Extreme fatigue...HELP ME!

rms · 08-24-2005, 01:04 PM

Ok while i'm trying to change things, as long I fell like a zombie I can't actualy do nothing, if it wasn't for a daily coffee I wouldn't even be able to properly open my eyes nowadays.

Help is very very appreciatted... :-(

MizzT · 08-24-2005, 01:08 PM

Hi RMS. the thing that helped me most with fatigue has been adrenal support. comes in various forms. tinctures, homeopathic and stronger forms like "adrenal, dessicated". that's what i take. just pure bovine adrenal. It helps immensely!!! took like 3 days to kick in....and when i am stressed out...it does not work as well. but if you can get in a week on adrenal support without too much stress....you should feel a whole lot stronger!

nomorepaxil · 08-24-2005, 01:10 PM

Hi RMS,

I've been combatting extreme fatigue too. I posted a thread a while back relating to this... as I type this message, I'm sitting at work like a complete zombie, feeling muscle achy and FATIGUED.

I don't know of any solution to this... I've been trying to go to bed earlier and have been getting 9 to 10 hours of sleep a night on weekdays, but it's still a recurring problem. On weekends I sometimes spend the ENTIRE day sleeping, and that seems to help me for the next couple of days.

Sorry, I'm not offering much help here. I just wanted you to know that you're not alone in this, and I would love to learn from others about some ways to combat this without having to drink loads of caffeine (which triggers panic attacks for me).

rms · 08-24-2005, 01:14 PM

no matter how many hours I sleep, how i sleep i always get up tired...

This has to be something to do with paxil since i've did lots of tests sometime ago and it was all good (blood,etc..etc..)

bummer

MizzT · 08-24-2005, 01:36 PM

it has to do with the brain being "fried" from paxil and WD....and the resulting effect of it causing a continuous pump of adrenal glands. the adrenals get depleted and the body does not have the response of being able to rest and replenish.

by taking adrenal support....the body senses adrenalin....and tells the body to shut down the adrenals because it has enough adrenalin. the adrenals get to rest.
after a week or 2 of resting them instead of stressing them....the fatigue will fade and you will have normal energy again. By supporting the adrenals for a month or two your body will reset and get back to normal adrenal function.
try it....easy to do....cheap to do.

rms · 08-24-2005, 01:43 PM

what name does that go under, so i can look for it on the Herbal/Natural stores around.

Cheers

MizzT · 08-24-2005, 02:01 PM

i have a product by "Standard Process" called Adrenal, Dessicated.
I have used other products called "Adrenal Support" Adrenal Tonic. but they will all say adrenal. ingredient should be Bovine Adrenal.

adrenal dessicated is the strongest form i know of. It says take 2 per day or more as needed. my doc has me on 6 a day....and i can feel that much. 2 does nothing. 2, 3 times a day.....oh yeah! better yet....3...2 times a day! whoooo hoooo!

Once the adrenals get working better....say 1 week. you might consider some B12 sublingual.

I know its a lot of supplements....i can only say what has really helped me. i know if im tired and for the last week i didnt have adrenal or B12....and i can turn it around in a day now.

rms · 08-24-2005, 02:04 PM

Really hope i can find it, also what about multi-vitamins, fish oil,etc.. ? would that do any good in my case?

MizzT · 08-24-2005, 02:21 PM

mag for anxiety....but also for nervous system support. same with fish oil.
same with B vitamins

also...Mag, b vits both are used in synthesizing neurotransmitters....so deficiencies of either will cause more brain fog etc.

its crucial to me to keep up with all my nutrients. if i lapse for too long...even like a week....i notice it in how im sleeping, eating, energy, etc.

silence4now · 08-24-2005, 08:34 PM

This has been a HUGE problem for me since the beginning of my withdrawal. I know the coffee is hard to give up. I still haven't kicked that habit, but cutting back sure helped a lot. My naturopath recommended inositol and some of those Standard Process dessicated products to get me over the hump. As Bev suggested, it only took a few months. 8-10 hours of sleep a night really helps too!

One easy thing I've done to improve my energy is have a protein shake (whey or soy) first thing in the morning to get me going (instead of coffee). Sometimes I add a little coffee to it for taste, but usually I don't need it. I also add things like Udo's oil blend, fruit, peanut butter or whatever I feel like. My energy seems to be best when I take a multi-vitamin too. And I've tried a lot of multi's that didn't agree with me. Finally found one that is very mild AND effective -- Mega Foods Lifestyle One Daily.

08-24-2005, 01:04 PM	#1
rms Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 339	Extreme fatigue...HELP ME! Ok while i'm trying to change things, as long I fell like a zombie I can't actualy do nothing, if it wasn't for a daily coffee I wouldn't even be able to properly open my eyes nowadays. Help is very very appreciatted... :-( __________________ I'm working on stopping beeing sick of everything Seroxat user since February 2003 Currently: Trying to get my life back! Status: Impossible...

08-24-2005, 01:08 PM	#2
MizzT Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NM Posts: 6,881	Re: Extreme fatigue...HELP ME! Hi RMS. the thing that helped me most with fatigue has been adrenal support. comes in various forms. tinctures, homeopathic and stronger forms like "adrenal, dessicated". that's what i take. just pure bovine adrenal. It helps immensely!!! took like 3 days to kick in....and when i am stressed out...it does not work as well. but if you can get in a week on adrenal support without too much stress....you should feel a whole lot stronger!

