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CloneX · 05-31-2006, 06:55 AM

Seriously. This is annoying as s**t. Just look at the board and all the suffering people. Or those reports about big criminal pharma.

But what can we do ? What can we do to be a pain in the *** ?

We don't have much money. I wish we could produce a "paxil withdrawal" "commercial" and show it at the super bowl or something. But we can't. Aren't there any rich paxil addicts by the way ? Any celebreties ?

We need smart ideas. What could we do that doesn't cost much, doesn't take too much time but has a big effect ?

Man, I wish the "I love you" computer virus would have been a "Paxil withdrawal exists" virus. Criminal ? Sure. Just like big pharma.

A paxil protest is fine - but won't have that much effect unless there are like thousands of people protesting.

Maybe we should bump stickers on any doctor's door.

Smart brains. We need smart people.

Think!

Seriously, what can we do ?

Buxy`s Back · 05-31-2006, 07:04 AM

here here ,theres a few of us over here thinking of ways to get the true facts about gsks fix it drugs,the suffering and loss it causes and just how long out of your life it takes if you ever want to quit it.We havnt got very far at mo but heres hoping .But when you are still suffering physically,mentally and financially its not easy,but its got to be done,gsk.........you will not get away with all this,good luck clonex be great to hear if you do come up with anything

daisy232627 · 05-31-2006, 07:20 AM

I'll be waiting hear what ya come up with as well.....

Katesmom · 05-31-2006, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CloneX

What could we do that doesn't cost much, doesn't take too much time but has a big effect ?

Dude, how do you think terrorism was born?

scotty · 05-31-2006, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Katesmom

Dude, how do you think terrorism was born?

.....waving to the FBI and CIA!....

Just kidding!

rdjanis · 05-31-2006, 10:06 AM

Charlie · 05-31-2006, 12:18 PM

X
I agree that this is very frustrating and the lack of funds does pose a problem. We will change things one person at a time because we have limited access to the media.

I'm personally still working on the CD project and would still love to include as many stories as I can get. Will it make a difference? I have no idea but it makes me feel a bit better knowing I've tried. The stories don't have to be the work of a pro, they just need to be true blood and guts this is what happened to me.

Victory will be a combination of all the little things rather than one big thing.

Delynbetter · 05-31-2006, 08:35 PM

Nothing is not an option for me. We're doing a lot on here, getting the word out, letting thousands of people know that they are not alone.

Katesmom · 05-31-2006, 08:45 PM

You know (she says smiling at the nice Homeland Security Agent she invited to this thread

) I saw on our local news tonight this guy who is bicycling across America to raise awareness about epilepsy because his son has it. If you have someone with you calling the press in every podunk market along the way, it would make the news in a lot of places. It got a good three minutes of airtime on our local news. The networks may be indebted to BigPharma, but the affiliates are dependent on local car dealerships. Grassroots is the way to go.

rdjanis · 05-31-2006, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott

what can we do?..... nothing...... we're written off as legitimately mentally ill.

Only if one allows it to happen.... stop with that negativity Scott. Sometimes I wonder if you realize just how much you do and accomplish here at pp!! That IS doing something, it is not only bringing awareness but helping out others who are unfortunately in the same boat.

Scott · 05-31-2006, 09:00 PM

unless we have huge numbers... or maybe big boobs like erin brochovich?
i lost 70 pounds since quitting ssri's, i don't have big boobs anymore.......

can you imagine the ridicule and laughs at the expense of the small group outside of gsk at the last protest?

The condescention could even be felt... it's like the grown up patting the kid on the head, handing him cookies and drinks saying "have your fun, you're not accomplishing a thing here". That's what i thought of as they brought out drinks for the group.

Scott · 05-31-2006, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rdjanis

Only if one allows it to happen.... stop with that negativity Scott. Sometimes I wonder if you realize just how much you do and accomplish here at pp!! That IS doing something, it is not only bringing awareness but helping out others who are unfortunately in the same boat.

wll yeah that.. i was thinking mainly of drug companies directly... supposedly 20,000,000 people in the u.s. alone are on antidepressants... we're a message board with 416 active users. That translates into a laughing stock.. if they give us the time of day.

scotty · 05-31-2006, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott

can you imagine the ridicule and laughs at the expense of the small group outside of gsk at the last protest?

