Could there be a difference between cutting 20mg and actually taking a 10mg pill

[Homerbcool]

As i was out of p-crud, i had to go to the walk in clinic to get presc. renewed...doctor gave me 10mg pills, enough for 10 days..he would not give me anymore, wanted me to get that from my doc. in fact this doctor would not even answer any of my questions, just kept referring me to my own doc.

Anyway, the pills are 10mg pill, I was cutting the 20mg in half preciously...took one 10mg about 10:30 am and I am having fits of anger, displacement, weeping and generally blaise feelings...more then I was when i cut the 20mg in half....

[colomom]

I finally have you all to myself!
Hi bro!!! (((((((Bri))))))), I missed you while you were gone.

I don't think there is that much of a difference between cutting 20mg pills in half and taking a 10mg pill. Very slight, if any.

Considering GSK's record with shoddy manufacturing I would guess a bad batch of pills instead.

Sorry you don't feel good, poor baby. Hang in there. Call your doc for more 20mg pills, if you want, up to you, no pressure

P.S. loved the pic, I knew which one was you. Fine buncha boys!!

TTYL!

[Suze]

That sounds just weird homie....wanna talk about it?

[Suze]

...want my new dvd player???

[rdjanis]

Weird Homer, I was told by the doc that the dosage is less effective if cut. Could be bad manufacturing

[colomom]

Hey Rita....did they say that about regular p-crud or the CR p-crud? My doc said do not cut the CR because then it was no longer extended release. He never said anything about cutting the regular pills.....

[Suze]

....how about a joke?

Homie was sitting in a sauna with all these luscious women.....
......"oh sorry, i was just receiving a fax"

whoops, already did that one.....

[rdjanis]

Originally Posted by colomom

Hey Rita....did they say that about regular p-crud or the CR p-crud? My doc said do not cut the CR because then it was no longer extended release. He never said anything about cutting the regular pills.....

Skye was never on the cr, I was told this about the regular paxil that it would be better not to cut them.

This was at one point they raised her dosage to 30, so I would cut one twenty in half. I continued doing so for the short time she was on 30, it made no difference at all.

[Suze]

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[Homerbcool]

Well, I hope that it was just two days of hell...I will see today....I have a feeling today is going to be an emotional day...since I returned from my biz trip, my wife has been distant...yesterday, as typical for all fridays...we end the week by shooting a few games of pool with the boys, then off to a quick dinner...I finally had to ask Kathy what is up..nothing she says...I told her her mouth says nothing but her eyes are holding back volumes....she told me that this was not the right place to talk about it...
I asked her if she had a talk with her daughter while I was gone and all she said was yes and then immediately changed subject...I knew that she had becuase the communciation between her and her daughter was better...but...I know her daughter, and I know what she is trying to do...she needs to blame someone for her antics and yup that is going to be me...I am fearful of what "ultimatium" I will be facing...I feel it coming...hope I am being paranoid but usually am pretty dead nuts on about this kind of stuff...

Katie will try to be the wedge between kathy and I...Katie will not accept her role and needs to put the blame somewhere elese so she will not be faced with trying to change...kind of a family trait, Kathy does it all the time....I am scared and feel really alone in the house....

[colomom]

Morning Brian:

I don't mean to rain on your parade but, when you told us about the "resolution" that your family had come to.....I had a feeling.....

Let me know when you want me to give advice otherwise, I'll just shut up now....

I know what you mean about feeling lonely in the house, I have been there.....

[Homerbcool]

As a mother Heather, you know the mother and child bond...stronger then steel...I fear/sense an ending that will leave me by myself

[Homerbcool]

Kathy and Katie are sleeping and with every noise I fear that the outcome is getting closer...I typically find resolutions to problems before I am faced with dealing with them..be prepared kind of stuff but on this one...I am at a complete and udder loss

[colomom]

Oh man bro, I really am sorry you feel like that.

