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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Might OCD Respond to Antibiotics?
Hmmm, VERY interesting!!
http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/c...code=psychnews Recurrent strep infections are associated with obsessive-compulsive disorder, thus it might be worthwhile to study whether antibiotics can reduce psyciatric symptoms. In the psychiatric domain, infectious agents may produce some surprises. For instance, evidence has been building since the late 1980s that the streptococcus bacterium might cause, or at least contribute to, certain cases of obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD). And now a new study out of London bolsters that argument. Isobel Heyman, M.D., Ph.D., a consulting child and adolescent psychiatrist at the Institute of Psychiatry in London, and coworkers drew blood from 50 children and adolescents with DSM-IV-defined OCD, 100 children and adolescents with other conditions (stroke, metabolic movement disorders, or encephalitis), and 40 healthy children and adolescents. They then determined whether antibodies in the blood samples reacted with a specific antigen—delipidated human basal ganglia (caudate and putamen)—since the basal ganglia has been heavily implicated in OCD. They found anti-basal ganglia antibodies in 42 percent of subjects with OCD, but only in 2 percent to 10 percent of the control groups—a highly significant difference. These results, Heyman and her group concluded in the October British Journal of Psychiatry, thus suggest that "central nervous system autoimmunity may have a role in a significant subgroup of cases of OCD." They also imply that the autoimmunity is provoked by the strep bacterium since patients with a neurological disorder robustly established as a post-strep autoimmune disorder—Sydenham's chorea—usually test positive for antibodies that attack basal ganglia. The findings are too preliminary to have immediate practical implications for clinicians, Heyman told Psychiatric News. "Children and adolescents with OCD should receive the current evidence-based treatments, which are cognitive-behavior therapy with or without SSRI medication." However, she added, "It will be important to research whether children with OCD who have evidence of previous strep infection respond any differently to these standard treatments. Our current clinical view is that they respond in the same way, with up to 80 percent of children showing a good response to treatment." Also, "if it is proven that recurrent strep infections are associated with OCD in vulnerable individuals, and strep is isolated in these children, it might be reasonable," she said, "to study further whether maintenance on antibiotics reduces infectious episodes and in turn is associated with an improvement in OCD. But we are a long way from this being standard clinical practice, as it needs further trials." The study was funded by Action Research UK, the Barnwood House Trust, and the University College London.
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Texas
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Re: Might OCD Respond to Antibiotics?
This would be easier for me to digest if so many people didn't have worsening symptoms when put on antibiotics...
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: New York
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Re: Might OCD Respond to Antibiotics?
Old thread, I know. Is it possible to have had strep throat as a kid without ever having known?
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: New York
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Re: Might OCD Respond to Antibiotics?
Does anyone have any idea?
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Join Date: May 2005
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Re: Might OCD Respond to Antibiotics?
Certainly possible...probable, in fact.
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: New York
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Re: Might OCD Respond to Antibiotics?
I was afraid of that. I am also a little surprised, from what I gather about strep it is a very serious childhood illness that I would think you can't possible have it without knowing - given the symptoms.
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Texas
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Re: Might OCD Respond to Antibiotics?
Probably meaningless story, but my mom & I had gone to visit my grandmother for Easter. I came down with something that made me throw up like crazy. The doctor (in another state) told my mom to get me home to the hospital or he was going to put me in the hospital there. (She worked for him many years before.) Drove me home, put me in the hospital. I remember my doctor coming in and asking me if I had a sore throat. No. Was I sure? Yes. Well, you should because you have strep. Nope. No sore throat.
I'm still not sure what else I had a the time. I also remember getting shots in the side of my stomach. Easter Sunday and my 6th birthday on Monday in the hospital getting shots in the stomach. Will never forget it. Anyway, I had strep and didn't have the "typical" symptom. Still want to know what the hell those shots were...Ow!
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: New York
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Re: Might OCD Respond to Antibiotics?
That wasn't meaningless at all. Thanks for sharing your story. I am sorry you had to go through that.
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