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Old 07-17-2012, 05:13 PM   #26
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Re: I sometimes wish we had a chat room

alot of people think ssri help them because of the placebo effect..
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Old 07-17-2012, 05:42 PM   #27
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alot of people think ssri help them because of the placebo effect..
I dont believe that.
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Old 07-18-2012, 06:12 AM   #28
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I dont believe that.
You should. Most trials have shown that placebo is almost as effective as an actual SSRI in treating anxiety and depression. In fact, most drug companies have had to run many trials in order to come up with results that show the product to be more effective than placebo in a statistically significant way.
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Old 07-18-2012, 03:00 PM   #29
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Re: I sometimes wish we had a chat room

I wonder if those people are the ones whose brains didn't really need the drugs in the first place? By that I mean those who were prescribed them for situational anxiety or depression and not true mental illness.
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Old 07-18-2012, 04:42 PM   #30
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I've never had this problem before in my entire life. But, then again, I have also never had suicidal ideation, lethargy so bad you can barely get out of bed, brain fog, confusion, memory loss, dizziness, loss of sense of self, deep depression this bad, mood swings that can change as fast as you flip a lightswitch, etc etc. Guess it's part of my "withdrawal package."
Jason any improvement in your brain fog, memory and confusion?
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Old 07-18-2012, 04:45 PM   #31
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Jason any improvement in your brain fog, memory and confusion?
Forget it I realized you just answered this in another post. I am sooo fried it's unreal.
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Forget it I realized you just answered this in another post. I am sooo fried it's unreal.
LOL it's OK, FredJ. I read your question if there's been any improvement and I thought, "wait a minute, didn't I tell him this yesterday?" - so see, there has been some improvement, albeit small.
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Old 07-18-2012, 05:03 PM   #33
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When did you notice it began to improve a bit?
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Old 07-18-2012, 05:41 PM   #34
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I think in the last couple weeks it has not been as bad. But today, for example, I left work for a bit and don't remember all the details of what I did. I know where I went, but as far as visual memory of the events, I don't recall. I also just looked down to take my badge off my pants, but see that ive already taken it off.
I tend to remember more important things over less important ones. This, I would say in my own opinion, is just normal in human memory anyway. So some of it is getting back to normal.

I'm more anxious about some physical things I see going on with myself now, though. I notice my feet are a bit smaller and shoes don't fit as well anymore. My arm muscles feel really weird, like deflating balloons or something. They feel weak, and my arms just seems like they're shrinking. Feel like spaghetti arms. It's really freaking me out. Had bad depersonalization this morning from all this. Sent me into a panic and depression, which lifted. Calm now, but the arms still look strange and feel strange. I am very tired now. So many states of being to go through in one day. It's exhausting.

I just wonder what this arm and foot stuff is all about.
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Old 07-18-2012, 06:25 PM   #35
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I just wonder what this arm and foot stuff is all about.
I can't answer that directly but I thought it might help to know that different parts of the brain govern things like motor activity and perception. It may be those that are currently adjusting?
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:19 PM   #36
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I can't answer that directly but I thought it might help to know that different parts of the brain govern things like motor activity and perception. It may be those that are currently adjusting?
I hope to God that's all this is. There was another member on here whom I seem to relate to, but he hasn't posted in a long time. His body was wasting away, at least in his opinion. Only difference was he was losing weight. I am actually gaining it (have gained almost 5 pounds in last 2 weeks or so! I am now at about 155-160 [fluctuates during the day of course] and stand 5'10". Not bad given I dipped down to about 130s back in February/March of this year). I just hope the arm stuff grows back???
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I hope to God that's all this is. There was another member on here whom I seem to relate to, but he hasn't posted in a long time. His body was wasting away, at least in his opinion. Only difference was he was losing weight. I am actually gaining it (have gained almost 5 pounds in last 2 weeks or so! I am now at about 155-160 [fluctuates during the day of course] and stand 5'10". Not bad given I dipped down to about 130s back in February/March of this year). I just hope the arm stuff grows back???
I was 165 to 175 the entire time I was on Paxil. I am a 5'8" male. I was down to 140 back in January at my worst time of panic and insomnia. I am now at 155 to 160. I consider that to be my new normal. About 10 pounds off my Paxil norm.
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:32 AM   #38
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I was 165 to 175 the entire time I was on Paxil. I am a 5'8" male. I was down to 140 back in January at my worst time of panic and insomnia. I am now at 155 to 160. I consider that to be my new normal. About 10 pounds off my Paxil norm.
Well what I don't understand is how I've been 140s in my past, but never looked and felt the way I do now, which is thinner! I have belly fat now, but almost no body fat on my arms. I don't understand why it's not distributing to my arms/hands, and to a lesser extent feet (thinking the foot shrinking thing is just from the weight loss late last year and early this year). Why is the fat doing this? At least I am gaining weight. 160 or 165 would be good weight for me to have. 170s and I start to be on the heavier side. On Effexor while tapering I was up to almost 180! Way too fat for me.
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Old 07-19-2012, 11:06 AM   #39
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Are you people familiar with mIRC? That could be used to make an unofficial chatroom for PP people.
I've been reading this forum for ~a week and been thinking this. It's also my first post so hello all . Haven't posted anything yet since it's only been two weeks since I crashed harddddd on citalopram and stumbled here, still very much confused and stabilizing and trying to wrap my head around what happened.. I was not expecting this at all.
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Are you people familiar with mIRC? That could be used to make an unofficial chatroom for PP people.
I've been reading this forum for ~a week and been thinking this. It's also my first post so hello all . Haven't posted anything yet since it's only been two weeks since I crashed harddddd on citalopram and stumbled here, still very much confused and stabilizing and trying to wrap my head around what happened.. I was not expecting this at all.
Welcome to PaxilProgress!

mIRC? Sounds familiar. I remember my ex talking about mIRC as long ago it was the only means of chatting on the Internet... or something to that effect? I don't know.

Anyway, on to welcoming you to the forum. Lots of wonderful people here to help you sort this nonsense out - and it really is nonsense. I recommend posting a quick intro post about yourself and your med situation in the General Discussion forum. That way you have a new thread just to introduce you and we can all reply there.

Not having a good day myself. Full of health anxiety, regular anxiety, fear, feeling of death, depression, lethargy. UGH!
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