Au contraire!!!! WE had amazing news coverage and while we were a small group we talked to HUNDREDS of people on the street... and they told two friends etc...... GSK isn't laughing at us( I know this for a fact) they want us to shut up and go away, NOT going to happen!

Charlie · 05-31-2006, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott

unless we have huge numbers... or maybe big boobs like erin brochovich?

can you imagine the ridicule and laughs at the expense of the small group outside of gsk at the last protest?

We were actually treated pretty well and I could care less what they say inside the building. We had employees and security guards ask questions that seemed sincere. Law enforcement asked questions and I think they were somewhat shocked at what they found out. I had one s.a. guy ask me if the guys in the pin striped suits had been down yet. I looked him in the eye and said not yet but when they get ready I'll be right down there and pointed at the place we were set up. I was dead serious when I said it and that is exactly how I feel.

I'll stop now before I get all worked up and can't sleep. If they think for one Da-- minute that I'm afraid of them they are crazy as He--

Delynbetter · 05-31-2006, 09:17 PM

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We were actually treated prey well

Freudian slip? Prey? I guess it depends on who the hunter is.

As far as the rest of us being labeled mentally ill...I may be labeled mental, but they don't want to push me to "mental". Besides, we have plenty of people here who have only witnessed the horrors to back us up.

Charlie · 05-31-2006, 09:27 PM

Not so much a slip as it is a testament to my inability to type.

It's worse when I get all festered up.

Just for the record there isn't a single person here that I wouldn't be proud to have beside me in a debate or any other confrontation where they were forced to back up their story. Their lies will only take them so far but your/ our truth will stand under pressure.

scotty · 05-31-2006, 09:44 PM

I don't care if it's Charlie and me standing on a corner.. I'll be there talking!!

Charlie · 05-31-2006, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by scotty

I don't care if it's Charlie and me standing on a corner.. I'll be there talking!!

And you such a quiet person.

Maybe Pedro would bring us some cake.

Delynbetter · 05-31-2006, 09:58 PM

I'm not sure about standing next to that Laurie chick...

scotty · 05-31-2006, 09:59 PM

Hey, Hey!!! You and hubby owe me dinner!! Sure, a hurricane stopped you from coming!!!

Delynbetter · 05-31-2006, 10:04 PM

Heh heh I'm not sure HUBBY wants us standing next to each other, surrounded by all of our friends from here, especially with him present! ROFLMAO

scotty · 05-31-2006, 10:05 PM

OH, that mental picture just made my day!!!!

Hell, just you and Ryan together is dangerous!!!

Delynbetter · 05-31-2006, 10:07 PM

No, we're FUN! (in a sick, pissed off, gonna whoop some butt sort of way

)

scotty · 05-31-2006, 10:10 PM

He loves you girl!! Now that you are both farther from withdrawal.. watch out!!!

Scott · 05-31-2006, 10:23 PM

laurie would be talking even if it was her by herself on the corner

05-31-2006, 06:55 AM	#1
CloneX Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 294	--> What can we do ? <-- Seriously. This is annoying as st. Just look at the board and all the suffering people. Or those reports about big criminal pharma. But what can we do ? What can we do to be a pain in the * ? We don't have much money. I wish we could produce a "paxil withdrawal" "commercial" and show it at the super bowl or something. But we can't. Aren't there any rich paxil addicts by the way ? Any celebreties ? We need smart ideas. What could we do that doesn't cost much, doesn't take too much time but has a big effect ? Man, I wish the "I love you" computer virus would have been a "Paxil withdrawal exists" virus. Criminal ? Sure. Just like big pharma. A paxil protest is fine - but won't have that much effect unless there are like thousands of people protesting. Maybe we should bump stickers on any doctor's door. Smart brains. We need smart people. Think! Seriously, what can we do ?