08-24-2005, 01:10 PM	#3
nomorepaxil Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 94	Re: Extreme fatigue...HELP ME! Hi RMS, I've been combatting extreme fatigue too. I posted a thread a while back relating to this... as I type this message, I'm sitting at work like a complete zombie, feeling muscle achy and FATIGUED. I don't know of any solution to this... I've been trying to go to bed earlier and have been getting 9 to 10 hours of sleep a night on weekdays, but it's still a recurring problem. On weekends I sometimes spend the ENTIRE day sleeping, and that seems to help me for the next couple of days. Sorry, I'm not offering much help here. I just wanted you to know that you're not alone in this, and I would love to learn from others about some ways to combat this without having to drink loads of caffeine (which triggers panic attacks for me). __________________ -Prescribed Paxil in 2000 for social anxiety disorder and panic attacks, 20mg -After the first dose, felt dizzy and disoriented, reduced to 10mg -Stabilized, continued at 10mg for 4 years -Decided to taper in January 2005, dropped to 5mg for 6 months, then tapered (too fast) to 0mg starting in June 2005. -PAXIL-FREE SINCE JULY 5, 2005 -Then found PP (wish I discovered it sooner!) -Currently on the road to recovery, experiencing every bump in the road, it seems.

08-24-2005, 01:14 PM	#4
rms Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 339	Re: Extreme fatigue...HELP ME! no matter how many hours I sleep, how i sleep i always get up tired... This has to be something to do with paxil since i've did lots of tests sometime ago and it was all good (blood,etc..etc..) bummer __________________ I'm working on stopping beeing sick of everything Seroxat user since February 2003 Currently: Trying to get my life back! Status: Impossible...

08-24-2005, 01:36 PM	#5
MizzT Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NM Posts: 6,881	Re: Extreme fatigue...HELP ME! it has to do with the brain being "fried" from paxil and WD....and the resulting effect of it causing a continuous pump of adrenal glands. the adrenals get depleted and the body does not have the response of being able to rest and replenish. by taking adrenal support....the body senses adrenalin....and tells the body to shut down the adrenals because it has enough adrenalin. the adrenals get to rest. after a week or 2 of resting them instead of stressing them....the fatigue will fade and you will have normal energy again. By supporting the adrenals for a month or two your body will reset and get back to normal adrenal function. try it....easy to do....cheap to do.

08-24-2005, 01:43 PM	#6
rms Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 339	Re: Extreme fatigue...HELP ME! what name does that go under, so i can look for it on the Herbal/Natural stores around. Cheers __________________ I'm working on stopping beeing sick of everything Seroxat user since February 2003 Currently: Trying to get my life back! Status: Impossible...

08-24-2005, 02:01 PM	#7
MizzT Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NM Posts: 6,881	Re: Extreme fatigue...HELP ME! i have a product by "Standard Process" called Adrenal, Dessicated. I have used other products called "Adrenal Support" Adrenal Tonic. but they will all say adrenal. ingredient should be Bovine Adrenal. adrenal dessicated is the strongest form i know of. It says take 2 per day or more as needed. my doc has me on 6 a day....and i can feel that much. 2 does nothing. 2, 3 times a day.....oh yeah! better yet....3...2 times a day! whoooo hoooo! Once the adrenals get working better....say 1 week. you might consider some B12 sublingual. I know its a lot of supplements....i can only say what has really helped me. i know if im tired and for the last week i didnt have adrenal or B12....and i can turn it around in a day now.

08-24-2005, 02:04 PM	#8
rms Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 339	Re: Extreme fatigue...HELP ME! Really hope i can find it, also what about multi-vitamins, fish oil,etc.. ? would that do any good in my case? __________________ I'm working on stopping beeing sick of everything Seroxat user since February 2003 Currently: Trying to get my life back! Status: Impossible...

08-24-2005, 02:21 PM	#9
MizzT Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NM Posts: 6,881	Re: Extreme fatigue...HELP ME! mag for anxiety....but also for nervous system support. same with fish oil. same with B vitamins also...Mag, b vits both are used in synthesizing neurotransmitters....so deficiencies of either will cause more brain fog etc. its crucial to me to keep up with all my nutrients. if i lapse for too long...even like a week....i notice it in how im sleeping, eating, energy, etc.

08-24-2005, 08:34 PM	#10
silence4now Join Date: May 2004 Location: SE U.S. Posts: 3,422	Re: Extreme fatigue...HELP ME! This has been a HUGE problem for me since the beginning of my withdrawal. I know the coffee is hard to give up. I still haven't kicked that habit, but cutting back sure helped a lot. My naturopath recommended inositol and some of those Standard Process dessicated products to get me over the hump. As Bev suggested, it only took a few months. 8-10 hours of sleep a night really helps too! One easy thing I've done to improve my energy is have a protein shake (whey or soy) first thing in the morning to get me going (instead of coffee). Sometimes I add a little coffee to it for taste, but usually I don't need it. I also add things like Udo's oil blend, fruit, peanut butter or whatever I feel like. My energy seems to be best when I take a multi-vitamin too. And I've tried a lot of multi's that didn't agree with me. Finally found one that is very mild AND effective -- Mega Foods Lifestyle One Daily. __________________ Lisa - Paxil free since May 2004 _________________________________ God's economy is always positive.

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