda1 · 02-01-2012, 09:27 AM

Thanks for your response. I just think I should try to keep life as normal as possible and not feel like i've restricted my normalness. It's almost like a punishment not to have the odd glass of wine..i'm just talking like a glass of wine on a saturday night, not alot and not every saturday, i'm not a big drinker.

rangerNY · 02-01-2012, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by miranda1

I just think I should try to keep life as normal as possible and not feel like i've restricted my normalness.

That is an EXCELLENT strategy! A glass of wine is harmless. I'd say have a few sips, take it slow and see how you feel. Sometimes, depending on your particular issues, anything that alters perception can make things a bit worse temporarily, so enjoy your treat keeping in mind that it's SUPPOSED to make you feel different. LOL

Brassmonkey · 02-01-2012, 11:25 AM

I was drinking quite heavily before and during the beginning of my taper and all it did was make me feel like c**p. I quit 13 weeks ago and feel much better for it. Some of the others here have reported that hey will have some depression and anxiety for a few days after some heavier drinking. If you pay attention to how it affects you I don't think shere should be a problem. I have to agree with RangerNY in that keeping your life as normal as possible is a good idea.

Lots of luck on your W/D.

miranda1 · 02-01-2012, 04:49 PM

Drew, well I just think I need to carry on as normal as I can!
BrassMonkey, I could definitely see how daily or heavy drinking could make you feel like crap! I will try a glass here and there and see if I feel any different then and or the next day.

Ana Q · 04-05-2012, 10:15 PM

I drank on Paxil, off Paxil, and during withdrawal it saved my life! At night some of the terror would ease and the wine really let me enjoy a few moments of sanity before the fear took hold again in the morning. It was a huge help for me.

chiropteran · 04-06-2012, 05:41 PM

Yup, I'm mid-wean, have the very occasional glass of wine when I'm out to tea with people, maybe once a month, and never more than a glass. It hasn't seemed to do me any harm so far

miranda1 · 04-10-2012, 11:22 AM

well i've kept to my normal ways and all seems great! so i think keeping it normal works for me, but i'm sure excessive drinking would put a spin on my moods

wanting2quit · 04-20-2012, 05:30 PM

If I have a glass, I'm okay. I have found though that if I have more than one glass, even a glass and a half, it can spin me into a terrible panic attack and I'll be up the whole night. I'm weaning off Lexapro though, not Paxil, so I'm not sure if that makes a difference.

calamityjane · 04-21-2012, 12:14 AM

I have treated myself to drinks a few times, and it did not worsen my withdrawal at all- was even calming. I'm not advising anyone to drink, though; just relating my own experience. Please make your decision carefully and with your doctor's knowledge first.

obliviousjo · 04-21-2012, 12:29 AM

I've been off effexor for like two and a half months and I do go out and have a few sometimes...On the nights I've had more than two to three, I have noticed that the next day I get those brain zaps again..usually not much of an issue anymore...So I say just be aware of it but I agree that it nice to be able to have a nice glass or two of wine...I had three vodka and cranberry last night, woke up feeling amazing

...I gave up cocktails for yrs bc I was raising my kids but I'm now fully looking foreward to being a social drinker again

JeffroUK · 04-29-2012, 05:21 AM

Its all about the moderation! Since starting my taper off 20mg alcohol is having such a strong effect on me!! as such so are the hangovers

. One beer or wine is fine I reckon. Its all about the individual but anymore than 2-3 beers and its making me feel awful at the moment!!

Aurelius · 07-28-2012, 11:54 PM

When I was in the lions den of withdrawal stages, I didn't touch a drop of alcohol. That probably lasted about 3 months. After things got better, I experimented with alcohol, but quickly found out that I had to be careful. These days, it's best for me to have an occasional drink or two, but nothing more than that. I'm currently in month 6 of withdrawal. But to be honest, I'm ok with not drinking at all. I actually craved alcohol more while I was on meds, than anytime before or after them. So I really don't miss it very much.

