Naturopathic/Homeopathic remedies

yogihopeful · 10-04-2006, 07:16 PM

I haven't been on the forum in a while, but i wanted to check in and to chat with people who understand what I am going through.

I was wondering if anyone out there has tried naturopathic/homeopathic remedies. I am lucky enough to go to a school with a Naturopathic clinic (they have a doctoral program, so services are free for students and offered at a reduced price for the public) and I've been working with a naturopath for about 5 months now. We also just recently started to collaborate with my psychiatrist, who I must say was incredibly open minded about the prospect. I have found the naturopathic clinic to be incredibly supportive (they want to get me off the evil drug too!) and wanted to share my experience and to see if anyone had a similar experience.

The way depression is viewed by a naturopathic doctor is somewhat similar to a regular md...that there is an imbalance in the body. However, instead of trying to medicate, the approach is to find out what the body is missing and see if it can be replaced through diet, vitamins, herbs, and supplements. I like this approach much better

So far I have begun following the blood type diet by Dr. Peter J. D'Adamo, which sounds wacky, but actually has been working for me for the most part. I found that avoiding the foods I should avoid with my blood type (A+) has given me more energy and less gastrointestinal problems which were abundant at the beginning of my withdrawal.

I have also begun taking a multi vitamin, magnesium (though I began that as a recommendation from this forum) a vitamin B complex, and an Amino Acid complex. I actually had a neurotrasmitter test done and it showed that I was low in just about all aminos and such. I have used a small amount of melatonin on occasion because I get insomnia during the first week i reduce my does. I got the melatonin in a liquid form, and it is much easier to control the dose...just a little does it (1mg or less).

Next week I am meeting with a homeopathic doctor to begin mapping what is called my "cycle". I have become very interested in exploring this area of therapy and wanted to know if anyone had done the same or was interested themselves. So far I have found this to be an incredibly positive experience.

Charlie · 10-04-2006, 07:23 PM

I don't know how or if you track the changes you make but this might be of interest to you. Good Luck!!!

http://www.paxilprogress.org/forums/...ad.php?t=21554

zimm · 10-04-2006, 07:27 PM

I have been interested in the blood type diet. But I was visiting my son and my two granddaughters. They are one and five years old. The older one is definately a meat eater and always has been. And most times that is all she wants to eat. The baby is very different. She likes carbs and it is hard to get her to eat much meat.My blood type is A so I should be vegetarian. But both girls are type A also. I guess I just need to read the book. I'm sure there is an explaination, but it make me wonder.

texgirl · 10-04-2006, 07:30 PM

Where do you get liquid melatonin? I've been told that .5 mg is the recommended dose for sleep, but the smallest pills I've been able to find are 1 mg.

yogihopeful · 10-04-2006, 07:32 PM

I got the liquid melatonin from the naturopathic clinic...they have a dispensary that sells supplements. The brand is Biogenesis by Neutraceuticals...i'm not sure if it is sold in stores, but it would be worth checking out because i can just take a drop or two which is nice.

yogihopeful · 10-04-2006, 07:37 PM

Zimm,

The book is interesting, I had a hard time accepting no more dairy or most wheat products and no tomatoe sauce...i'm italian! I have to say though that the no dairy has been a godsend. I usually have had a sinus infection by now during the fall, but cutting out dairy has helped get that under control. I too used to get the cravings for meat, but I would always feel lethargic after. Switching to poultry, fish and tofu has made a bigger difference then I thought.

LCrawford67 · 10-04-2006, 09:03 PM

I believe in diet, vitamins/minerals, and exercise more than I ever have in my life. If I'd have followed that 10 years ago, I wouldn't be where I am today. It was easier for me to take a damn pill.

More2MeThanOCD · 10-05-2006, 01:29 PM

I am in taper mode and here are my daily natural meds:

4 capsules of Omega 3 Fish Oil- highest EPA you can find
3-4ml liquid magnesium
1 multivitamin
chamomile tea in the evening to relax after dinner until bedtime
25 drops of liquid valerian root at bedtime (my newest as I love it!)

Diet- tons of lean fish and chicken, veggies, organic milk, whole grain bread and cereal, LOTS of water, tea and... decaf coffee (I gotta still pretend!)

LCrawford67 · 10-05-2006, 01:31 PM

I drink Postum for my pretend coffee

texgirl · 10-05-2006, 01:34 PM

STB, where do you get liquid magnesium and liquid valerian?

