Hypnotherapy

SUNSHINE06 · 03-09-2006, 11:11 PM

Has anyone tried hypnotherapy for depression/losing weight and how did you find it?

I had a consultation with one today and don't really know if I want it.
He is a family doctor who does hypnotherapy in North York, Ont, Cda.
Wants to see me once a week for a year, about 45 minutes to an hour each time. If I cancel without giving 24hrs notice, I would pay $100.00.
This doctor has a parrot? in in the office, goes shoeless, just socks and wears a multi-colored cap, and has a pigtail. His office was a railway station tonight. Lots of patients coming and going constantly!

I have a problem understanding his secretary whose mother tongue is definitely not English. My appointments would be Mondays at 1:00 pm.
But if something comes up on the weekends and cancel Mondays, then I would have to pay $100.00. I thought Mondays would be less busy so I could go to the appointment, then return to work. Later appointments won't be available for a few months. Decisions, decisions. So hard to communicate with that secretary.

dar7726 · 03-09-2006, 11:22 PM

I think trying EFT first may be cheaper. Does your insurance pay for this?

Darlene

SUNSHINE06 · 03-09-2006, 11:29 PM

Our Ontario health insurance covers the hypnotherapy.

rdjanis · 03-10-2006, 12:19 AM

When did that happen?

I-H8-Paxil · 03-10-2006, 08:31 AM

I thought about trying hypnotherapy. I tried self-hypnosis but it was just me listening to my own ugly voice on tape and it didn't do squat.

I am interested to hear how it goes for you.

MizzT · 03-10-2006, 11:01 AM

i had it done about 11 or 12 years ago by a really talented dr. it was amazing!!!
im not sure it solved MY problem at the time.....but here's my little secret.

LMAO
I talked my violent ex husband into going. told him she was a marriage counselor and that the hypno would be a way of us working on stuff without really dealing with it and talking. ( i had actually met her thru the domestic abuse hotline)

I talked to her in advance and she said she could make it so he never beat me up again. And it worked. He didnt remember anything from the session about that.....and he never hit me again. of course the emotional and mental crap continued.....but no joke....i never got hit again after that.
I think it can be very powerful if the practitioner is good. But i think that follows with many alternative therapies.

However......Caveat Emptor: My dr was straight up with me. i knew what was going on with me. but.....my ex....did not. Under hypnosis...you are not under control of your faculties...the practitioner controls it.

SUNSHINE06 · 03-11-2006, 10:12 PM

Thanks everyone for your replies!
Rita, I know Ohip has been picking up the tab for hypnotherapy for at least 10 yrs or more, because my friend went to a Dr. Campbell back then and it was covered. Feeling desperate for some help. I feel so depressed and cut off from people. Don't want to go out for a cousin's reunion because of the hypocrisy. Today's flavor is chocolate so my cousin and sister are on good terms now, but you should see when they are not! So vicious.

My sister had lap-band surgery for weight loss 3 yrs ago (but still hasn't told anyone) and she looks fabulous. It cost her $15,000 and lost over one hundred pounds. Now I here she wants plastic surgery to remove the excess skin on her arms and possible a breast lift. Am I jealous or what?

rdjanis · 03-11-2006, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzB

I talked to her in advance and she said she could make it so he never beat me up again. And it worked. He didnt remember anything from the session about that.....and he never hit me again.

roflmao.... not a funny situation, but the fact that you pulled that off is amazing!!

MizzT · 03-11-2006, 11:29 PM

I thought so too. She was the COOLEST Lady. I wish i could find her again. she moved and i lost touch with her. She was all for helping women who had gotten hurt....and it was such a non-invasive way for me to be a bit safer if he and i planned to work on things.

taperad · 03-12-2006, 12:06 PM

I have attended a training session on Hypnotherapy,and it is good.I have used it for self hypnosis and have even tried it on a couple of friends.

The subject cannot be hypnotised withot his or her consent.A good hypnotist can really can help in problems like Anxiety ,Depression.I have met a Doctor who specialises in smoking cessation.I have cassetes for various issues ,which I find good.

Have you considered CBT and other such therapies.

rdjanis · 03-12-2006, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by taperad

I have attended a training session on Hypnotherapy,and it is good.I have used it for self hypnosis and have even tried it on a couple of friends.