Coffee is another story. I've ultra sensitive to coffee, now. But I did have a love for coffee. :-( If I drink even a cup, now, it triggers my withdrawals for the entire day. No fun at all. Can't even drink half-caf. Only decaff (and I sometimes have to be careful with that). So goodbye, caffeinated coffee.

cheri · 07-29-2012, 02:53 PM

I haven't altered my drinking any since my taper. I have always went through stages where I want to drink and others where I don't want to at all. This summer I've drank maybe a total of three times. Twice was more then one drink. I haven't noticed a difference. I'm in a wedding in a couple of weeks so I will be drinking more then one that night.

Bilo76 · 07-29-2012, 05:05 PM

I wouldnt do it. Alcohol is a drug and it brings no good. And why should you provoke it?

Timinjapan · 07-29-2012, 08:40 PM

I did it! It worked for me. After two weeks alcohol free and with only one previous "good mood" day the whole time, I drank a can of good beer last night and to my surprise I woke up feeling better this morning. These things depend on so many factors that it is hard to decide for ourselves what's best to do, let alone for other people.

Mantaray · 08-21-2012, 08:49 AM

Beer had not bothered me until last week. I had 2 and came home and cried like a baby and was full of anxiety. Be careful. I had a couple beers this weekend with no harm done.

02-01-2012, 07:54 AM	#1
miranda1 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 60	Odd Glass of Wine during Withdrawal Just wondering will the odd glass of wine really be a big deal during withdrawal? not getting drunk or anything...just thinking with weaning so slowly it's such a long time to not be able to have the odd glass Miranda paxil 20mg 2000-2012 Jan 2012 15mg paxil

02-01-2012, 09:15 AM	#2
caperjackie Join Date: May 2011 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 811	Re: Odd Glass of Wine during Withdrawal Hi Miranda and welcome to PP. I drank wine while weaning and it didn't present too much of a problem. After I was off totally though I didn't drink anything for over 3 months - was only just getting through the days and didn't dare risk making it worse. Now I have the occassional glass with no problems. I think there are a few folk on here who are still weaning and don't deny themselves a drink now and again. __________________ Was on Paxil 20mg for a few years Switched to Paxil 12.5 CR over 10 years ago Total time on Paxil around 14 years 2 failed attempts at cold turkey Tapered for over a year by skipping one dose per week each month Paxil free since April 14th 2011 Still having withdrawal symptoms but getting better LIFE IS GOOD TOTALLY DRUG FREE Supplements - Fish oils, Cal/mag, GABA September 2012 - Supplement free and feeling great

02-01-2012, 09:27 AM	#3
miranda1 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 60	Re: Odd Glass of Wine during Withdrawal Thanks for your response. I just think I should try to keep life as normal as possible and not feel like i've restricted my normalness. It's almost like a punishment not to have the odd glass of wine..i'm just talking like a glass of wine on a saturday night, not alot and not every saturday, i'm not a big drinker. __________________ Paxil 20mg from 2000 to Jan 2012 Used for panic attacks Weaned to 15mg Jan.25/2012 down to 12.5 Feb.3/2011 as i'm feeling great down to 10 Feb.10/2011 Down to 7.5 Feb 19 down to 3.25 March 11th!!! PAXIL FREE Since March 16,2011 Started Counselling Jan. 31st First panic attack paxil free April 14th took 15mg paxil April16th as i just can't stand nervousness started back at 10 April 17th where things were good

02-01-2012, 11:25 AM	#5
Brassmonkey Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: California Posts: 2,023	Re: Odd Glass of Wine during Withdrawal I was drinking quite heavily before and during the beginning of my taper and all it did was make me feel like c**p. I quit 13 weeks ago and feel much better for it. Some of the others here have reported that hey will have some depression and anxiety for a few days after some heavier drinking. If you pay attention to how it affects you I don't think shere should be a problem. I have to agree with RangerNY in that keeping your life as normal as possible is a good idea. Lots of luck on your W/D. __________________ AKA Tom 1994 started 20mg Paxil 1999 updosed to 30mg 2005 updosed to 40mg 2010 started not to work very well 09/2011 CTed from 15oz vodka a night 09/2011 dropped to 36mg 06/2012 dropped to 19mg (past halfway point) 08/2012 dropped to 17.1mg 09/2012 dropped to 15.2mg 11/2012 dropped to 13.8mg 12/2012 dropped to 12.4mg 01/2013 dropped to 11.1mg 03/2013 dropped to 10.0mg

