the liver problems manifest

Gottabestrong · 02-16-2006, 11:42 PM

hello, this is a slight continuation of the jaundice post, but id rather keep all the info here. so i have slight jaundice, and a burning and then cold sensation around my liver area. i got all the blood work and will have the restults sunday.

thanks to mizzb for the castor oil recomendation, i will start that this weekend.

i pray my liver doesnt continue to worsen or fail, i pray that its just part of the detox process, only time will tell.

what are all of your results and experiences with liver/oaxil/tests

punky · 02-17-2006, 01:01 AM

The only time i've ever had liver probs is during pregnancy...eclampsia and hellp syndrome. The main blood test they do is the SGOT/ALT (liver enzymes, when elevated, indicate liver damage.) The enzymes are sort of a byproduct of the dying liver cells. Signs are usually dull achy to sharp pain in the right upper quadrant of the abdomen, and if it's really bad you'll see the yellowing of the sclera of the eyes and skin (jaundice).

That stuff with the liver is serious. You say you are already experiencing jaundice and that's just not good. Make sure that they check for all the different types of diseases that could cause your liver to become inflammed. It could be a number of things including the paxil withdrawl. Try and get as much rest as ya can. And try not to take any meds that might cause undue stress on your liver.(i sound like i'm talkin to a patient ...sorry lol habit)

Please keep us posting on what's going on and why you could possibly be in liver failure. Take care.

Gottabestrong · 02-17-2006, 05:39 PM

how is everyone else's liver doing? because of my experience so far, i am actually glad i got off the poison cuz the longer it is in our systems i feel the longer and more complicated the liver problems........

scotty · 02-17-2006, 07:23 PM

Liver damage is a possibility in withdrawal, but not the only adverse effect. Getting it out of the system quickly can be detrimental to other areas, like the brain, stomach, intestines etc...So yes, getting off paxil is excellent for the liver, getting off slow is key!!!

Gottabestrong · 02-17-2006, 07:28 PM

im praying its not "irreversible" liver damage persay.......

scotty · 02-17-2006, 07:42 PM

Did you get tests back yet?

Bern · 02-17-2006, 07:44 PM

I'm sorry to hear about your news. I hope it doesn't get worse for you....hopefully it's just withdrawal and nothing permanent. Sending hugs and prayers your way..........

MizzT · 02-17-2006, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gottabestrong

im praying its not "irreversible" liver damage persay.......

Gotta.....this is what i say whenever anyone comes in with the panic over PERMANENT damage. what does that mean? permanent?

i dont want to get all energetic on you again.....but....is anything permanent?
IF.....when i die....im layin on the table hallucinating and jerking and seizing....i can scream out as i die....IT WAS PERMANENT!!!!

until then...i focus on healing. the liver has a great ability to heal. so does the brain. have faith.

Gottabestrong · 02-17-2006, 08:16 PM

thanks

Gottabestrong · 02-17-2006, 08:17 PM

ill post the results on sunday after i get them and discuss them with the doc

scotty · 02-17-2006, 08:28 PM

Only if you want to! It's just my nursey side coming out... we love numbers!!!

Katesmom · 02-17-2006, 11:09 PM

Gotta,

When I was pregnant, I was on high doses of Aldomet that is known to cause liver damage. I was so freaked out about that, but my docs assured me that the liver has an amazing ability to repair itself. I held onto that assurance, you can too.

02-18-2006, 09:11 AM

Just to let you know, after a year off paxil , I was practically yellow ...

I think its took about 2 years before my liver cleaned out the paxil garbage...
But who knows , the paxil experience is unmapped territory, as far as what the future holds... most of it is guesswork ....

Pat Shields · 02-18-2006, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redking

Just to let you know, after a year off paxil , I was practically yellow ...

From the looks of your avatar down there, you still seem a bit yellow. . . .

Gottabestrong · 02-18-2006, 11:30 AM

thanks again for all the reassurance, it means a lot to me........ redking, did you go to the doctor and do liver tests and any type of diet/physical routine to help yourself?

Gottabestrong · 02-18-2006, 11:42 AM

also i wanted to ask what other symptoms did everyone else have related to the liver?

my tongue is white, my breath is bad (but has gotten a bit better) and i got tiny red bumps/lesions on various parts of my body.

so yeah those are other things to watch out for in addition to normal symptoms

MizzT · 02-18-2006, 11:55 AM

ive had red bumps....and hives....and all sorts of skin things....for i dont know how long now. over 2 years i think . epsom salt baths will help draw that out.

another thing im doing is Far Infrared Sauna. it REALLLLY helps detox the body and does it thru sweat....but not exertion.....so you dont get toxins in the bloodstream and feel sick. its pretty sweet. also...im using vitamin K for the hives and that seems to help as long as i stay out of chemicals like jewlery cleaners.

Broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage have a lot of sulfur. that will help your liver. and i LOVE my Detoxication Factors by Tyler-inc.com. those REALLY help with detox nutrients. and GREENS FIRST is the other product i use which is veggie nutrients. i think the greens first is the one thing that i will never give up. spirulina and chlorella and like 20 veggies. after a few months on that and yer poop dont even smell! and tongue is pink and healthy again.

its heavy nutrient stuff. that is what has i think helped heal my body.
i would never get that much veggie stuff from food....and when i cant eat because im ill....i can down a greens first and get a lot of nutrient value in not much food stuff....and its never made me puke yet!!

Gottabestrong · 02-18-2006, 11:59 AM

what is this far infrared sauna you are talking about? how muchis it and what places do this? thanks

feelin'_wiggy · 02-18-2006, 12:21 PM

For good advice on liver health, check out the Liver Doctor's website. http://www.liverdoctor.com I have her book have followed the diet. It's very safe and full of nutritious food. I've had IBS for years, and in early w/l, I had terrible bloating and liver pain. Not anymore. One thing that has made a huge difference is cutting way back on meat. I only eat red meat once a week at the most. Should probably give it up completely, but I'm too much of a meat eater. I don't take Dr. Cabot's supplement. Instead, I use a Whole Foods product called Opti Liver. Of course, that's out of the question for you until you know exactly what you're dealing with. Be careful with vitamins. Some can be highly toxic to a damaged liver, especially the B vitamins.

02-18-2006, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat Shields

From the looks of your avatar down there, you still seem a bit yellow. . . .

Thats yoda from star wars ...
and hes ...green

Ill hold back from commenting on yours....

Gottabestrong · 02-18-2006, 12:36 PM

redking, did you go to the doctor and do liver tests and any type of diet/physical routine to help yourself?

02-18-2006, 12:41 PM

I had a lot of tests done , but it was a long time after the withdrawal , blood tests mainly ...

I got pneumonia in withdrawal , so in a word i was kind of "F**ked" ...

Anyhow, its all in the past now , dont know how i survived it all ...but hey anyone that goes through this **** and survives deserves a a million medals...

Olympics Vs Paxil withdrawal ?

Olympics... walk in the park.....

Gottabestrong · 02-18-2006, 01:04 PM

well im happy for you redking, u defintely are strong to survive what u have gone through.......sorry to hear about the pnuemonia, but im saying did you have your liver checked, was your yellowness caused by liver issues? thanks again

02-18-2006, 02:36 PM

Hi

I didnt have my liver checked at the time because i was still mostly uninformed about paxil , i have been posting here a year now , and im very well informed now and i believe the yellowy jaundiced face i had and general crappyness was due to toxic overload of paxil....

I find it quite ironic that when people first take paxil they sweat all the time but then after withdrawal the body seems to lose its ability to sweat for some people....so a build up of toxins in inevitable

MizzT · 02-18-2006, 02:58 PM

i pm'd Gottabestrong about the sauna....but FYI for anyone else
I got a http://www.saunadome.com

i like it a lot!

02-16-2006, 11:42 PM	#1
Gottabestrong Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 399	the liver problems manifest hello, this is a slight continuation of the jaundice post, but id rather keep all the info here. so i have slight jaundice, and a burning and then cold sensation around my liver area. i got all the blood work and will have the restults sunday. thanks to mizzb for the castor oil recomendation, i will start that this weekend. i pray my liver doesnt continue to worsen or fail, i pray that its just part of the detox process, only time will tell. what are all of your results and experiences with liver/oaxil/tests