05-31-2006, 07:04 AM	#2
Buxy`s Back Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: grimsby,england Posts: 4,463	Re: --> What can we do ? <-- here here ,theres a few of us over here thinking of ways to get the true facts about gsks fix it drugs,the suffering and loss it causes and just how long out of your life it takes if you ever want to quit it.We havnt got very far at mo but heres hoping .But when you are still suffering physically,mentally and financially its not easy,but its got to be done,gsk.........you will not get away with all this,good luck clonex be great to hear if you do come up with anything __________________ September 2009, not in severe hell just moderate hell, still recovering Joanne. LITTLE EVIL MEN HIDE BEHIND BIG COMPANY NAMES................QUOTE BY......MOI

05-31-2006, 07:20 AM	#3
daisy232627 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: dallas, texas Posts: 226	Re: --> What can we do ? <-- I'll be waiting hear what ya come up with as well..... __________________ started Paxil 20mg 07/01 weaned 3mo Paxil free 08/02 back on 10/02 for panic/anxiety tried wean again 05/03 too quick failed under doc's instructions (didn't know it was too quick, I thought I was just screwed for life) tried to wean again sometime prior to finding pp-still thinking I'm screwed 06/03 Paxil CR 25mgs 2004 changed to generic 20mg costs less 03/06 back to Paxil CR 25mg-Panic/anxiety 01/2008 start weaning AGAIN 03/2009 Paxil 10mg

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rdjanis "has a lavender scented keyboard" Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ontario Posts: 22,238	Re: --> What can we do ? <-- Lol! __________________ Rita

05-31-2006, 12:18 PM	#7
Charlie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 7,561	Re: --> What can we do ? <-- X I agree that this is very frustrating and the lack of funds does pose a problem. We will change things one person at a time because we have limited access to the media. I'm personally still working on the CD project and would still love to include as many stories as I can get. Will it make a difference? I have no idea but it makes me feel a bit better knowing I've tried. The stories don't have to be the work of a pro, they just need to be true blood and guts this is what happened to me. Victory will be a combination of all the little things rather than one big thing. __________________ The truth is the truth even if no one believes it, and a lie is a lie even if everyone believes it." Knowledge speaks ....... Wisdom listens Charlie www.ThePaxilProtest.com

05-31-2006, 08:35 PM	#8
Delynbetter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 10,518	Re: --> What can we do ? <-- Nothing is not an option for me. We're doing a lot on here, getting the word out, letting thousands of people know that they are not alone. __________________ Diagnosed anxiety/panic disorder without agoraphobia 1989. Talk/music therapy. Major anxiety and mild depression in 2004 from situational stressors. Began Paxil CR 25mg, 10/04. Quit cold-turkey 5/5/05 as demanded by doctor. Found paxilprogress 5/17/05. Began Paxil CR 12.5mg 5/17/05. Weaned 4 1/2 months. During taper - anx/panic/depression, manic episodes, agoraphobia, suicidal ideation, many other physical symptoms. Paxil-free 10/2/05.

05-31-2006, 08:45 PM	#9
Katesmom Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 13,706	Re: --> What can we do ? <-- You know (she says smiling at the nice Homeland Security Agent she invited to this thread ) I saw on our local news tonight this guy who is bicycling across America to raise awareness about epilepsy because his son has it. If you have someone with you calling the press in every podunk market along the way, it would make the news in a lot of places. It got a good three minutes of airtime on our local news. The networks may be indebted to BigPharma, but the affiliates are dependent on local car dealerships. Grassroots is the way to go. __________________ Katesmom aka Kim started Paxil Oct. 2003 for PIH Paxil free since 19 Jul 2005 ". . .the cruelest lies are often told without a word. . .the kindest truths are often spoken, never heard." -- Ben Folds

05-31-2006, 09:00 PM	#11
Scott Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: somewhere in between Posts: 11,616	Re: --> What can we do ? <-- unless we have huge numbers... or maybe big boobs like erin brochovich? i lost 70 pounds since quitting ssri's, i don't have big boobs anymore....... can you imagine the ridicule and laughs at the expense of the small group outside of gsk at the last protest? The condescention could even be felt... it's like the grown up patting the kid on the head, handing him cookies and drinks saying "have your fun, you're not accomplishing a thing here". That's what i thought of as they brought out drinks for the group. __________________ Scott aka Scott What has happened to it all? Crazy, some are saying Where is the life that I recognize? Gone away But I won't cry for yesterday There's an ordinary world Somehow I have to find And as I try to make my way To the ordinary world I will learn to survive surviving an ssri reaction alternative anxiety treatments Last edited by Scott : 05-31-2006 at 10:23 PM.

