Spent 8 hrs today in the ER.......

kylelost · 11-07-2011, 05:59 PM

DON'T READ THIS POST IF YOU ARE SQUIMSH!!

Yesterday I began to have stomach pains at the top of my stomach that progressively got worse by early morning. Pain began to radiate from the top down to the lower portion of my stomach across my back. I started having diarraha, my stools were white, I did not have any nausea to speak of Needless to say I was up most of the night, early this morning I called my ex-boyfriend who is a nurse, who suggested I go to the ER as my symptoms were related to my bile duct (In March of 2009 I had 3 stones removed from my bile duct).

I had blood work done which was normal, an ultra sound which showed my gallbladder or bile duct had no stones, but showed "sludge". I then had a Hepatobiliary Scintigraphy with Cholecystokinin injection (nuclear test which shows if the gall bladder is actively moving bile), which was normal. I explained my pain to the surgeon as "like the alien movie back in the 70's where the creature came out of the guys stomach". I did get some relief from tylenol. They prescribed me norco (pain medicine - I will not have that filled) and nexium. I am suppose to follow-up with the surgeon in 2 days.

I have lost 30 lbs since February as I no longer eat for a family of four and have tried to eat a balanced diet lower in fat. Should I follow-up with the surgeon or chalk it up as paxil related?

Kylelost

aka Suzanne

Xpaxilslave · 11-07-2011, 06:16 PM

I am so sorry you are going through this. I would follow up with the surgeon so you know one way or the other. Please let me know what you decide and how you make out. I will be thinking of you.

kylelost · 11-07-2011, 06:19 PM

Xpaxilslave - Thanks! On a happier note mentally I am doing great!!

Kylelost

aka Suzanne

scotty · 11-07-2011, 06:20 PM

Absolutely follow with the surgeon. A gallbladder filled with sludge can be a problem that needs to be followed.

miriza · 11-07-2011, 06:24 PM

Suzanne,
not sure what to recommend but if you've had issues with your bile duct before, then it is probably not related to withdrawal. I would get multiple opinions from surgeons before going that route...and also inquire whether it can wait until after you are done with witdrawal. Sorry you are having to deal with this while also on wd.

I myself have at least two hernias in the stomach area from my most recent humongous pregnancy belly...I have read that it is usually ok to leave them as is but in some cases may require surgery if there is potential for bowel strangulation. I am totally ignoring them since they do not bother me much except for the rare feeling of bugs crawling over my belly (psychosis maybe? LOL! Not really!). I just could not deal with potential surgery and withdrawal right now...just thinking of having to get anesthesia and pain meds right now really creeps me out.

Anyway, if your condition is not serious I would postpone any surgery...but please get more than one opinion...for some reason I do not trust doctors anymore.

God Bless!

kylelost · 11-07-2011, 06:47 PM

Scotty and Mirza - Thanks!!

Suzanne

Brassmonkey · 11-07-2011, 07:09 PM

Kyle--
PLEASE get it checked out to rule out any physical problems. Many years ago I had severe abdominal pain, the Dr's said I needed to have my gaulbladder removed but the xrays and all came back nagetive, so I put it off. Several months later when I could not bare the pain I had a three pound ganggrean (sp.) gaul bladder removed which through complications needed two more surgeries, three hospitalizations and five years to recover from. I"m not saying that this is your problem too, but have it checked out so you know for sure.

I got all my fingers and toes crossed for ya.

TryingtoGetWell · 11-07-2011, 08:45 PM

So sorry you're having these difficulties (but glad the other things are going so well).

Do keep monitoring this problem, even if you don't choose to take painkillers they prescribe etc. And let us know how you're doing! My very best to you!

lotusflower · 11-08-2011, 12:28 AM

Suzanne,

Stuff like this is hard but w/d added to the mix makes everything seem worse (at least to me)....so I'm inspired by your positive mental state. Thinking of you and sending hugs, Joanne

kylelost · 11-21-2011, 05:19 PM

I saw my Gastro Doctor today who recommended I have my gallbadder removed, I've had problems dating back to 1996. I have an appointment next week with a surgeon. My only question, will General Ansthesia (sp?) wreck havoc on my tapering schedule and cause more withdrawal symptoms??

On a side note, while filling out forms at the Doctors office, I had to write down all my current medications, current dosage, and reason you were taking the drug. For Paxil, I wrote - STUPIDITY!!