Are you saying that you have learned to do this by listening to cassettes???? I find that scary!! I find hypnotherapy interesting, however would not EVER let anyone do it to me LOL

taperad · 03-13-2006, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rdjanis

Are you saying that you have learned to do this by listening to cassettes???? I find that scary!! I find hypnotherapy interesting, however would not EVER let anyone do it to me LOL

I think you have not read my post fully.I attended a workshop conducted by one of the leading Hypnotherapists in the country.We were initiated into 'Self Hypnosis'.We practised hypnosis for making our course mates relax,and succeded.

The point is with a cassette by the Master ,with subliminal music I can do self hypnosis,easier.

BTW,I have completed many courses on Yoga,Meditation(Over a period of four years I became a Master in a particular form of Kundalini Meditation),Taichi (Long Style Yang Form),Reiki,Pranic Healing and so on over the last 15 years.If you are aware of 'Alpha ' levels of the mind ,you will realise that all that incuding Hypnosis is related.

MizzT · 03-13-2006, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by taperad

BTW,I have completed many courses on Yoga,Meditation(Over a period of four years I became a Master in a particular form of Kundalini Meditation),Taichi (Long Style Yang Form),Reiki,Pranic Healing and so on over the last 15 years.If you are aware of 'Alpha ' levels of the mind ,you will realise that all that incuding Hypnosis is related.

amazing education taperad!
WOW! id love to learn more about self-hypnosis. Im looking into the classes available at southwest institute in santa fe. id really like to do some formal training in some of the energy healing that i am learning.

I remember the hypnosis being quite similar in many ways to like Holographic Memory Resolution.....except that the sensation of going under was quite different and something i really enjoyed.

people are often afraid of being hypnotized....and like i said....i would only do it with someone who credentialed....and trustworthy. Im not sure how you find that out.....but in my case...a therapist i got thru the womens domestic abuse hotline/suicide hotline...and used as a therapist and got to know and trust....seemed like a good person to deal with. As with EFT tho....i also really like the concept of self-hypnosis. If you can do it yourself and trust yourself....all the better.

scotty · 03-13-2006, 12:43 PM

Ryan's psychologist did some hypnosis with him in the worst part of withdrawal. It did help with the horrendous anxiety.

taperad · 03-14-2006, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzB

amazing education taperad!
WOW! id love to learn more about self-hypnosis. Im looking into the classes available at southwest institute in santa fe. id really like to do some formal training in some of the energy healing that i am learning.

I remember the hypnosis being quite similar in many ways to like Holographic Memory Resolution.....except that the sensation of going under was quite different and something i really enjoyed.

people are often afraid of being hypnotized....and like i said....i would only do it with someone who credentialed....and trustworthy. Im not sure how you find that out.....but in my case...a therapist i got thru the womens domestic abuse hotline/suicide hotline...and used as a therapist and got to know and trust....seemed like a good person to deal with. As with EFT tho....i also really like the concept of self-hypnosis. If you can do it yourself and trust yourself....all the better.

Hi MizzB,

Thank you.I was into Yoga from College days,but then discontinued soon after .When I first got into Health problems and Allopathy meds and Xanax,I started looking for answers in Alternate medicines and Systems.That is how I got into learning continuosly.

I have noticed that you are studying neuromodulation .Is it something similar to NLP or different.

MizzT · 03-14-2006, 01:04 PM

NMT is what i do with my naturopath. So i learn from her as i go. Its quite different from NLP tho. its a series of statements and muscle testing to help remove or clear mental/emotional blocks. so say the problem is migraines.
but there are particular aspects of them.....emotions, cognitive faults, other mental processing faults that could be from birth, conception, past life, etc etc.

Applied kinesiology is used to get the yes/no answers. Then the actual technique is set with verbal intention...and tapped on the bladder meridian on the back.

The results for me vary. on some things...POOF....problem gone. one tap.
On others.....its work.
There are "pathways"....specific written verbal intentions that the practitioner reads out loud as you go thru the muscle testing. Getting the liver to function better, getting toxins to release, getting the body to relax and not hold tension. Hundreds of them. various pathways to repair various damage to various systems. The profound responses i have gotten have often been with these specific pathways.
The tension release pathway is a favorite! feels like taking 5 mgs of valium in 2 minutes! and it lasts! and i sleep like a baby afterwards.
The detox pathways are similar. very obvious symptoms of detox afterwards....and for whatever time period is specified.