02-01-2012, 04:49 PM	#6
miranda1 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 60	Re: Odd Glass of Wine during Withdrawal Drew, well I just think I need to carry on as normal as I can! BrassMonkey, I could definitely see how daily or heavy drinking could make you feel like crap! I will try a glass here and there and see if I feel any different then and or the next day. __________________ Paxil 20mg from 2000 to Jan 2012 Used for panic attacks Weaned to 15mg Jan.25/2012 down to 12.5 Feb.3/2011 as i'm feeling great down to 10 Feb.10/2011 Down to 7.5 Feb 19 down to 3.25 March 11th!!! PAXIL FREE Since March 16,2011 Started Counselling Jan. 31st First panic attack paxil free April 14th took 15mg paxil April16th as i just can't stand nervousness started back at 10 April 17th where things were good

04-05-2012, 10:15 PM	#7
Ana Q Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Chicago Posts: 69	Re: Odd Glass of Wine during Withdrawal I drank on Paxil, off Paxil, and during withdrawal it saved my life! At night some of the terror would ease and the wine really let me enjoy a few moments of sanity before the fear took hold again in the morning. It was a huge help for me. __________________ AQ Paxil 20mg - 1996- Feb 2011 Med free - March '11 - May '11 Zoloft 50mg - May '11 - June '11 Paxil 20mg - July 2011 to current Reinstatement has been a long road, but I finally made it. I hope one day to be paxil free again. You don't have to control your thoughts; you just have to stop letting them control you. - Dan Millman*

04-06-2012, 05:41 PM	#8
chiropteran Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New Zealand Posts: 945	Re: Odd Glass of Wine during Withdrawal Yup, I'm mid-wean, have the very occasional glass of wine when I'm out to tea with people, maybe once a month, and never more than a glass. It hasn't seemed to do me any harm so far __________________ '83-90: Various tricyclics, anti-psychotics, tranqs. '90-02: Prozac - poopout 2002 '02-10: Paroxetine 40, 60, 80mg. ENOUGH! Jun10-Feb11: Slow taper 80-60mg, 5-12% Feb-Jul11: 60-50, 5% 6wkly Jul11-Mar12: 50-20, 10% 6wkly Hold at 20 for winter... Aug-Dec12: 18, 16.2, 14.6, 13.1, 10.6 (error), 9.5 Jan-Apr13: 8.6, 7.7, 6.9, 6.2, 5.6 1 May13: 5.0 !!!!!

04-10-2012, 11:22 AM	#9
miranda1 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 60	Re: Odd Glass of Wine during Withdrawal well i've kept to my normal ways and all seems great! so i think keeping it normal works for me, but i'm sure excessive drinking would put a spin on my moods __________________ Paxil 20mg from 2000 to Jan 2012 Used for panic attacks Weaned to 15mg Jan.25/2012 down to 12.5 Feb.3/2011 as i'm feeling great down to 10 Feb.10/2011 Down to 7.5 Feb 19 down to 3.25 March 11th!!! PAXIL FREE Since March 16,2011 Started Counselling Jan. 31st First panic attack paxil free April 14th took 15mg paxil April16th as i just can't stand nervousness started back at 10 April 17th where things were good

04-20-2012, 05:30 PM	#10
wanting2quit Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA Posts: 658	Re: Odd Glass of Wine during Withdrawal If I have a glass, I'm okay. I have found though that if I have more than one glass, even a glass and a half, it can spin me into a terrible panic attack and I'll be up the whole night. I'm weaning off Lexapro though, not Paxil, so I'm not sure if that makes a difference. __________________ Pax 02. Cold turkey 03. Back on 10 mg. in 3rd trimester. Weaned to 5 mg. on 6/06, then 2.5 mg. on 9/06. Last Dose 10/06. Lex 10 mg. on 7/07 for PP anxiety. April 09 weaned 10-5. May, weaned from 5-0. 9/09 back on 10 mg. January 2012, weaned to 5 mg. 5/19/12, liquid generic Lex at 4.5 ml 6/20, 4 ml 10/22, 3.8 ml 1/15, 3.4 *Life remains the same until the pain of remaining the same becomes greater than the pain of change.* Pray... hope... don't worry. - Padre Pio