02-17-2006, 01:01 AM	#2
punky Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 834	Re: the liver problems manifest The only time i've ever had liver probs is during pregnancy...eclampsia and hellp syndrome. The main blood test they do is the SGOT/ALT (liver enzymes, when elevated, indicate liver damage.) The enzymes are sort of a byproduct of the dying liver cells. Signs are usually dull achy to sharp pain in the right upper quadrant of the abdomen, and if it's really bad you'll see the yellowing of the sclera of the eyes and skin (jaundice). That stuff with the liver is serious. You say you are already experiencing jaundice and that's just not good. Make sure that they check for all the different types of diseases that could cause your liver to become inflammed. It could be a number of things including the paxil withdrawl. Try and get as much rest as ya can. And try not to take any meds that might cause undue stress on your liver.(i sound like i'm talkin to a patient ...sorry lol habit) Please keep us posting on what's going on and why you could possibly be in liver failure. Take care. __________________ 7/00-1/1/06 Paxil 20-40mg 1/2-2/18 Paxil CR 25mg 2/19-5/3 Paxil CR 12.5mg 5/4-5/9 Paxil CR 25mg 5/10-5/15 Paxil CR 12.5mg 5/16-6/10 Paxil CR 10mg 6/11-7/13 Paxil CR 6.25mg 7/13-7/31 Paxil CR 3mg 8/1-9/5 Paxil CR 6.25mg 9/6 to 9/11 Paxil 10mg/5ml Suspension 5mg (2.5ml) 9/12 to present Paxil 10mg/5ml Suspension 7mg (3.5ml)

02-17-2006, 05:39 PM	#3
Gottabestrong Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 399	Re: the liver problems manifest how is everyone else's liver doing? because of my experience so far, i am actually glad i got off the poison cuz the longer it is in our systems i feel the longer and more complicated the liver problems........

02-17-2006, 07:23 PM	#4
scotty Administrator & Advocate Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: new jersey Posts: 38,590	Re: the liver problems manifest Liver damage is a possibility in withdrawal, but not the only adverse effect. Getting it out of the system quickly can be detrimental to other areas, like the brain, stomach, intestines etc...So yes, getting off paxil is excellent for the liver, getting off slow is key!!! __________________ AKA Laurie "If you can find a path with no obstacles, it probably doesn't lead anywhere." ~Frank A. Clark

02-17-2006, 07:28 PM	#5
Gottabestrong Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 399	Re: the liver problems manifest im praying its not "irreversible" liver damage persay.......

02-17-2006, 07:42 PM	#6
scotty Administrator & Advocate Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: new jersey Posts: 38,590	Re: the liver problems manifest Did you get tests back yet? __________________ AKA Laurie "If you can find a path with no obstacles, it probably doesn't lead anywhere." ~Frank A. Clark

02-17-2006, 07:44 PM	#7
Bern Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 3,316	Re: the liver problems manifest I'm sorry to hear about your news. I hope it doesn't get worse for you....hopefully it's just withdrawal and nothing permanent. Sending hugs and prayers your way.......... __________________ PAXIL FREE SINCE 8/16/09!!! Spent a total of 11 years on Paxil. I have been taking Anafranil since 2005. Alcohol free since 12/31/07----Seroquel Free since 7/30/08

02-17-2006, 08:16 PM	#9
Gottabestrong Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 399	Re: the liver problems manifest thanks

02-17-2006, 08:17 PM	#10
Gottabestrong Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 399	Re: the liver problems manifest ill post the results on sunday after i get them and discuss them with the doc

02-17-2006, 08:28 PM	#11
scotty Administrator & Advocate Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: new jersey Posts: 38,590	Re: the liver problems manifest Only if you want to! It's just my nursey side coming out... we love numbers!!! __________________ AKA Laurie "If you can find a path with no obstacles, it probably doesn't lead anywhere." ~Frank A. Clark

02-17-2006, 11:09 PM	#12
Katesmom Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 13,706	Re: the liver problems manifest Gotta, When I was pregnant, I was on high doses of Aldomet that is known to cause liver damage. I was so freaked out about that, but my docs assured me that the liver has an amazing ability to repair itself. I held onto that assurance, you can too. __________________ Katesmom aka Kim started Paxil Oct. 2003 for PIH Paxil free since 19 Jul 2005 ". . .the cruelest lies are often told without a word. . .the kindest truths are often spoken, never heard." -- Ben Folds

02-18-2006, 09:11 AM	#13
Redking Posts: n/a	Re: the liver problems manifest Just to let you know, after a year off paxil , I was practically yellow ... I think its took about 2 years before my liver cleaned out the paxil garbage... But who knows , the paxil experience is unmapped territory, as far as what the future holds... most of it is guesswork ....

02-18-2006, 11:30 AM	#15
Gottabestrong Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 399	Re: the liver problems manifest thanks again for all the reassurance, it means a lot to me........ redking, did you go to the doctor and do liver tests and any type of diet/physical routine to help yourself?