Have you guys ever sought family counseling? You need some tools to help you "deal" with Katie so as not to erode your relationship with Kathy. You know the reason they put me on the p-crud? It was cuz Byron (my now 20YO step-son) was making me crazy. I was so irritable all the time trying to deal with that boy. I still have ALOT of anger towards him and really can't understand why. We did family therapy for months and while it did not help Byron and I bond, it did help Brian and I bond, alot!

There are lots of good books about step-parenting too, they can very helpful if counseling doesn't "fit". Please do everything you can because it is only a very short time and Katie will be moving on. You and Kathy can have many, many more years together.

I am praying for you.....*hugs*

[silence4now]

Sorry to hear the news homie. My doc told me that you could never tell what dose you're getting when you cut the pills. That's one reason I went to the liquid when I went below 10 mg.

I agree with Heather on the family counseling. I have a child who is very intelligent and knows how to manipulate the situation to get what he wants. Maybe Mom is unwilling and unable to see what is going on. Family counseling may help bring the truth to light for everyone. In the meantime, try not to let fear overwhelm you and make you feel powerless. Have faith in yourself and what you know is right in your heart, and everything will work out for the best.

[Homerbcool]

What I have seen Katie do and say...i really do not care to bond with her...if it comes down to having to accept and learn to live with Katie...i do not think I can...or desire to...I have bent so much I am now broke...at what point does one say..."yea, it is time to move on?"

I refuse to live my life this way, if it means I have be the one who lives in this house, the house I pay for 100%, ducking and dodging crap...putting my true feelings away...if kathy does tell me that I live and learn to deal with it...then I know my deicision...

I want to be able to look in the mirror when i shave and be proud of the person I am..not look away from the mirror in disgust!!

[Homerbcool]

We tried the family counselling...katie refused to go

[silence4now]

Originally Posted by Homerbcool

I refuse to live my life this way, if it means I have be the one who lives in this house, the house I pay for 100%, ducking and dodging crap...putting my true feelings away...if kathy does tell me that I live and learn to deal with it...then I know my deicision...

I want to be able to look in the mirror when i shave and be proud of the person I am..not look away from the mirror in disgust!!

way to go....

Has your wife received counseling for dealing with a manipulative child?

[colomom]

What about just you and Kathy go?

If you guys can get united in this, you will be able to let go of alot of the angst and fear you are feeling.

Ultimatums are tricky, sometimes they backfire. Are you thinking maybe, trial separation? Some distance might make you feel some relief though it could get expensive....

[safarigal]

Homer,

First the 10mg pills. How many days have you been at 10? Could be that your body and brain are just beginning to feel the effects of the drop. For me it usually took a few days before I felt the full effects of a drop in dose.

Now step-parenting. I'll never do it again.

I was the mom of a horrible teen. For 3 years there was constant tension in my house, whether it was between me and the kid, me and my husband, my husband and my son or between all 3 of us.

It sucked! If I happened to agree with my son in something, then I was against my husband. If I agreed with my husband then I was against my son. I just could not win. I felt like I was in a constant tug-o-war with me being always in the middle. The son knew of the tension he caused so he would do nothing to make matters better. It was years of living hell for me, I had a few nervous breakdowns, developed panic attacks and that's when I went on Paxil. Paxil was what kept me sane during that time.

My husband died in a car crash and a few months after that I moved thousands of miles away from my son. I had to find my sanity.

The bond between mother and child is almost impossible to break. The love between mother and child can not be compared to that of husband and wife. Our children are part of us for the rest of our lives, a spouse not necessarily so. No matter what our children do to us, there is a bond there that is just about unbreakable.

Your wife is in a very difficult situation, having to choose between a man who loves her and her child is not fair. But I can understand your point of view too, its not fair for you that a child is coming between you and the woman you love. Nobody wins.

I have no advice for you, I only want you to know that I understand what you are going through. I know that step parenting is something I will never do again. I want no part of anyone else's children or ex-wives and don't want any man involved in the upbringing of my son. Step parenting has definately left a bitter taste in my mouth.

[Homerbcool]

thank you Julie,I know how tough it is to type these words, brings back memories I am sure...and for that I am forever grateful...it does help to know you are not alone and that no matter what the outcome..you go on....

Brian