Therapy, not CBT

genevieve · 10-28-2004, 09:35 AM

Hi everyone!
Hope you are all doing well.
For myself, things are not too bad... I have taken a little break from work (in fact, I think I was trying too much : work, courses at university, friends, writing... I tried to get all my "old life" back at the same time) so I am now having a little break for some weeks... and this morning I am feeling this "floating anxiety feeling" and it is not funny!!! ARG!!!!!! I guess I have not sleep enough the last days... I am so sensitive ;-)
I was wondering... ok, everybody talks about CBT but there are many other forms of therapy out there. Do any of you have a good experience about it??? what about psychoanalysis? humanist approaches? Transactionnal analysis? talk therapy??????

all answers are welcome!!!
(personnally, I have not experienced any other forms of therapy but I have found great ideas in books by Freud, Carl Rogers, Maslow, etc. In my opinion, CBT is good to TREAT but to explain the problem and to go more "deep down" you have to get another form of psychology because CBT is really functionnalistic)
... I hope I make sense!!!!

elisa · 10-28-2004, 12:00 PM

Hi Gen,

Good for you that you took some time off work.

Not having enough sleep can create additional anxiety. I does for me.

As far as therapies are concerned, I tried several of them.

Anxiety Management. Was given in hospital setting and it helped some It's about 3-4 months, once a week. There is homework involved.

CBT. Attended that. If focuses on the here and now. One learns how to deal with negative thoughts and patterns that come up during the day. It's actually a "reality" testing of yourself. Given in outpatient hospital setting and takes about 3-4 months, once a week. LOTS of homework. I can recommend it strongly if you have NO past issues to deal with. I felt though and it was confirmed by another client, that it was OUR FAULT that we were this way.

Talk therapy. With my psychiatrist. Everything is discussed, past, present and the future. I have an weekly appointment with her for 45 minutes and have been having that since 1998. Only in the past couple of years did I benefit, because I was simply too depressed and the brain fog and bad memory didn't help!!! This is the one therapy that is really helping me, because I had to deal with a lot of PAST issues. My doc is not giving any advise though, she lets me do the work

She even believes in dreams and their meaning. This all helped me to connect to a lot of things together and got to learn where I come from.....so to speak.

Gen - I hope my experiences with these therapies help you determine which ones would benefit you the most. Sorry, I don't know about the others you mentioned.

MizzT · 10-28-2004, 12:13 PM

Hi Gen
the methods i have found most useful incorporate pieces of talk therapy as well as tapping energy meridians to help activate the body's response to the emotional issue.
TBM (Total Body Modification) EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) and NMT (Neuromodulation Technique) are 3 forms i have used.
web sites to find info and practitioners in your area are:
http://www.tbmseminars.com
Http://www.emofree.com
http://www.neuromodulationtechnique.com

I find these methods easy to do as well as incredibly, miraculously fast and effective in actually neutralizing the extreme emotional response to situational depression/anxiety. it absolutely blew me away how effective it was.

10-28-2004, 09:35 AM	#1
genevieve Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: montréal, canada Posts: 1,441	Therapy, not CBT Hi everyone! Hope you are all doing well. For myself, things are not too bad... I have taken a little break from work (in fact, I think I was trying too much : work, courses at university, friends, writing... I tried to get all my "old life" back at the same time) so I am now having a little break for some weeks... and this morning I am feeling this "floating anxiety feeling" and it is not funny!!! ARG!!!!!! I guess I have not sleep enough the last days... I am so sensitive ;-) I was wondering... ok, everybody talks about CBT but there are many other forms of therapy out there. Do any of you have a good experience about it??? what about psychoanalysis? humanist approaches? Transactionnal analysis? talk therapy?????? all answers are welcome!!! (personnally, I have not experienced any other forms of therapy but I have found great ideas in books by Freud, Carl Rogers, Maslow, etc. In my opinion, CBT is good to TREAT but to explain the problem and to go more "deep down" you have to get another form of psychology because CBT is really functionnalistic) ... I hope I make sense!!!! __________________ paxil free since july 2003 Still dealing with agoraphobia and anxiety

10-28-2004, 12:00 PM	#2
elisa Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,473	Hi Gen, Good for you that you took some time off work. Not having enough sleep can create additional anxiety. I does for me. As far as therapies are concerned, I tried several of them. Anxiety Management. Was given in hospital setting and it helped some It's about 3-4 months, once a week. There is homework involved. CBT. Attended that. If focuses on the here and now. One learns how to deal with negative thoughts and patterns that come up during the day. It's actually a "reality" testing of yourself. Given in outpatient hospital setting and takes about 3-4 months, once a week. LOTS of homework. I can recommend it strongly if you have NO past issues to deal with. I felt though and it was confirmed by another client, that it was OUR FAULT that we were this way. Talk therapy. With my psychiatrist. Everything is discussed, past, present and the future. I have an weekly appointment with her for 45 minutes and have been having that since 1998. Only in the past couple of years did I benefit, because I was simply too depressed and the brain fog and bad memory didn't help!!! This is the one therapy that is really helping me, because I had to deal with a lot of PAST issues. My doc is not giving any advise though, she lets me do the work She even believes in dreams and their meaning. This all helped me to connect to a lot of things together and got to learn where I come from.....so to speak. Gen - I hope my experiences with these therapies help you determine which ones would benefit you the most. Sorry, I don't know about the others you mentioned. __________________ On A/D's since 1995, switching due to side-effects on 30 different brands of TCA's, SSRI's, SNRI's, Antipsychotics, Benzo's & Imovane. 6 ECT's. Tapering from 225 mg Effexor XR May 17, 2004. (Equiv. to 60 mg Paxil) Last taper Effexor XR Jan 17, 2006 down to ZERO. Currently protracted withdrawal. Sept 2006: 25 mg Doxepin. March 13/09: 10 mg Desipramine

10-28-2004, 12:13 PM	#3
MizzT Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NM Posts: 6,866	Hi Gen the methods i have found most useful incorporate pieces of talk therapy as well as tapping energy meridians to help activate the body's response to the emotional issue. TBM (Total Body Modification) EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) and NMT (Neuromodulation Technique) are 3 forms i have used. web sites to find info and practitioners in your area are: http://www.tbmseminars.com Http://www.emofree.com http://www.neuromodulationtechnique.com I find these methods easy to do as well as incredibly, miraculously fast and effective in actually neutralizing the extreme emotional response to situational depression/anxiety. it absolutely blew me away how effective it was.

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