Yes, my sense of humor is returning.....

Suzanne

Gracings · 11-21-2011, 07:42 PM

I just now read about the trouble that you've been having! Glad you are having the gall bladder removed. I wish you a wonderful recovery. And I LOVE your sense of humor!

Brassmonkey · 11-22-2011, 11:35 AM

Suzanne-- You wil feel so much better once the gaul bladder is taken out. You'll have to pay attention to your diet for a while after, but if your like me you will be able to eat almost anything pretty soon. You should be able to talk to the anitheseologist (sp.) before hand and tell him/her about the paxil, no garentee that they will understand, but it will raise the question.

I hope all goes smoothly for you.

miriza · 11-22-2011, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylelost

I saw my Gastro Doctor today who recommended I have my gallbadder removed, I've had problems dating back to 1996. I have an appointment next week with a surgeon. My only question, will General Ansthesia (sp?) wreck havoc on my tapering schedule and cause more withdrawal symptoms??

On a side note, while filling out forms at the Doctors office, I had to write down all my current medications, current dosage, and reason you were taking the drug. For Paxil, I wrote - STUPIDITY!!

Yes, my sense of humor is returning.....

Suzanne

Best of luck on your surgery! Take it easy and find out about the anesthesia first!

scotty · 11-22-2011, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylelost

I saw my Gastro Doctor today who recommended I have my gallbadder removed, I've had problems dating back to 1996. I have an appointment next week with a surgeon. My only question, will General Ansthesia (sp?) wreck havoc on my tapering schedule and cause more withdrawal symptoms??

On a side note, while filling out forms at the Doctors office, I had to write down all my current medications, current dosage, and reason you were taking the drug. For Paxil, I wrote - STUPIDITY!!

Yes, my sense of humor is returning.....

Suzanne

Love that! Anesthesia shouldn't be a problem. yeah, get rid of that nasty gallbladder!

LinLou · 06-17-2012, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylelost

I saw my Gastro Doctor today who recommended I have my gallbadder removed, I've had problems dating back to 1996. I have an appointment next week with a surgeon. My only question, will General Ansthesia (sp?) wreck havoc on my tapering schedule and cause more withdrawal symptoms??

On a side note, while filling out forms at the Doctors office, I had to write down all my current medications, current dosage, and reason you were taking the drug. For Paxil, I wrote - STUPIDITY!!

Yes, my sense of humor is returning.....

Suzanne

Did you ever have your gallbladder removed? I'm about to lose mine. It will be my first surgery and I'm scared to death about it.

Brassmonkey · 06-17-2012, 07:55 PM

Hi Lo--You might not get an answer fro Suzanne, she has been very quiet lately. I had my gaulbladded out many years ago and they have been making great strides in the surgery since then, it is even done as outpatient a lot of times now. It is nothing to be scared of. It will knock the stuffing out of you for a while, but plenty of rest will take care of that. It should go fine. Keep us updated, so we can support.

((((((((((((((((supportive HUGS)))))))))))))))))))

LinLou · 06-17-2012, 08:13 PM

Thanks Brassmonkey. I think the thing that terrifies me most is the thought of ever feeling like I felt during those hellacious withdrawal years. I cannot go back there. I am scared of being knocked back into withdrawal with all the anesthesia and drugs used....all the progress I've made being undone.

But, I also cannot keep living with the feeling of having a football shoved under my right ribs anymore.

