feeling bad

[diana.p]

I feel like I have a terrible disease and I am going to die. I am taking antibiotic for UTI for 7 days and my body rejects any type of antibiotic. Did anyone died during w/d? except suicide...Because I feel there is no issue to this situation.

[Delynbetter]

Some antibiotics cause adverse reactions - not the normal allergic reactions. Which one are you on?

[diana.p]

it's called norfloxacin.

[scotty]

These category of drugs (flouroquinolones) are notorius for increasing anxiety and psychosis!! What you're feeling is due to the antibiotic. Why doctors go to this category of drugs as a "first in" treatment is beyond me!!!

[diana.p]

Originally Posted by scotty

These category of drugs (flouroquinolones) are notorius for increasing anxiety and psychosis!! What you're feeling is due to the antibiotic. Why doctors go to this category of drugs as a "first in" treatment is beyond me!!!

First time, I was prescribed Augmentin. I knew, from my previous experience that I felt very bad with this one. Another reason for not taking that one was that it's produced by GSK, and I said "no, thanks"...
About Norfloxacin, the doctor told my that it is metabolized in the liver only 20%, the rest passes into urinal tract. I told her about Seroxat and she said that it will be ok.
But it drives me crazy...

[diana.p]

Originally Posted by Delynbetter

Some antibiotics cause adverse reactions - not the normal allergic reactions.

Doctors don't admit this.

[Delynbetter]

This is from the prescribing info:

Multiple-Dose Studies
In clinical trials involving 52 healthy subjects and 1980 patients with urinary tract infections or prostatitis treated with multiple doses of norfloxacin, 3.6% reported drug-related adverse experiences. However, the incidence figures below were calculated without reference to drug relationship.

The most common adverse experiences (>1.0%) were: nausea (4.2%), headache (2.8%), dizziness (1.7%), and asthenia (1.3%). Additional reactions (0.3%-1.0%) were: abdominal pain, back pain, constipation, diarrhea, dry mouth, dyspepsia/heartburn, fever, flatulence, hyperhidrosis, loose stools, pruritus, rash, somnolence, and vomiting.

Less frequent reactions (0.1%-0.2%) included: abdominal swelling, allergies, anorexia, anxiety, bitter taste, blurred vision, bursitis, chest pain, chills, depression, dysmenorrhea, edema, erythema, foot or hand swelling, insomnia, mouth ulcer, myocardial infarction, palpitation, pruritus ani, renal colic, sleep disturbances, and urticaria.

Yeah, what Scotty said a few posts back! LOL

[Delynbetter]

No, they don't admit much. They don't see a whole lot of it in their practice, so it must not exist if they don't see it - whether it be because they aren't looking, are in denial or truly have not seen it happen before.

[diana.p]

Originally Posted by Delynbetter

No, they don't admit much. They don't see a whole lot of it in their practice, so it must not exist if they don't see it - whether it be because they aren't looking, are in denial or truly have not seen it happen before.

Even if they see it they don't believe it. They send us to psyhiatrist. Very often I don't mention Seroxat when I go to doctor because I am afraid that he won't consult me properly and he would say that it's my mind the problem.

[diana.p]

Originally Posted by Delynbetter

This is from the prescribing info:


Yeah, what Scotty said a few posts back! LOL

I think I have almost 90% of these symptoms.

[diana.p]

I was prescribed 10 days of norfloxacin, but it's enough for me. I took it 7 days, I hope it's enough.

[LCrawford67]

To answer your earlier question, Diane.....no one dies from w/d. Keep that in mind, as horrible as you feel (and you may just want to die) it won't kill you. I promise!

I know I was so sick, I just prayed God would take me. It's an icky feeling, but know....there is light at the end of the tunnel.

[diana.p]

Originally Posted by lcrawford67

To answer your earlier question, Diane.....no one dies from w/d. Keep that in mind, as horrible as you feel (and you may just want to die) it won't kill you. I promise!

I know I was so sick, I just prayed God would take me. It's an icky feeling, but know....there is light at the end of the tunnel.

Thanks Laurie, it means so much to me to hear that.

[diana.p]

Originally Posted by scotty

These category of drugs (flouroquinolones) are notorius for increasing anxiety and psychosis!! What you're feeling is due to the antibiotic. Why doctors go to this category of drugs as a "first in" treatment is beyond me!!!

Hi Scotty,
I write to you because I have a urinary infection again and I don't know what antibiotic to take. Last time you gave me some good informations about "norfloxacin". If you read this thread...I have big problems when taking antibiotics and I am quite scared. What would you advise me to take?
Thank you.

