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Old 05-18-2006, 07:31 AM   #1
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post Paxil chemical imbalance

A debilitating depression move over me last Wednesday. I barely worked through each day and went to bed at 5:30 pm. Friday I fled to my parents house where the depression followed for the weekend.
Monday I was chatting with a church friend. We couldn't match the depression to anything going on in my life. One hypothesis was actually that God used the depression to keep me from making a poor decision. There were a couple big things earlier in the week that I handled well. So to keep me from reversing my choices God let me just go to sleep.
Of course I know my brain just hasn't adjusted to no Paxil. This depression was so different than any before Paxil. Before, anxiety brought on my depression. This recent feeling seemed totally removed from the rest of my life. I just wanted to sleep.


Spell check says I spelled Paxil wrong.
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Old 05-18-2006, 07:43 AM   #2
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(wanring to myself ignored...again.) At the risk of starting a religious affair here...I have been curious as to what was god's intent when paxil was invented, when paxil was okayed by the FDA, when test results were hidden and just before you popped the little pill into your mouth for the first time...I am not trying to sart a good god vs a bad god debate, just curious.
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Old 05-18-2006, 07:55 AM   #3
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Re: post Paxil chemical imbalance

I don't think we ever will truly understand, thats where faith becomes sooo hard. If you find out let me know.
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Old 05-18-2006, 11:06 AM   #4
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So, GSK is now God?
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Old 05-18-2006, 11:28 AM   #5
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Re: post Paxil chemical imbalance

JP Garnier seems to think he is.
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Old 05-19-2006, 07:23 AM   #6
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Re: post Paxil chemical imbalance

God can use anything to positively change our lives. Paxil maybe the result of a great GSK sin, but we can all learn from it. I don't know what, but it is different for everyone anyway.
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Old 05-19-2006, 08:33 AM   #7
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Paxil maybe the result of a great GSK sin,
No maybe about it...... IT IS!!

Don't ask me why God allowed it, I am struggling with that one myself. Haven't a clue why god allows evil other than as a result of allowing free will.

Keep asking myself "what in the world God is thinking" ........ but I still believe that for me and my family, something good can eventually come out of all of this. I'm keeping the faith, in spite of how hellish things may look right now.
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Old 05-19-2006, 03:45 PM   #8
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No maybe about it...... IT IS!!

Don't ask me why God allowed it, I am struggling with that one myself. Haven't a clue why god allows evil other than as a result of allowing free will.

Keep asking myself "what in the world God is thinking" ........ but I still believe that for me and my family, something good can eventually come out of all of this. I'm keeping the faith, in spite of how hellish things may look right now.
I think about Paxil as the evil drug, and greed as the real motive of Big Pharma.
Why God allows it is another question...
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Old 05-19-2006, 05:22 PM   #9
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Not to get over religious but the Bible says......The love of money is the root of all evil. To take a shot at the rest of your question I have to ask this. Would you have been motivated to take action and speak out by anything less than what has happened to you or your loved one? I don't think I would have! The awareness we raise now may very well stop something much worse from being blindly accepted. Just something to ponder over a cool iced tea under a shade tree.
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Old 05-19-2006, 10:03 PM   #10
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I have always felt that these things happen so we can learn and educate others. This has certainly been the case for me. It doesn't matter if it happens directly to me or to others, I try to learn from it and save others from it.

Ddog, I do believe our bodies just get "tired" to a higher extent post-Paxil, or maybe we notice it more because of the hell during withdrawal. I know when I become that fatigued and/or depressed, I know it's time for me to take a break even when I don't know the reasoning behind it. I have learned to stay very in tune with my body and brain because I don't want to go back to where I was...ever.

Oh, yeah. I also believe that JP will have his justice coming whether it's brought on by all of us affected or not. I believe there will be a time where he will have to answer to one particular Being while having to face all of us.
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Old 05-19-2006, 10:24 PM   #11
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I think about Paxil as the evil drug, and greed as the real motive of Big Pharma.
Why God allows it is another question...
the answer refers to any evil in the world.. the only reason it is allowed is to draw a greater good out of it.
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Old 05-19-2006, 10:26 PM   #12
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Oh, yeah. I also believe that JP will have his justice coming whether it's brought on by all of us affected or not. I believe there will be a time where he will have to answer to one particular Being while having to face all of us.
sadly, justice is required for our wrongs as well.....
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Old 05-19-2006, 11:38 PM   #13
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Yes, but I haven't ruined or almost ruined even 1% of the lives as his greed for money.
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Old 05-20-2006, 12:16 PM   #14
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There is a saying

God deliver me to a purpose greater than myself!

This process and the education it has thrown at us...in order to help or save others from the same fate is certainly that! A purpose greater than ourselves.

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Yes, but I haven't ruined or almost ruined even 1% of the lives as his greed for money.
but you never know, he may die with contrition, being sorry for what he did.. while we die with anger and a vengeful heart.. only God knows the heart of a man at that moment.. we have to forgive.. that doesn't change the fact this all needs to stop.. but we can't condemn anyone. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
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I don't think we're so much standing in judgement of the man but rather what is and has been happening. We can and I believe should hate the action and leave it up to god to deal with the man. If I and I'm sure others didn't believe that would happen he would have already been dealt with. I guess forgive the sinner but not the sin. I also believe we have all been called by God to do this work and to make known the dangers these drugs pose. Not doing what we have been called to do is also a sin. Each of us is capable to a different degree and should strive to reach that potential. He doesn't call the prepared he prepares the called.
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Old 05-20-2006, 03:41 PM   #17
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that's a hard thing for me is that i'm opposed by so many people who don't understand me, i always question if even God understands, or if i'm doing the right thing.. or just being stubborn and proud. But i know He wouldn't want us to use a treatment that would harm us after we've been harmed by it.
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Old 05-20-2006, 04:03 PM   #18
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Scott, you were harmed to motivate you to help educate others. All you can do is your best but don't ever underestimate the value of what you contribute here. Most of which will never be known by anyone except the person you helped and GOD. There are a lot of members here and even more guests that never post anything, they just read. Those are the people you reach that may potentially save a life or prevent the further deterioration of a life.

I also want to emphasize that whatever you or anyone else did while under the influence of these drugs and that includes withdrawal related behavior WILL NOT will not be held against you in the eyes of god. I believe that with all my heart!!!

I understand completely being met with doubt b those around you, I have 2 sisters a BIL and a nephew on these drugs and I'd be just as well off talking to a stump and that's just the beginning but I won't get into the rest of it.
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Old 05-20-2006, 04:33 PM   #19
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I don't believe that God "wants" any of us to have to deal with any of the trials of life. I do believe he wants us to be aware of the evils and do whatever we can to stop them. I guess I was raised that this was why we were here...to use what He has made available to us, not abuse what He has given us, and try to lead others to a better way. What would the point of Heaven be if it were perfect here?

Scott, you contribute so much to so many people. I know you are one of many people who have helped me through my past year. You are a teacher, a confidante, and a pillar of support because of what you have been and are still going through. Never doubt your worth or purpose to so many people.
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Scott, you contribute so much to so many people. I know you are one of many people who have helped me through my past year. You are a teacher, a confidante, and a pillar of support because of what you have been and are still going through. Never doubt your worth or purpose to so many people.
Very well said Delyn!! We love ya Scott!!
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