Thanks

11-07-2011, 05:59 PM	#1
kylelost Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 919	Spent 8 hrs today in the ER....... DON'T READ THIS POST IF YOU ARE SQUIMSH!! Yesterday I began to have stomach pains at the top of my stomach that progressively got worse by early morning. Pain began to radiate from the top down to the lower portion of my stomach across my back. I started having diarraha, my stools were white, I did not have any nausea to speak of Needless to say I was up most of the night, early this morning I called my ex-boyfriend who is a nurse, who suggested I go to the ER as my symptoms were related to my bile duct (In March of 2009 I had 3 stones removed from my bile duct). I had blood work done which was normal, an ultra sound which showed my gallbladder or bile duct had no stones, but showed "sludge". I then had a Hepatobiliary Scintigraphy with Cholecystokinin injection (nuclear test which shows if the gall bladder is actively moving bile), which was normal. I explained my pain to the surgeon as "like the alien movie back in the 70's where the creature came out of the guys stomach". I did get some relief from tylenol. They prescribed me norco (pain medicine - I will not have that filled) and nexium. I am suppose to follow-up with the surgeon in 2 days. I have lost 30 lbs since February as I no longer eat for a family of four and have tried to eat a balanced diet lower in fat. Should I follow-up with the surgeon or chalk it up as paxil related? Kylelost aka Suzanne __________________ Paxil 20 mg. - April 2001 Began taper - Feb. 3, 2011 15 mgs - 2 wks. 10 mgs - 2 wks. 5 mgs - 3-1-10 2.5 mgs - 4-6-11 5 mgs. - 5-8-11 5mgs. - liquid paxil 6-10-11 4 mgs - 6-24-11 4.5 mgs - 7-11-11 4 mgs - 7-29-11 3.6 mgs - 8-19-11 3.0 - 9-11-11 2.5 - 10-6-11 2.0 - 11-10-11 1.5 - 12-9-11 1.25 - 2-10-12 1.0 - 3-9-12 PAXIL FREE 3-12-12 Re-instated 3-15-12 10 mgs. "If you are casting a play in hell don't expect Angels to show up as the actors"

11-07-2011, 06:16 PM	#2
Xpaxilslave Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: PA Posts: 297	Re: Spent 8 hrs today in the ER....... I am so sorry you are going through this. I would follow up with the surgeon so you know one way or the other. Please let me know what you decide and how you make out. I will be thinking of you.

11-07-2011, 06:19 PM	#3
kylelost Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 919	Re: Spent 8 hrs today in the ER....... Xpaxilslave - Thanks! On a happier note mentally I am doing great!! Kylelost aka Suzanne __________________ Paxil 20 mg. - April 2001 Began taper - Feb. 3, 2011 15 mgs - 2 wks. 10 mgs - 2 wks. 5 mgs - 3-1-10 2.5 mgs - 4-6-11 5 mgs. - 5-8-11 5mgs. - liquid paxil 6-10-11 4 mgs - 6-24-11 4.5 mgs - 7-11-11 4 mgs - 7-29-11 3.6 mgs - 8-19-11 3.0 - 9-11-11 2.5 - 10-6-11 2.0 - 11-10-11 1.5 - 12-9-11 1.25 - 2-10-12 1.0 - 3-9-12 PAXIL FREE 3-12-12 Re-instated 3-15-12 10 mgs. "If you are casting a play in hell don't expect Angels to show up as the actors"

11-07-2011, 06:20 PM	#4
scotty Administrator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: new jersey Posts: 47,009	Re: Spent 8 hrs today in the ER....... Absolutely follow with the surgeon. A gallbladder filled with sludge can be a problem that needs to be followed. __________________ AKA Laurie "Faith is taking the first step even when you don't see the whole staircase." MLK

11-07-2011, 06:24 PM	#5
miriza Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,566	Re: Spent 8 hrs today in the ER....... Suzanne, not sure what to recommend but if you've had issues with your bile duct before, then it is probably not related to withdrawal. I would get multiple opinions from surgeons before going that route...and also inquire whether it can wait until after you are done with witdrawal. Sorry you are having to deal with this while also on wd. I myself have at least two hernias in the stomach area from my most recent humongous pregnancy belly...I have read that it is usually ok to leave them as is but in some cases may require surgery if there is potential for bowel strangulation. I am totally ignoring them since they do not bother me much except for the rare feeling of bugs crawling over my belly (psychosis maybe? LOL! Not really!). I just could not deal with potential surgery and withdrawal right now...just thinking of having to get anesthesia and pain meds right now really creeps me out. Anyway, if your condition is not serious I would postpone any surgery...but please get more than one opinion...for some reason I do not trust doctors anymore. God Bless! __________________ Poly-drugged since May 2011 (14 meds in 4 months-paradox. reactions to all). From mild anxiety to almost psychosis on meds. IT IS THE MEDS, NOT ME! Elavil: 75 mg -> 37.5 (12d) Imipramine: 37.5 mg -> 0 (1 mo,10/08/11): akathisia! 5 mg -> 0 (1 mo,11/29/11) Now in w/d hell and missing my old self. Please go to http://www.askapatient.com and leave a review of your med(s) and w/d experience.