04-21-2012, 12:14 AM	#11
calamityjane Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: US Posts: 12	Re: Odd Glass of Wine during Withdrawal I have treated myself to drinks a few times, and it did not worsen my withdrawal at all- was even calming. I'm not advising anyone to drink, though; just relating my own experience. Please make your decision carefully and with your doctor's knowledge first. __________________ Long story. On and off of practically every psych drug in the book from 1999-2008, with gaps of a few years in between each disaster (2.5 years or so on pills in total). Permanently free of psych drugs March 2008. Neurological adverse reaction to Toprol XL as of late Feb. 2012 after only 1mo. on and off this drug, a blood-pressure drug that I never even needed in the first place. Still withdrawing; very little improvement. Scared out of my mind of permanent damage.

04-21-2012, 12:29 AM	#12
obliviousjo Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 407	Re: Odd Glass of Wine during Withdrawal I've been off effexor for like two and a half months and I do go out and have a few sometimes...On the nights I've had more than two to three, I have noticed that the next day I get those brain zaps again..usually not much of an issue anymore...So I say just be aware of it but I agree that it nice to be able to have a nice glass or two of wine...I had three vodka and cranberry last night, woke up feeling amazing...I gave up cocktails for yrs bc I was raising my kids but I'm now fully looking foreward to being a social drinker again __________________ Ambian 2001 -Feb 20th 2012 Various AD's 2002-2005 (zoloft) (Lexapro) switched to cymbalta in 2005 Provigil and similar one 2006-2008 Lyrica 2007- 2010 ? Cymbalta 60 mg. 2005-2011 75 mg.Effexor (Venlafaxine) march 2011 Remeron march 2011-jan 2012 ct off Last Effexor ( venlafaxine) feb 10 2012 Had to CT after very short wean....Severely allergic to it

04-29-2012, 05:21 AM	#13
JeffroUK Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 57	Re: Odd Glass of Wine during Withdrawal Its all about the moderation! Since starting my taper off 20mg alcohol is having such a strong effect on me!! as such so are the hangovers . One beer or wine is fine I reckon. Its all about the individual but anymore than 2-3 beers and its making me feel awful at the moment!! __________________ March 2012 week 1 - 18mg March 2012 week 2 - 16mg March 2012 week 3 - 12mg March 2012 week 4 - 12mg June 2012 - 12mg felt better July 2012 - 11.4mg (5%) August 2012 - 10.8mg Sept 2012 - Down too 10mg Half way there!!! Jan 2013 - Broke up with my GF - STRONG fear and anx - Back to 20mg Feb 2013 - Discovered all my anx stems from unresolved Abandonment issues. March 2013 - Wishing I didnt reinstate as it didnt really help!

07-28-2012, 11:54 PM	#14
Aurelius Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 41	Re: Odd Glass of Wine during Withdrawal When I was in the lions den of withdrawal stages, I didn't touch a drop of alcohol. That probably lasted about 3 months. After things got better, I experimented with alcohol, but quickly found out that I had to be careful. These days, it's best for me to have an occasional drink or two, but nothing more than that. I'm currently in month 6 of withdrawal. But to be honest, I'm ok with not drinking at all. I actually craved alcohol more while I was on meds, than anytime before or after them. So I really don't miss it very much. Coffee is another story. I've ultra sensitive to coffee, now. But I did have a love for coffee. :-( If I drink even a cup, now, it triggers my withdrawals for the entire day. No fun at all. Can't even drink half-caf. Only decaff (and I sometimes have to be careful with that). So goodbye, caffeinated coffee. __________________ 1999-2005 10mg Paxil 2006-2008 30mg Paxil daily 2008-11/31/11 30mg Paxil every 2-3 days 12/1/11-12/10/11 10mg both Paxil/ Viibryd daily 12/11/11-12/24/11 20mg Viibryd daily 12/25/11 - 01/14/12 30mg Viibryd daily (bad reaction) SSRI free, since January 15th, 2012.