02-18-2006, 11:42 AM	#16
Gottabestrong Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 399	Re: the liver problems manifest also i wanted to ask what other symptoms did everyone else have related to the liver? my tongue is white, my breath is bad (but has gotten a bit better) and i got tiny red bumps/lesions on various parts of my body. so yeah those are other things to watch out for in addition to normal symptoms

02-18-2006, 11:55 AM	#17
MizzT Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NM Posts: 6,881	Re: the liver problems manifest ive had red bumps....and hives....and all sorts of skin things....for i dont know how long now. over 2 years i think . epsom salt baths will help draw that out. another thing im doing is Far Infrared Sauna. it REALLLLY helps detox the body and does it thru sweat....but not exertion.....so you dont get toxins in the bloodstream and feel sick. its pretty sweet. also...im using vitamin K for the hives and that seems to help as long as i stay out of chemicals like jewlery cleaners. Broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage have a lot of sulfur. that will help your liver. and i LOVE my Detoxication Factors by Tyler-inc.com. those REALLY help with detox nutrients. and GREENS FIRST is the other product i use which is veggie nutrients. i think the greens first is the one thing that i will never give up. spirulina and chlorella and like 20 veggies. after a few months on that and yer poop dont even smell! and tongue is pink and healthy again. its heavy nutrient stuff. that is what has i think helped heal my body. i would never get that much veggie stuff from food....and when i cant eat because im ill....i can down a greens first and get a lot of nutrient value in not much food stuff....and its never made me puke yet!!

02-18-2006, 11:59 AM	#18
Gottabestrong Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 399	Re: the liver problems manifest what is this far infrared sauna you are talking about? how muchis it and what places do this? thanks

02-18-2006, 12:21 PM	#19
feelin'_wiggy Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 3,301	Re: the liver problems manifest For good advice on liver health, check out the Liver Doctor's website. http://www.liverdoctor.com I have her book have followed the diet. It's very safe and full of nutritious food. I've had IBS for years, and in early w/l, I had terrible bloating and liver pain. Not anymore. One thing that has made a huge difference is cutting way back on meat. I only eat red meat once a week at the most. Should probably give it up completely, but I'm too much of a meat eater. I don't take Dr. Cabot's supplement. Instead, I use a Whole Foods product called Opti Liver. Of course, that's out of the question for you until you know exactly what you're dealing with. Be careful with vitamins. Some can be highly toxic to a damaged liver, especially the B vitamins. __________________ *Deborah* Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage -- Anais Nin ...the most you can hope is to be a little less, in the end, the creature you were in the beginning and the middle. -- Samuel Beckett (The Unnamable) . 1998: Paxil prescribed during mother's battle with cancer. 07/03 thru 05/05: Poop out; 2 botched attempts at wd; bipolar dx; more drugs added 04/05: quit lithium, Adderall and Xanax 05/05: Began 3rd attempt at wd 07/22/05: Liberated! http://www.benzo.org.uk

02-18-2006, 12:36 PM	#21
Gottabestrong Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 399	Re: the liver problems manifest redking, did you go to the doctor and do liver tests and any type of diet/physical routine to help yourself?

02-18-2006, 12:41 PM	#22
Redking Posts: n/a	Re: the liver problems manifest I had a lot of tests done , but it was a long time after the withdrawal , blood tests mainly ... I got pneumonia in withdrawal , so in a word i was kind of "Fked" ... Anyhow, its all in the past now , dont know how i survived it all ...but hey anyone that goes through this ** and survives deserves a a million medals... Olympics Vs Paxil withdrawal ? Olympics... walk in the park.....

02-18-2006, 01:04 PM	#23
Gottabestrong Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 399	Re: the liver problems manifest well im happy for you redking, u defintely are strong to survive what u have gone through.......sorry to hear about the pnuemonia, but im saying did you have your liver checked, was your yellowness caused by liver issues? thanks again

02-18-2006, 02:36 PM	#24
Redking Posts: n/a	Re: the liver problems manifest Hi I didnt have my liver checked at the time because i was still mostly uninformed about paxil , i have been posting here a year now , and im very well informed now and i believe the yellowy jaundiced face i had and general crappyness was due to toxic overload of paxil.... I find it quite ironic that when people first take paxil they sweat all the time but then after withdrawal the body seems to lose its ability to sweat for some people....so a build up of toxins in inevitable

02-18-2006, 02:58 PM	#25
MizzT Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NM Posts: 6,881	Re: the liver problems manifest i pm'd Gottabestrong about the sauna....but FYI for anyone else I got a http://www.saunadome.com i like it a lot!

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