11-07-2011, 06:47 PM	#6
kylelost Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 919	Re: Spent 8 hrs today in the ER....... Scotty and Mirza - Thanks!! Suzanne __________________ Paxil 20 mg. - April 2001 Began taper - Feb. 3, 2011 15 mgs - 2 wks. 10 mgs - 2 wks. 5 mgs - 3-1-10 2.5 mgs - 4-6-11 5 mgs. - 5-8-11 5mgs. - liquid paxil 6-10-11 4 mgs - 6-24-11 4.5 mgs - 7-11-11 4 mgs - 7-29-11 3.6 mgs - 8-19-11 3.0 - 9-11-11 2.5 - 10-6-11 2.0 - 11-10-11 1.5 - 12-9-11 1.25 - 2-10-12 1.0 - 3-9-12 PAXIL FREE 3-12-12 Re-instated 3-15-12 10 mgs. "If you are casting a play in hell don't expect Angels to show up as the actors"

11-07-2011, 07:09 PM	#7
Brassmonkey Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: California Posts: 2,045	Re: Spent 8 hrs today in the ER....... Kyle-- PLEASE get it checked out to rule out any physical problems. Many years ago I had severe abdominal pain, the Dr's said I needed to have my gaulbladder removed but the xrays and all came back nagetive, so I put it off. Several months later when I could not bare the pain I had a three pound ganggrean (sp.) gaul bladder removed which through complications needed two more surgeries, three hospitalizations and five years to recover from. I"m not saying that this is your problem too, but have it checked out so you know for sure. I got all my fingers and toes crossed for ya. __________________ AKA Tom 1994 started 20mg Paxil 1999 updosed to 30mg 2005 updosed to 40mg 2010 started not to work very well 09/2011 CTed from 15oz vodka a night 09/2011 dropped to 36mg 06/2012 dropped to 19mg (past halfway point) 08/2012 dropped to 17.1mg 09/2012 dropped to 15.2mg 11/2012 dropped to 13.8mg 12/2012 dropped to 12.4mg 01/2013 dropped to 11.1mg 03/2013 dropped to 10.0mg

11-07-2011, 08:45 PM	#8
TryingtoGetWell Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 8,680	Re: Spent 8 hrs today in the ER....... So sorry you're having these difficulties (but glad the other things are going so well). Do keep monitoring this problem, even if you don't choose to take painkillers they prescribe etc. And let us know how you're doing! My very best to you! __________________ 5/93 - Started paxil after 6 years sensory distortions from benzo WD/low-dose reinst.+chronic medical problems/pain - 20 mg/day; yrs later 15 mg 3/30/06 - 20 mg 4/21/06 - 15 mg 4/27/06 - 10 mg 5/17/06 - 5 mg (none 5/20) 5/21-24/06 - 2.5 mg (5/22 - none) 5/25/06 - d/c’d paroxetine Felt better than in years, then gradual WD symptoms 6/17/06 - Bolted awake in blind terror, started E-ticket ride to hell 2010 - Leaving hell for balmier climate! (Still on my pre-paxil 0.5 mg clonazepam)

11-08-2011, 12:28 AM	#9
lotusflower Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,202	Re: Spent 8 hrs today in the ER....... Suzanne, Stuff like this is hard but w/d added to the mix makes everything seem worse (at least to me)....so I'm inspired by your positive mental state. Thinking of you and sending hugs, Joanne __________________ AKA Joanne 11/25/10 50 mg. zoloft 12/30 45 1/19/11 40.5 2/6 36.5 3/7 32.8 3/29 29.5 4/20 25 5/28 22.5 6/16 20.2 7/7 18.2 7/28 16.4 8/18 14.7 9/8 13.0 9/23 12.5 10/10 11.2 11/6 10.6 11/9 11.2 12/7 10.5 1/1/12 10 2/1 9.5 3/1 9 3/23 8.5 4/30 8 5/29 7.5 6/26 7 7/31 6.5 8/22 6 9/15 5.5 10/20 5 12/17 4.8 (made my own liquid) 12/26 4.5 1/28 4.1 2/4 4.0 February 9, 2013 last sliver zoloft 4.0mg. February 10, 2013- 0 mg. zoloft