Its about 4 or 5 years old. developed by Feinberg...in Washington state.

taperad · 03-15-2006, 11:35 AM

NMT is very interesting.I will spend some time to read thru the NMT website and come back and clarify doubts.

Suze · 03-15-2006, 01:39 PM

Hi Sunshine,
Just wanted to add my 2 bits worth here. BTW, did you go again this past Monday?

I think what can be confusing about hypnotherapy is that there is some misunderstanding about what it really is--which is actually just a state of deep relaxation. It's nothing woowoo or magical. Being in that state of deep relaxation can help open blocks or resistance and can lead to all sorts of avenues for change and healing.

To me it would be important to have a good intuitive feeling about the practitioner. Anyone can call themselves a hypnotherapist after taking a course on the computer, for example. In your case, it is a family doctor with some recognized credentials in that area. I'd be comfortable with that scenario if I had a good feel for the guy. Social workers or psychologists with similar credentials would again be ok in my books. I would stay away from a psychiatrist, however.

I believe that the healer/counsellor is limited by their own degree of healing in his or her personal life. "Physician heal thyself" is an essential first step before setting out to help/heal another.

Hope to get an update from you on how it's going for you.

03-09-2006, 11:11 PM	#1
SUNSHINE06 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 18	Hypnotherapy Has anyone tried hypnotherapy for depression/losing weight and how did you find it? I had a consultation with one today and don't really know if I want it. He is a family doctor who does hypnotherapy in North York, Ont, Cda. Wants to see me once a week for a year, about 45 minutes to an hour each time. If I cancel without giving 24hrs notice, I would pay $100.00. This doctor has a parrot? in in the office, goes shoeless, just socks and wears a multi-colored cap, and has a pigtail. His office was a railway station tonight. Lots of patients coming and going constantly! I have a problem understanding his secretary whose mother tongue is definitely not English. My appointments would be Mondays at 1:00 pm. But if something comes up on the weekends and cancel Mondays, then I would have to pay $100.00. I thought Mondays would be less busy so I could go to the appointment, then return to work. Later appointments won't be available for a few months. Decisions, decisions. So hard to communicate with that secretary.

03-09-2006, 11:22 PM	#2
dar7726 Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,488	Re: Hypnotherapy I think trying EFT first may be cheaper. Does your insurance pay for this? Darlene

03-09-2006, 11:29 PM	#3
SUNSHINE06 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 18	Re: Hypnotherapy Our Ontario health insurance covers the hypnotherapy. __________________ -postnatal despression starting in 1986 -tried prozac in 1990. -switched to paxil 40mg in 1995? -added wellbutrin in 2000? -tapered off paxil in Sept. 2005 -tapered off wellbutrin Dec. 2005

03-10-2006, 12:19 AM	#4
rdjanis "has a lavender scented keyboard" Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ontario Posts: 22,238	Re: Hypnotherapy When did that happen? __________________ Rita

03-10-2006, 08:31 AM	#5
I-H8-Paxil Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York Posts: 565	Re: Hypnotherapy I thought about trying hypnotherapy. I tried self-hypnosis but it was just me listening to my own ugly voice on tape and it didn't do squat. I am interested to hear how it goes for you.

03-10-2006, 11:01 AM	#6
MizzT Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NM Posts: 6,881	Re: Hypnotherapy i had it done about 11 or 12 years ago by a really talented dr. it was amazing!!! im not sure it solved MY problem at the time.....but here's my little secret. LMAO I talked my violent ex husband into going. told him she was a marriage counselor and that the hypno would be a way of us working on stuff without really dealing with it and talking. ( i had actually met her thru the domestic abuse hotline) I talked to her in advance and she said she could make it so he never beat me up again. And it worked. He didnt remember anything from the session about that.....and he never hit me again. of course the emotional and mental crap continued.....but no joke....i never got hit again after that. I think it can be very powerful if the practitioner is good. But i think that follows with many alternative therapies. However......Caveat Emptor: My dr was straight up with me. i knew what was going on with me. but.....my ex....did not. Under hypnosis...you are not under control of your faculties...the practitioner controls it.

