started withdrawal on my own

ringo8486 · 06-15-2006, 09:37 AM

started withdrawal on my own from 25mg of paxil cr 6 days ago. went to 3/4 of a pill so down to 18.75. I tried several months ago to go from 25 to 12.5 and got very sick after about 6-7 days. I have a couple of questions:

Does the withdrawal affect mood so that you could lose your temper very easily? Can this happen as soon as 6 days after reducing dosage?

I am starting to have some nausea and moderate to severe headaches which I experienced last time. However, they are bearable right now whereas when I cut the dose in half they were not.

Can some one help me understand the effect on mood or if they have had similar experiences, let me know. This is the first time I have posted since January, but I am so tired and wiped out all the time I decided it had to be the paxil. I had some issues with severe depression but through therapy I feel much better now and I am ready to get back to a more normal life. My Doc says it is the depression that is making me tired and not the paxil. But I no longer feel depressed and I am ready to get on with LIVING so in my mind it has to be the paxil. Please - comments??
Thanks
Ringo

Delynbetter · 06-15-2006, 09:46 AM

Withdrawal effects every aspect of your mood and too many physical aspects to go into in one post. My fuse was never as short as it was during withdrawal. Increased was anxiety, depression, anger, new symptoms of major agoraphobia. Were any of your symptoms you experienced before Paxil as bad as they are now? Most likely not. Points straight at the drug.

I came down with the Paxil-flu within 2 days. My anger-management was out the door within the week.

Paxil made me incredibly sleepy. I continued to have to take naps during withdrawal because my body was so messed up trying to correct itself from what Paxil had done to it.

It takes quite a while, although there is no specific time frame, but it does get better with time. No one has ever had a Paxil-deficiency. Continue with your small drops, stabilizing each time and only dropping when you are ready. The day will come when you think to yourself, "Wow. Hi, me!"

Congratulations on your beginning and best wishes for strength, patience and recovery as soon as possible!

pantala · 06-15-2006, 10:10 AM

Ringo,
I remember your previous posts...
Many people experience mood changes when tapering and after stopping: anger/rage is very common. Also: sadness, depression, anxiety and more. But also positive changes: being able to enjoy colors, laughter, and music. These changes can happen within a day, a few days, or weeks. Or months. For some, the emotional roller-coaster is worse than the physical symptoms. There is really no way to tell what your own personal experience will be. BUT, it's a pretty sure bet that someone on these boards will have had, or are having an experience similar to yours. That's why coming here often and posting can be so therapeutic. You will never be alone here.
Best of luck,
Kathryn

scotty · 06-15-2006, 10:26 AM

Ringo, irritability is SOOOOO common! Ryan would tell off people at the drop of a hat.... even strangers on the street!

Llewdrac · 06-15-2006, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ringo8486

Does the withdrawal affect mood so that you could lose your temper very easily? Can this happen as soon as 6 days after reducing dosage?

Yes. <snarl! Snarl!! SNAP!!!>

Amaya's Nana · 06-15-2006, 10:54 AM

Mood swings?? Nooooooooooooo..................more like mood GIANT TRAPEZES!!!! The anger/rage were the worst for me. I'm still very short fused. If something makes me mad, I totally lose control and snap my head off at them. I have to say though its getting much better than it was in the beginning. Hang in there. This is a bumpy ride but the bumps get less and less. Just continue the very slow taper and be as patient as you can with yourself.

Homerbcool · 06-15-2006, 10:57 AM

mood swings..here are a few I the other day

Llewdrac · 06-15-2006, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Junebug's Baby

I'm still very short fused. If something makes me mad, I totally lose control and snap my head off at them.

I actually haven't lost it on anyone, yet.

What I have to do waaaaaay more often though is stop myself before I open my mouth. (or put fingers to keyboard.)

When on Paxil, I would just sorta cruise, and nothing much would bother me.

That is no longer the case. (even though I'm not fully off of it, yet.

)

I'm much more 'quick tempered.' Actually, every emotion is much closer, if that makes any sense.

Another thing is that I can no longer trust my guideposts, and have to do 'reality checks' with others far more often than I used to. (Like having to ask my wife: Was it appropriate and reasonable to be really pissed off in said situation.)