05-31-2006, 09:27 PM	#16
Charlie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 7,561	Re: --> What can we do ? <-- Not so much a slip as it is a testament to my inability to type. It's worse when I get all festered up. Just for the record there isn't a single person here that I wouldn't be proud to have beside me in a debate or any other confrontation where they were forced to back up their story. Their lies will only take them so far but your/ our truth will stand under pressure. __________________ The truth is the truth even if no one believes it, and a lie is a lie even if everyone believes it." Knowledge speaks ....... Wisdom listens Charlie www.ThePaxilProtest.com

05-31-2006, 09:44 PM	#17
scotty Administrator & Advocate Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: new jersey Posts: 38,588	Re: --> What can we do ? <-- I don't care if it's Charlie and me standing on a corner.. I'll be there talking!! __________________ AKA Laurie "If you can find a path with no obstacles, it probably doesn't lead anywhere." ~Frank A. Clark

05-31-2006, 09:58 PM	#19
Delynbetter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 10,518	Re: --> What can we do ? <-- I'm not sure about standing next to that Laurie chick... __________________ Diagnosed anxiety/panic disorder without agoraphobia 1989. Talk/music therapy. Major anxiety and mild depression in 2004 from situational stressors. Began Paxil CR 25mg, 10/04. Quit cold-turkey 5/5/05 as demanded by doctor. Found paxilprogress 5/17/05. Began Paxil CR 12.5mg 5/17/05. Weaned 4 1/2 months. During taper - anx/panic/depression, manic episodes, agoraphobia, suicidal ideation, many other physical symptoms. Paxil-free 10/2/05.

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scotty Administrator & Advocate Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: new jersey Posts: 38,588	Re: --> What can we do ? <-- Hey, Hey!!! You and hubby owe me dinner!! Sure, a hurricane stopped you from coming!!! __________________ AKA Laurie "If you can find a path with no obstacles, it probably doesn't lead anywhere." ~Frank A. Clark

05-31-2006, 10:04 PM	#21
Delynbetter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 10,518	Re: --> What can we do ? <-- Heh heh I'm not sure HUBBY wants us standing next to each other, surrounded by all of our friends from here, especially with him present! ROFLMAO __________________ Diagnosed anxiety/panic disorder without agoraphobia 1989. Talk/music therapy. Major anxiety and mild depression in 2004 from situational stressors. Began Paxil CR 25mg, 10/04. Quit cold-turkey 5/5/05 as demanded by doctor. Found paxilprogress 5/17/05. Began Paxil CR 12.5mg 5/17/05. Weaned 4 1/2 months. During taper - anx/panic/depression, manic episodes, agoraphobia, suicidal ideation, many other physical symptoms. Paxil-free 10/2/05.

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scotty Administrator & Advocate Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: new jersey Posts: 38,588	Re: --> What can we do ? <-- OH, that mental picture just made my day!!!! Hell, just you and Ryan together is dangerous!!! __________________ AKA Laurie "If you can find a path with no obstacles, it probably doesn't lead anywhere." ~Frank A. Clark

05-31-2006, 10:07 PM	#23
Delynbetter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 10,518	Re: --> What can we do ? <-- No, we're FUN! (in a sick, pissed off, gonna whoop some butt sort of way ) __________________ Diagnosed anxiety/panic disorder without agoraphobia 1989. Talk/music therapy. Major anxiety and mild depression in 2004 from situational stressors. Began Paxil CR 25mg, 10/04. Quit cold-turkey 5/5/05 as demanded by doctor. Found paxilprogress 5/17/05. Began Paxil CR 12.5mg 5/17/05. Weaned 4 1/2 months. During taper - anx/panic/depression, manic episodes, agoraphobia, suicidal ideation, many other physical symptoms. Paxil-free 10/2/05.

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scotty Administrator & Advocate Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: new jersey Posts: 38,588	Re: --> What can we do ? <-- He loves you girl!! Now that you are both farther from withdrawal.. watch out!!! __________________ AKA Laurie "If you can find a path with no obstacles, it probably doesn't lead anywhere." ~Frank A. Clark

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Scott Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: somewhere in between Posts: 11,616	Re: --> What can we do ? <-- laurie would be talking even if it was her by herself on the corner __________________ Scott aka Scott What has happened to it all? Crazy, some are saying Where is the life that I recognize? Gone away But I won't cry for yesterday There's an ordinary world Somehow I have to find And as I try to make my way To the ordinary world I will learn to survive surviving an ssri reaction alternative anxiety treatments

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