11-21-2011, 05:19 PM	#10
kylelost Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 919	Re: Spent 8 hrs today in the ER.......Update I saw my Gastro Doctor today who recommended I have my gallbadder removed, I've had problems dating back to 1996. I have an appointment next week with a surgeon. My only question, will General Ansthesia (sp?) wreck havoc on my tapering schedule and cause more withdrawal symptoms?? On a side note, while filling out forms at the Doctors office, I had to write down all my current medications, current dosage, and reason you were taking the drug. For Paxil, I wrote - STUPIDITY!! Yes, my sense of humor is returning..... Suzanne __________________ Paxil 20 mg. - April 2001 Began taper - Feb. 3, 2011 15 mgs - 2 wks. 10 mgs - 2 wks. 5 mgs - 3-1-10 2.5 mgs - 4-6-11 5 mgs. - 5-8-11 5mgs. - liquid paxil 6-10-11 4 mgs - 6-24-11 4.5 mgs - 7-11-11 4 mgs - 7-29-11 3.6 mgs - 8-19-11 3.0 - 9-11-11 2.5 - 10-6-11 2.0 - 11-10-11 1.5 - 12-9-11 1.25 - 2-10-12 1.0 - 3-9-12 PAXIL FREE 3-12-12 Re-instated 3-15-12 10 mgs. "If you are casting a play in hell don't expect Angels to show up as the actors"

11-21-2011, 07:42 PM	#11
Gracings Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 282	Re: Spent 8 hrs today in the ER....... I just now read about the trouble that you've been having! Glad you are having the gall bladder removed. I wish you a wonderful recovery. And I LOVE your sense of humor! __________________ 05/31/11 Last day 10 mg. Lexapro 06/01/11 9 mg 06/07/11 9ml of liquid Lexapro 06/08/11 8.8 06/10/11 8.0 06/25/11 7.2 7/11/11 6.5 7/25/11 5.9 8/08/11 5.3 8/22/11 4.8 9/07/11 4.4 10/03/11 4.0 11/06/11 3.6 - 03/12/12 1.8 04/02/12 1.8 04/23/12 1.6 situational 05/14/12 1.4 06/12/12 1.2 07/03/12 1.0 08/04/12 0.8 08/25/12 0.6 09/21/12.0.0!!

11-22-2011, 11:35 AM	#12
Brassmonkey Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: California Posts: 2,045	Re: Spent 8 hrs today in the ER....... Suzanne-- You wil feel so much better once the gaul bladder is taken out. You'll have to pay attention to your diet for a while after, but if your like me you will be able to eat almost anything pretty soon. You should be able to talk to the anitheseologist (sp.) before hand and tell him/her about the paxil, no garentee that they will understand, but it will raise the question. I hope all goes smoothly for you. __________________ AKA Tom 1994 started 20mg Paxil 1999 updosed to 30mg 2005 updosed to 40mg 2010 started not to work very well 09/2011 CTed from 15oz vodka a night 09/2011 dropped to 36mg 06/2012 dropped to 19mg (past halfway point) 08/2012 dropped to 17.1mg 09/2012 dropped to 15.2mg 11/2012 dropped to 13.8mg 12/2012 dropped to 12.4mg 01/2013 dropped to 11.1mg 03/2013 dropped to 10.0mg

06-17-2012, 07:55 PM	#16
Brassmonkey Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: California Posts: 2,045	Re: Spent 8 hrs today in the ER....... Hi Lo--You might not get an answer fro Suzanne, she has been very quiet lately. I had my gaulbladded out many years ago and they have been making great strides in the surgery since then, it is even done as outpatient a lot of times now. It is nothing to be scared of. It will knock the stuffing out of you for a while, but plenty of rest will take care of that. It should go fine. Keep us updated, so we can support. ((((((((((((((((supportive HUGS))))))))))))))))))) __________________ AKA Tom 1994 started 20mg Paxil 1999 updosed to 30mg 2005 updosed to 40mg 2010 started not to work very well 09/2011 CTed from 15oz vodka a night 09/2011 dropped to 36mg 06/2012 dropped to 19mg (past halfway point) 08/2012 dropped to 17.1mg 09/2012 dropped to 15.2mg 11/2012 dropped to 13.8mg 12/2012 dropped to 12.4mg 01/2013 dropped to 11.1mg 03/2013 dropped to 10.0mg

06-17-2012, 08:13 PM	#17
LinLou Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,548	Re: Spent 8 hrs today in the ER....... Thanks Brassmonkey. I think the thing that terrifies me most is the thought of ever feeling like I felt during those hellacious withdrawal years. I cannot go back there. I am scared of being knocked back into withdrawal with all the anesthesia and drugs used....all the progress I've made being undone. But, I also cannot keep living with the feeling of having a football shoved under my right ribs anymore. Thanks __________________ Drug free 5 years

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