So.... you're definitely not alone.

Amaya's Nana · 06-15-2006, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Llewdrac

Another thing is that I can no longer trust my guideposts, and have to do 'reality checks' with others far more often than I used to. (Like having to ask my wife: Was it appropriate and reasonable to be really pissed off in said situation.)

So.... you're definitely not alone.

You're doing much better than I am in this regard. I don't even ask if it was appropriate......................I just let it rip and then regret it later. I've cried lots and lots about that "loss of control." Maybe I should say affirmations every morning "I have control of my anger, I have control of my anger, I have control of my anger."

06-15-2006, 04:47 PM

Paxil and withdrawal can induce a lethargy that is quite unlike depression lethargy...A depression lethargy is more of a "fed up" feeling, but paxil lethargy is all consuming, you literally feel "brain dead"...

Personally i think its a kind of adrenal burn out...but who knows?...Paxil can cause all sorts of problems....

ringo8486 · 06-15-2006, 04:50 PM

just wanted to say thanks for all those who replied. i lost it at work twice today, really lost control of my temper over basically nothing, but it was about things and not at someone so that is good i guess. i have been cruising on paxil for the last 9 months and i am tired of the cruise. i wasn't sure what to expect other than the nausea, headaches and physical stuff. So i probably will be posting more looking for support and hopefully as time goes by offering support to others.

I am weaning against my doctor's wishes as he said i need a few more months on this stuff but i want to "feel" again if that makes any sense???? we have discussed it and I had asked for 12.5 mg CR to make the dosage drops less but he has not come through with that. So I am stuck at dropping down at 6.25 mgs (1/4 of pill).

By the way, Happy Father's day to everyone out there. I have two son's who have been very supportive of me in the last year and I have mellowed through therapy and have become a better Fathert. I have a feeling I may return to my old ways at times during the withdrawal - short tempered, impatient, angry, etc. Do I need to let them know that I am doing this and that these emotions are temporary? They are temporary aren't they??????

Thanks
Ringo
Ringo

eileen · 06-15-2006, 05:04 PM

Yes Ringo, they are temporary and they will pass. I'm on Paxil well over ten years and my doc told me a few more months. I knew he would never prescribe for me to get off and I got a new doc. I'm going very slowly after so long and I have lost my temper before WD and in WD. My husband told me it was all justified. Good Luck on your journey.
eileen

babs · 06-15-2006, 05:21 PM

I lost my temper all the time in withdrawal. It's very normal. Yes, I think you should speak to your sons and let them know what you're going through, that you may get angry but it's not their fault and it will get better. Children tend to think everything is their fault so it's important to let them know this is body chemistry, not them. Good for you for deciding to get off Paxil, and your doctor sounds like a jerk.

Llewdrac · 06-15-2006, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ringo8486

i want to "feel" again if that makes any sense????

Makes perfect sense!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ringo8486

Do I need to let them know that I am doing this and that these emotions are temporary?

Really excellent idea! It always helps to keep our loved one's 'in the loop.'

06-15-2006, 09:37 AM	#1
ringo8486 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 47	started withdrawal on my own started withdrawal on my own from 25mg of paxil cr 6 days ago. went to 3/4 of a pill so down to 18.75. I tried several months ago to go from 25 to 12.5 and got very sick after about 6-7 days. I have a couple of questions: Does the withdrawal affect mood so that you could lose your temper very easily? Can this happen as soon as 6 days after reducing dosage? I am starting to have some nausea and moderate to severe headaches which I experienced last time. However, they are bearable right now whereas when I cut the dose in half they were not. Can some one help me understand the effect on mood or if they have had similar experiences, let me know. This is the first time I have posted since January, but I am so tired and wiped out all the time I decided it had to be the paxil. I had some issues with severe depression but through therapy I feel much better now and I am ready to get back to a more normal life. My Doc says it is the depression that is making me tired and not the paxil. But I no longer feel depressed and I am ready to get on with LIVING so in my mind it has to be the paxil. Please - comments?? Thanks Ringo __________________ Diagnosed with Severe Depression and Major Anxiety Disorder - 9/2005 Started on 12.5mg Paxil on 9/23/2005 and Klonopin 0.5mg 2x/day. Paxil increased to 25mg 4 weeks later Wellbutrin 300mg added in late November quit after 2 weeks As of 1/5/2006 - Paxil at 25 mg, Klonopin 0.5 1x/day. As 0f 9/2006 - Paxil at 12.5 mg Halfway there!!! 9/3/2007 to 9.375 - 3/4 tab 9/16/2007 to 6.25 - 1/2 tab 10/15/2007 to 3.125 - 1/4 tab 11/8/2007 - 0 mg finally!!!!!!!!!!