More2MeThanOCD · 10-05-2006, 01:35 PM

Whole Foods!

texgirl · 10-05-2006, 01:38 PM

Cool. Once again I thank God I live in a progressive town. I'm not sure where I'd be if I were stuck out in the boonies and didn't have access to great stores and open-minded attitudes about healing. (Still looking for a no-drugs doctor, though. But he/she is here somewhere, I know it!)

LCrawford67 · 10-05-2006, 01:40 PM

Well, I live in the boonies, but I do go to town to get what I need. Well, that and the internet!

texgirl · 10-05-2006, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LCrawford67

Well, I live in the boonies, but I do go to town to get what I need. Well, that and the internet!

Sorry, I didn't mean to make anybody feel bad.

Regardless of where we live, we'd all be lost without the Internet.

LCrawford67 · 10-05-2006, 01:44 PM

Oh honey....you didn't make me feel bad at all!!! I do live in the boonies and I do have to go into Columbus to get anything, which is why I do most of it online!

texgirl · 10-05-2006, 01:45 PM

Next question, STB: How does one take liquid magnesium and liquid valerian? Sublingually (sp?) or by some other method?

texgirl · 10-05-2006, 01:48 PM

Actually, LC, a big part of me longs for the boonies. Several years ago I lived in a little cabin surrounded by 400 acres of East Texas Piney Woods, and it was the best 3 months of my life. When I do those relaxation exercises that tell you to travel in your mind to your favorite place, that's always mine. I dream of being able to do it again someday . . .

henk · 11-16-2006, 04:07 AM

Hi Yogihopeful!

I have tried Homeopathic remedies, and they are helping me a lot! I like the way a homeopathic dokters are looking at a body, and i am, slowely, getting better. So far to me it is a very positive experience as well.

Henk

plummerw · 11-16-2006, 06:47 AM

I've always suspected that alot of this "chemical imbalance" is caused by diet and nutrition, but I really never knew where to look. Or I was too lazy to pursue it.
I also live in the boonies and was not remotely upset by the earlier comment. I am very frustrated with how hard it is to find a good doctor. And I have to drive an hour to get my supplements(magnesium, fish oil, bee pollen) I don't do alot of on line shopping because of the cost of shipping.

elisa · 11-16-2006, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henk

I have tried Homeopathic remedies, and they are helping me a lot! I like the way a homeopathic dokters are looking at a body, and i am, slowely, getting better. So far to me it is a very positive experience as well.

Good to hear that you're getting better Henk! Whatever helps us feeling better is good!! Sometimes it takes some trial and errors, while some of us can't even take any supplements at all due to our sensitivity. It seems that having taken these meds makes us more sensitive to things that we wouldn't have had problems with prior to going on these meds.

10-04-2006, 07:16 PM	#1
yogihopeful Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 28	Naturopathic/Homeopathic remedies I haven't been on the forum in a while, but i wanted to check in and to chat with people who understand what I am going through. I was wondering if anyone out there has tried naturopathic/homeopathic remedies. I am lucky enough to go to a school with a Naturopathic clinic (they have a doctoral program, so services are free for students and offered at a reduced price for the public) and I've been working with a naturopath for about 5 months now. We also just recently started to collaborate with my psychiatrist, who I must say was incredibly open minded about the prospect. I have found the naturopathic clinic to be incredibly supportive (they want to get me off the evil drug too!) and wanted to share my experience and to see if anyone had a similar experience. The way depression is viewed by a naturopathic doctor is somewhat similar to a regular md...that there is an imbalance in the body. However, instead of trying to medicate, the approach is to find out what the body is missing and see if it can be replaced through diet, vitamins, herbs, and supplements. I like this approach much better So far I have begun following the blood type diet by Dr. Peter J. D'Adamo, which sounds wacky, but actually has been working for me for the most part. I found that avoiding the foods I should avoid with my blood type (A+) has given me more energy and less gastrointestinal problems which were abundant at the beginning of my withdrawal. I have also begun taking a multi vitamin, magnesium (though I began that as a recommendation from this forum) a vitamin B complex, and an Amino Acid complex. I actually had a neurotrasmitter test done and it showed that I was low in just about all aminos and such. I have used a small amount of melatonin on occasion because I get insomnia during the first week i reduce my does. I got the melatonin in a liquid form, and it is much easier to control the dose...just a little does it (1mg or less). Next week I am meeting with a homeopathic doctor to begin mapping what is called my "cycle". I have become very interested in exploring this area of therapy and wanted to know if anyone had done the same or was interested themselves. So far I have found this to be an incredibly positive experience. __________________ Started Paxil CR 12.5mg Dec. 2003 Increased to 25mg July 2004 Started decreasing Nov 2005 12.5mg Got stuck at 10mg in January, huge anxiety attacks Started working with a Naturopathic clinic in April 2006 Began shaving from 10mg in May 2006 Took the rest of 2006 and 2007 to wean down with stops to accommodate papers and finals for my grad program. Paxil Free Dec 19, 2007!