07-29-2012, 02:53 PM	#15
cheri Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 95	Re: Odd Glass of Wine during Withdrawal I haven't altered my drinking any since my taper. I have always went through stages where I want to drink and others where I don't want to at all. This summer I've drank maybe a total of three times. Twice was more then one drink. I haven't noticed a difference. I'm in a wedding in a couple of weeks so I will be drinking more then one that night. __________________ Started Paxil: mid 2000 postpardum depression. Max dose: 30mg This round of quitting the evil drug April 2012: April- 2012- 30mg May- 22.5mg June- 15mg July- 7.5mg August 16- 6mg October 21- 5.9mg November 12- 5.8mg December 26- 5.7mg February 19- 5.5mg Withdrawal symptoms I have experienced: (not now) 1. bad moods/anger (worst symptom) 2. vertigo 3. crazy dreams 4. achy arms 5. zaps and head/hair pain (especially while brushing my hair) 6. uncontrollable jerks (minor)

07-29-2012, 05:05 PM	#16
Bilo76 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Holland Posts: 1,641	Re: Odd Glass of Wine during Withdrawal I wouldnt do it. Alcohol is a drug and it brings no good. And why should you provoke it? __________________ Bilo aka Remco 14 years on Paxil 20 mg cause of a bad anxiety disorder (social anxiety, agoraphobia) 2011 Oct 16th: Cold turkey stop Paxil cause of poopout and switch to lexapro 15 mg. Hell started. Tapered lexapro. Tapered oxazepam. Med-free since may 18th 2012 "....We should take care not to make the intellect our god; it has, of course, powerful muscles, but no personality. It can not command, only serve..." Albert Einstein.

07-29-2012, 08:40 PM	#17
Timinjapan Join Date: May 2012 Location: Kyoto Posts: 1,416	Re: Odd Glass of Wine during Withdrawal I did it! It worked for me. After two weeks alcohol free and with only one previous "good mood" day the whole time, I drank a can of good beer last night and to my surprise I woke up feeling better this morning. These things depend on so many factors that it is hard to decide for ourselves what's best to do, let alone for other people. __________________ Paxil 2011 11/1 10mg 2012 2/15 8mg 3/10 7mg 4/8 6mg 4/27 5mg 6/5 4.5mg 7/5 4.1mg 8/15 3.8mg 9/8 3.5mg 10/5 3.3mg 11/5 3.1mg 12/1 2.9mg 2013 1/1 2.6mg 2/11 2.4mg 3/1 2.2mg 3/15 2.0mg 4/1 1.8mg 4/11 1.7mg 4/21 1.6mg 5/1 1.5mg 5/11 1.4mg 5/21 1.3mg Valium 2012 2/1 2mg 5/1 1mg 8/15 0.8mg 11/15 0.75mg 2013 1/1 0.67 mg 3/5 0.5mg 5/21 0.4mg "Illness is a monastery with its own rules, asceticism, silence, and inspiration." — Albert Camus

08-21-2012, 08:49 AM	#18
Mantaray Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 76	Re: Odd Glass of Wine during Withdrawal Beer had not bothered me until last week. I had 2 and came home and cried like a baby and was full of anxiety. Be careful. I had a couple beers this weekend with no harm done. __________________ Dec 2000 Paxil 20 MG for panic attacks 4 or 5 failed quits until December 2010 Poopout-Up to 30mg cross taper to zoloft 200mg March 2011 down to 100mg April 2011 cross taper to lexapro 10MG May 2011 August 2011 lexapro 7.5mg September 2011 lexapro 5mg February 2012 started taper, .5 mg every 3 weeks 05/18/12-06/07/12 2.5mg 06/07/12-06/30/12 2.0mg 06/30/12-07/10/12 1.5mg 07/10/12-08/08/2012 1.0mg 08/08/2012-08/19/2012 .5mg 8/20/2012 0 lexapro 15 mg of remeron to go

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