[LinLou]

Are you positive you have a UTI? Because poop-out and withdrawal can cause bladder pain ( spasms ) that feels like an infection...but there's no infection. I have had severe bladder pain during withdrawal. My urine tests always come out negative, but doctor still prescribed antibiotics "just in case" ( but I don't take them ).

[diana.p]

Originally Posted by IWGMLB

Are you positive you have a UTI? Because poop-out and withdrawal can cause bladder pain ( spasms ) that feels like an infection...but there's no infection. I have had severe bladder pain during withdrawal. My urine tests always come out negative, but doctor still prescribed antibiotics "just in case" ( but I don't take them ).

Unfortunately the test is positive. I have this problems for about 6 years. The infection is caused by ecoli only.
Thanks for your answer.

Quinolones should be off the market. You are "fortunate" that your sx are as "mild" as they are, esp. while in w/d. Quinolones affect the nervous system big time. You'll probably feel much better in a couple of weeks. On my medical chart, one of the meds I will have listed as a no-no is any quinolone. Think I should get wear a medical bracelet...seriously!!!! So sorry you are suffering unnecessarily. Why oh why do doctors prescribe these drugs??? and as the first-line???

Emmy

I found this info on another w/d website....

Anti-biotics can often have the effect of increasing withdrawal symptoms and should therefore be avoided if at all possible whilst on/withdrawing from benzos or whilst off benzos and still experiencing withdrawal symtpoms.

However there are instances when they should be taken. If someone has an infection, and it has been proved to be an infection (i.e. a culture of the infection has been taken) then taking anti-biotics is essential to counter the infection.

There are however certain antibiotics which are more likely to increase withdrawal symptoms.

These are:

1. The Quinolones e.g. Ciprofloxacin (Ciproxin) which are best avoided by people in benzo withdrawal
LIST OF QUINOLONE ANTIBIOTICS -
ofloxacin(Floxin®), levofloxacin(Levaquin®, Tavanic®), ciprofloxacin(Ciproxin, Cipro®, Baycip®, Cetraxal®, Ciflox®, Cifran®, Ciplox®, Cyprobay®, Quintor®), norfloxacin(Noroxin®, Amicrobin®, Anquin®, Baccidal®, Barazan®, Biofloxin®, Floxenor®, Fulgram®, Janacin®, Lexinor®, Norofin®, Norxacin®, Orixacin®, Oroflox®, Urinox®, Zoroxin®), enoxacin(Penetrex®), lomefloxacin(Maxaquin®), grepafloxacin(Raxar®), trovafloxacin(Trovan®), sparfloxacin(Zagam®), temafloxacin(Omniflox®), moxifloxacin(Avelox®), gatifloxacin(Tequin®), gemifloxacin

2. Erythromycin-type (eg. Clarithromycin) antibiotics, which should be avoided as well

If the infection isn't just raging, I would get some pure cranberrry juice from a health foods store, and dilute with water. If the infection is bad, there are other a/b's besides the dreaded quinolones that they can give you. Maybe nurse Laurie will know which one is best.

Emmy

[scotty]

If you're not allergic to penicillin(amoxicillin), those are very effective against e coli. So are the cephalosporins(Keflex, Ceftin)

[diana.p]

Thanks a lot for your informations.
I just received the result from the lab. The only antibiotics that could work in my infection, according to the lab, are : ciprofloxacin, norfloxacin and nalidixic acid. So, I have no chance. I am allergic to ciprofloxacin. Last time I took norfloxacin and I felt terrible.
And about nalidixic acid I don't know much. Is it from the same category that Emmy mentioned earlyer, Quinolones?

[Amaya's Nana]

Originally Posted by IWGMLB

Are you positive you have a UTI? Because poop-out and withdrawal can cause bladder pain ( spasms ) that feels like an infection...but there's no infection. I have had severe bladder pain during withdrawal. My urine tests always come out negative, but doctor still prescribed antibiotics "just in case" ( but I don't take them ).

I had the EXACT same thing. I thought I was the only one!

There HAS to be something you can take besides a quinolone.
here is what wikipedia says...

Nalidixic acid (NegGram®)is the basis for quinolone antibiotics.

It acts bacteriostatically (that is, it inhibits growth and reproduction) or bactericidally (it kills them) on both Gram positive and Gram negative bacteria, depending on the concentration.

It is especially used in treating urinary tract infections, caused for example by Escherichia coli, Proteus, shigella, Enterobacter and Klebsiella

I found this on an e.coli UTI page....

"If you have E. Coli, your doctor may prescribe a large supply of the quinolone antibiotics or ampicillin"

sooo...could ampicillin work?

[diana.p]

Hi,
Finnaly, I took norfloxacin only for 2 days because I felt to bad and I had to stop taking it. After that I took cranberry and I still do. The UTI didn't bother me yet. I will have some lab test in the future.
Thanks for your advice and concern.