03-11-2006, 10:12 PM	#7
SUNSHINE06 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 18	Re: Hypnotherapy Thanks everyone for your replies! Rita, I know Ohip has been picking up the tab for hypnotherapy for at least 10 yrs or more, because my friend went to a Dr. Campbell back then and it was covered. Feeling desperate for some help. I feel so depressed and cut off from people. Don't want to go out for a cousin's reunion because of the hypocrisy. Today's flavor is chocolate so my cousin and sister are on good terms now, but you should see when they are not! So vicious. My sister had lap-band surgery for weight loss 3 yrs ago (but still hasn't told anyone) and she looks fabulous. It cost her $15,000 and lost over one hundred pounds. Now I here she wants plastic surgery to remove the excess skin on her arms and possible a breast lift. Am I jealous or what? __________________ -postnatal despression starting in 1986 -tried prozac in 1990. -switched to paxil 40mg in 1995? -added wellbutrin in 2000? -tapered off paxil in Sept. 2005 -tapered off wellbutrin Dec. 2005

03-11-2006, 11:29 PM	#9
MizzT Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NM Posts: 6,881	Re: Hypnotherapy I thought so too. She was the COOLEST Lady. I wish i could find her again. she moved and i lost touch with her. She was all for helping women who had gotten hurt....and it was such a non-invasive way for me to be a bit safer if he and i planned to work on things.

03-12-2006, 12:06 PM	#10
taperad Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 72	Re: Hypnotherapy I have attended a training session on Hypnotherapy,and it is good.I have used it for self hypnosis and have even tried it on a couple of friends. The subject cannot be hypnotised withot his or her consent.A good hypnotist can really can help in problems like Anxiety ,Depression.I have met a Doctor who specialises in smoking cessation.I have cassetes for various issues ,which I find good. Have you considered CBT and other such therapies. __________________ NO Xanax (from Oct 2005)and No Lexapro from 15/6/2006.

03-13-2006, 12:43 PM	#14
scotty Administrator & Advocate Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: new jersey Posts: 38,590	Re: Hypnotherapy Ryan's psychologist did some hypnosis with him in the worst part of withdrawal. It did help with the horrendous anxiety. __________________ AKA Laurie "If you can find a path with no obstacles, it probably doesn't lead anywhere." ~Frank A. Clark

03-14-2006, 01:04 PM	#16
MizzT Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NM Posts: 6,881	Re: Hypnotherapy NMT is what i do with my naturopath. So i learn from her as i go. Its quite different from NLP tho. its a series of statements and muscle testing to help remove or clear mental/emotional blocks. so say the problem is migraines. but there are particular aspects of them.....emotions, cognitive faults, other mental processing faults that could be from birth, conception, past life, etc etc. Applied kinesiology is used to get the yes/no answers. Then the actual technique is set with verbal intention...and tapped on the bladder meridian on the back. The results for me vary. on some things...POOF....problem gone. one tap. On others.....its work. There are "pathways"....specific written verbal intentions that the practitioner reads out loud as you go thru the muscle testing. Getting the liver to function better, getting toxins to release, getting the body to relax and not hold tension. Hundreds of them. various pathways to repair various damage to various systems. The profound responses i have gotten have often been with these specific pathways. The tension release pathway is a favorite! feels like taking 5 mgs of valium in 2 minutes! and it lasts! and i sleep like a baby afterwards. The detox pathways are similar. very obvious symptoms of detox afterwards....and for whatever time period is specified. Its about 4 or 5 years old. developed by Feinberg...in Washington state.

03-15-2006, 11:35 AM	#17
taperad Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 72	Re: Hypnotherapy NMT is very interesting.I will spend some time to read thru the NMT website and come back and clarify doubts. __________________ NO Xanax (from Oct 2005)and No Lexapro from 15/6/2006.

03-15-2006, 01:39 PM	#18
Suze Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,531	Re: Hypnotherapy Hi Sunshine, Just wanted to add my 2 bits worth here. BTW, did you go again this past Monday? I think what can be confusing about hypnotherapy is that there is some misunderstanding about what it really is--which is actually just a state of deep relaxation. It's nothing woowoo or magical. Being in that state of deep relaxation can help open blocks or resistance and can lead to all sorts of avenues for change and healing. To me it would be important to have a good intuitive feeling about the practitioner. Anyone can call themselves a hypnotherapist after taking a course on the computer, for example. In your case, it is a family doctor with some recognized credentials in that area. I'd be comfortable with that scenario if I had a good feel for the guy. Social workers or psychologists with similar credentials would again be ok in my books. I would stay away from a psychiatrist, however. I believe that the healer/counsellor is limited by their own degree of healing in his or her personal life. "Physician heal thyself" is an essential first step before setting out to help/heal another. Hope to get an update from you on how it's going for you.

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