06-15-2006, 09:46 AM	#2
Delynbetter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 10,518	Re: started withdrawal on my own Withdrawal effects every aspect of your mood and too many physical aspects to go into in one post. My fuse was never as short as it was during withdrawal. Increased was anxiety, depression, anger, new symptoms of major agoraphobia. Were any of your symptoms you experienced before Paxil as bad as they are now? Most likely not. Points straight at the drug. I came down with the Paxil-flu within 2 days. My anger-management was out the door within the week. Paxil made me incredibly sleepy. I continued to have to take naps during withdrawal because my body was so messed up trying to correct itself from what Paxil had done to it. It takes quite a while, although there is no specific time frame, but it does get better with time. No one has ever had a Paxil-deficiency. Continue with your small drops, stabilizing each time and only dropping when you are ready. The day will come when you think to yourself, "Wow. Hi, me!" Congratulations on your beginning and best wishes for strength, patience and recovery as soon as possible! __________________ Diagnosed anxiety/panic disorder without agoraphobia 1989. Talk/music therapy. Major anxiety and mild depression in 2004 from situational stressors. Began Paxil CR 25mg, 10/04. Quit cold-turkey 5/5/05 as demanded by doctor. Found paxilprogress 5/17/05. Began Paxil CR 12.5mg 5/17/05. Weaned 4 1/2 months. During taper - anx/panic/depression, manic episodes, agoraphobia, suicidal ideation, many other physical symptoms. Paxil-free 10/2/05.

06-15-2006, 10:10 AM	#3
pantala Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: WDM, Iowa Posts: 441	Re: started withdrawal on my own Ringo, I remember your previous posts... Many people experience mood changes when tapering and after stopping: anger/rage is very common. Also: sadness, depression, anxiety and more. But also positive changes: being able to enjoy colors, laughter, and music. These changes can happen within a day, a few days, or weeks. Or months. For some, the emotional roller-coaster is worse than the physical symptoms. There is really no way to tell what your own personal experience will be. BUT, it's a pretty sure bet that someone on these boards will have had, or are having an experience similar to yours. That's why coming here often and posting can be so therapeutic. You will never be alone here. Best of luck, Kathryn __________________ "That which is like unto itself is drawn" - Abraham-Hicks, The Law of Attraction Family member of two who withdrew from Zoloft.

06-15-2006, 10:26 AM	#4
scotty Administrator & Advocate Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: new jersey Posts: 38,590	Re: started withdrawal on my own Ringo, irritability is SOOOOO common! Ryan would tell off people at the drop of a hat.... even strangers on the street! __________________ AKA Laurie "If you can find a path with no obstacles, it probably doesn't lead anywhere." ~Frank A. Clark

06-15-2006, 10:54 AM	#6
Amaya's Nana An "A bucket" gal! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 6,371	Re: started withdrawal on my own Mood swings?? Nooooooooooooo..................more like mood GIANT TRAPEZES!!!! The anger/rage were the worst for me. I'm still very short fused. If something makes me mad, I totally lose control and snap my head off at them. I have to say though its getting much better than it was in the beginning. Hang in there. This is a bumpy ride but the bumps get less and less. Just continue the very slow taper and be as patient as you can with yourself. __________________ a/k/a Lisa PAXIL FREE AS OF 3/18/06! Fully recovered! Currently weaning Klonopin - down to .25 mg - Onward and Upward!!!!!! Focus your attention on the here and now. Recognize it for what it is: the one moment of the only life you will ever have that you truly possess. Rare is the individual who has come to completely accept that the past is no more than a memory and the future an assumption about unborn events.

