skipping days

[mralex666]

hey guys, i missed taking my 5mg for 2days and on the 3rd day i was at wk and by mid morning i felt fkn drained,tired, like i played a 60min football game.
is that just a side effect from this pax~hell? or was it me?

[LCrawford67]

Nope, you sent yourself right into w/d. Have you resumed taking it, or do you take it at night?

[mralex666]

Originally Posted by lcrawford67

Nope, you sent yourself right into w/d. Have you resumed taking it, or do you take it at night?

i take it when i remember mainly around 3pm or so.. i'm taking 5mg right now half of the 10mg..

[LCrawford67]

Correct. I'm gathering, you were stable on 5 mgs, so I'd continue right there. But, don't do that again!!!

[punky]

Yeah skipping days is a way to really put yourself into the thick of it. If you're having trouble remembering to take it, make a note of it on a calender or something like that. You can always tell when you've missed a dose. At least I know that I can.

[mralex666]

so the feeling of being tired was a side effect? even at the lowest dose that i'm on?

[Katesmom]

For me, fatigue was my number one worst withdrawal side effect. Absolutely devestating.

[bfw1220]

its definiately from skipping a dose. i used to do that occasionally and think it was no big deal. after knowing what i do now and looking back to the way i felt everything ties together. paxil sucks!!

[Charlie]

If you have trouble remembering you might get one of those 7 day pill boxes and put it where you can't miss it. Skipping is bad, VERY bad.

[Homerbcool]

..but if you are in "poop out" why is it still bad or is it?..I am in poop out dropped my dose to 5mg..and other then brain wiggles, everything sems okay...this si the whole area I dont really understand..poop out and its affect, if any on tapering off this ****...

[LCrawford67]

This is where I get confused too, Homer. Maybe poop out is a blessing in disguise for people like us.

[Charlie]

Just my opinion but
Addiction is not only the need to take something to feel good but the need to take something to keep from feeling bad. In Paxil Poop Out or PPO the drug doesn't make you feel better but the absence of the drug makes you feel worse. Thus the need to tapper just like everyone else.

[LCrawford67]

Well crap...that's not the answer I wanted! But, I accept it. This is poison in our bodies and it needs to come out!

[Jane]

Seems like I was noticing little things all along that just wern't right while on the paxil for 2yrs. Occasional headaches, fatigue, hot flashes, leg pain etc. Don't know if it was ppo, but those very same symptoms increased in severity, along with a barage of others, after begining tapering. Anyone else notice this?

[mralex666]

wow! i never thought 5mg would effect you in this way.
**** i think i'll just take it till i die,
this way no side effects..LOL

[LCrawford67]

I'm tellin ya...sometimes, it's trying to figure out the lesser of two evils.

[Iksfreundin]

I miss ONE day, and I am thrown into a tailspin. I have about 40 hours before I start REALLY hurting - mostly a "paxil headache", where it feels like a little golfball is in my brain sloshing about, then fuzzy head, decreased motor function, perception problems, exhaustion, anger, and heart palpitations.

Yeah, missing doses is bad news.

[paxilgirl]

Mralex: ooooooooooo, your avatar would have been a perfect representation of what I felt like during my WD.....especially when I woke up in the morning.

[mralex666]

Originally Posted by paxilgirl

Mralex: ooooooooooo, your avatar would have been a perfect representation of what I felt like during my WD.....especially when I woke up in the morning.

damn! you must of felt like a crimson ghost..LOL!!!

[feelin'_wiggy]

Originally Posted by Jane

Seems like I was noticing little things all along that just wern't right while on the paxil for 2yrs. Occasional headaches, fatigue, hot flashes, leg pain etc. Don't know if it was ppo, but those very same symptoms increased in severity, along with a barage of others, after begining tapering. Anyone else notice this?

Jane, I can relate to that. I was on it for a total of eight years. No bad side effects the first six years (except for a period when I was on 60mgs), but I did have the things you mention, plus a few, like numbness and tingling in my hands each morning. They didn't start all at once, but developed "along the way" , as you say. I kinda sensed they were Paxil-related, but wasn't sure. After 5-6 years, the symptoms progressed, and I developed a low-grade -- but very real -- depression, terrible fatigue, apathy, and lack of concentration. I didn't know anything about poop-out, but I was sure it was Paxil-related. My signature tells the rest of the story. Doctor wouldn't listen, more drugs, stay in the psych ward, bipolar dx, and two failed attempts to quit.

I've heard of a couple of people who seem to go into sudden full blown wd while they're still taking it. But for the most part, it's like Jane described. You get many of the same symptoms, but they're not as severe as when you start to taper. And some symptoms didn't show up at all until I started tapering, like zaps, the "flies" in my head, super-hyper-sensitivity to light and sound, "brain wiggles", relentless anxiety, insomnia, and such.

I have a hunch that the reason I was able to do a relatively fast taper and recover in a year is because I was in wd for two years already when I started my final taper. But the real healing did not begin until I was completely off of it.

[Amaya's Nana]

Originally Posted by feelin'_wiggy

I have a hunch that the reason I was able to do a relatively fast taper and recover in a year is because I was in wd for two years already when I started my final taper. But the real healing did not begin until I was completely off of it.

I tend to agree with this statement. I took Paxil for a continued 18 months after it started to poop out. Had been on it for almost 8 years at that time but started to have some anxiety and panic attacks that had abated with Paxil, insomnia, and just a feeling of "out of controllness." It was bad enough to go to the doctor and that's when the switching debacle happened. I finally ended up in such a state of agitation, couldn't sleep, couldn't eat, down in the bucket depressed I went to Dr. Moron who took me off cold turkey last October and switched me to Wellbutrin without weaning the Paxil and then all hell broke lose. But, after I got back on in December at 10 mg., my wean was relatively quick for a 9-year user (3 months) and I haven't suffered nearly as badly as a lot of people. Although it has not been by any means a picnic, I've been able to work every day and have had some good windows early in the withdrawal. I wonder if during that 18-month poop out period my brain was working diligently to come back to balance? Very interesting theory.

[Jane]

This is such a strange drug...It appears to be masking and creating symtoms at the same time. With both of you, jbb, and fw, the longer periods of continuence and higher doses, seems to mimic the shorter, and lower dose, eventually. The body seems to be in rejection of the side effects, or withdrawal from drug to some extent over any given period of time. That happy medium is so short lived.

[Llewdrac]

Originally Posted by Charlie

Just my opinion but
Addiction is not only the need to take something to feel good but the need to take something to keep from feeling bad. In Paxil Poop Out or PPO the drug doesn't make you feel better but the absence of the drug makes you feel worse.

OMG, so true... This makes me think of the last days of my drinking, where I would go from a 'bitty buzz to falling-down drunk in seconds... I no longer even had a few minutes of the 'magic euphoria...'

In the end, the drug didn't make me feel good anymore, but the absence of the drug made me, in the following order:

1) Be afraid that I was going to die...
2) Wish I would just die and get it over with...
3) Be afraid that I wasn't going to die.

The difference? Alcohol withdrawal was over in 72 hours... Paxil withdrawal just goes on and on and on....

[LCrawford67]

It's amazing when GSK and docs say that this doesn't last but 2-3 at the most. If that was the friggin case, we'd all be off this crap by now! I only wish it only lasted as long as heroin or alcohol w/d.