06-15-2006, 10:57 AM	#7
Homerbcool "colors outside the lines" Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,949	Re: started withdrawal on my own mood swings..here are a few I the other day __________________ That's one of the curses of anxiety--we make possibilities into certainties.....Tim

06-15-2006, 04:47 PM	#10
Redking Posts: n/a	Re: started withdrawal on my own Paxil and withdrawal can induce a lethargy that is quite unlike depression lethargy...A depression lethargy is more of a "fed up" feeling, but paxil lethargy is all consuming, you literally feel "brain dead"... Personally i think its a kind of adrenal burn out...but who knows?...Paxil can cause all sorts of problems....

06-15-2006, 04:50 PM	#11
ringo8486 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 47	Re: started withdrawal on my own just wanted to say thanks for all those who replied. i lost it at work twice today, really lost control of my temper over basically nothing, but it was about things and not at someone so that is good i guess. i have been cruising on paxil for the last 9 months and i am tired of the cruise. i wasn't sure what to expect other than the nausea, headaches and physical stuff. So i probably will be posting more looking for support and hopefully as time goes by offering support to others. I am weaning against my doctor's wishes as he said i need a few more months on this stuff but i want to "feel" again if that makes any sense???? we have discussed it and I had asked for 12.5 mg CR to make the dosage drops less but he has not come through with that. So I am stuck at dropping down at 6.25 mgs (1/4 of pill). By the way, Happy Father's day to everyone out there. I have two son's who have been very supportive of me in the last year and I have mellowed through therapy and have become a better Fathert. I have a feeling I may return to my old ways at times during the withdrawal - short tempered, impatient, angry, etc. Do I need to let them know that I am doing this and that these emotions are temporary? They are temporary aren't they?????? Thanks Ringo Ringo __________________ Diagnosed with Severe Depression and Major Anxiety Disorder - 9/2005 Started on 12.5mg Paxil on 9/23/2005 and Klonopin 0.5mg 2x/day. Paxil increased to 25mg 4 weeks later Wellbutrin 300mg added in late November quit after 2 weeks As of 1/5/2006 - Paxil at 25 mg, Klonopin 0.5 1x/day. As 0f 9/2006 - Paxil at 12.5 mg Halfway there!!! 9/3/2007 to 9.375 - 3/4 tab 9/16/2007 to 6.25 - 1/2 tab 10/15/2007 to 3.125 - 1/4 tab 11/8/2007 - 0 mg finally!!!!!!!!!!

06-15-2006, 05:04 PM	#12
eileen Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 9,272	Re: started withdrawal on my own Yes Ringo, they are temporary and they will pass. I'm on Paxil well over ten years and my doc told me a few more months. I knew he would never prescribe for me to get off and I got a new doc. I'm going very slowly after so long and I have lost my temper before WD and in WD. My husband told me it was all justified. Good Luck on your journey. eileen __________________ June 13/07-reducing by .05mg. every four weeks to present. October 29/08-Paxil Free 2006-Cut Trazodone from 150mg to 100mg. Sept 07/09- Trazodone 75mg. Started this journey of horror with AD's in 1994, Put on Paxil 30 mg in Feb/1995 I will survive!

06-15-2006, 05:21 PM	#13
babs Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 4,939	Re: started withdrawal on my own I lost my temper all the time in withdrawal. It's very normal. Yes, I think you should speak to your sons and let them know what you're going through, that you may get angry but it's not their fault and it will get better. Children tend to think everything is their fault so it's important to let them know this is body chemistry, not them. Good for you for deciding to get off Paxil, and your doctor sounds like a jerk. __________________ Babs Paxil 20mg 1994-2005 2 failed attempts to quit Tapered Jan-April 2005 Paxil-free since May 1, 2005 "Glinda the Good Witch informed her that she had the power to go home all along; all she had to do was click her heels together. Why hadn't she told Dorothy that in the first place? Because, explains Glinda, she wouldn't have believed it, she had to learn it for herself."

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