10-04-2006, 07:23 PM	#2
Charlie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 8,271	Re: Naturopathic/Homeopathic remedies I don't know how or if you track the changes you make but this might be of interest to you. Good Luck!!! http://www.paxilprogress.org/forums/...ad.php?t=21554 __________________ The truth is the truth even if no one believes it, and a lie is a lie even if everyone believes it." Knowledge speaks ....... Wisdom listens Charlie www.ThePaxilProtest.com

10-04-2006, 07:27 PM	#3
zimm Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 549	Re: Naturopathic/Homeopathic remedies I have been interested in the blood type diet. But I was visiting my son and my two granddaughters. They are one and five years old. The older one is definately a meat eater and always has been. And most times that is all she wants to eat. The baby is very different. She likes carbs and it is hard to get her to eat much meat.My blood type is A so I should be vegetarian. But both girls are type A also. I guess I just need to read the book. I'm sure there is an explaination, but it make me wonder.

10-04-2006, 07:30 PM	#4
texgirl Regina Benzodictius Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,083	Re: Naturopathic/Homeopathic remedies Where do you get liquid melatonin? I've been told that .5 mg is the recommended dose for sleep, but the smallest pills I've been able to find are 1 mg.

10-04-2006, 07:32 PM	#5
yogihopeful Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 28	Re: Naturopathic/Homeopathic remedies I got the liquid melatonin from the naturopathic clinic...they have a dispensary that sells supplements. The brand is Biogenesis by Neutraceuticals...i'm not sure if it is sold in stores, but it would be worth checking out because i can just take a drop or two which is nice. __________________ Started Paxil CR 12.5mg Dec. 2003 Increased to 25mg July 2004 Started decreasing Nov 2005 12.5mg Got stuck at 10mg in January, huge anxiety attacks Started working with a Naturopathic clinic in April 2006 Began shaving from 10mg in May 2006 Took the rest of 2006 and 2007 to wean down with stops to accommodate papers and finals for my grad program. Paxil Free Dec 19, 2007!

10-04-2006, 07:37 PM	#6
yogihopeful Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 28	Re: Naturopathic/Homeopathic remedies Zimm, The book is interesting, I had a hard time accepting no more dairy or most wheat products and no tomatoe sauce...i'm italian! I have to say though that the no dairy has been a godsend. I usually have had a sinus infection by now during the fall, but cutting out dairy has helped get that under control. I too used to get the cravings for meat, but I would always feel lethargic after. Switching to poultry, fish and tofu has made a bigger difference then I thought. __________________ Started Paxil CR 12.5mg Dec. 2003 Increased to 25mg July 2004 Started decreasing Nov 2005 12.5mg Got stuck at 10mg in January, huge anxiety attacks Started working with a Naturopathic clinic in April 2006 Began shaving from 10mg in May 2006 Took the rest of 2006 and 2007 to wean down with stops to accommodate papers and finals for my grad program. Paxil Free Dec 19, 2007!

10-04-2006, 09:03 PM	#7
LCrawford67 Moderator "Everybody poops" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 34,484	Re: Naturopathic/Homeopathic remedies I believe in diet, vitamins/minerals, and exercise more than I ever have in my life. If I'd have followed that 10 years ago, I wouldn't be where I am today. It was easier for me to take a damn pill. __________________ aka LC aka Laurie C. Paxil, 20 mg since 1997, for IBS Two unsuccessful attempts to quit. Started tapering 11/27/06 PAXIL FREE 12/29/07 Today is the best day, EVER!

10-05-2006, 01:29 PM	#8
More2MeThanOCD Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 462	Re: Naturopathic/Homeopathic remedies I am in taper mode and here are my daily natural meds: 4 capsules of Omega 3 Fish Oil- highest EPA you can find 3-4ml liquid magnesium 1 multivitamin chamomile tea in the evening to relax after dinner until bedtime 25 drops of liquid valerian root at bedtime (my newest as I love it!) Diet- tons of lean fish and chicken, veggies, organic milk, whole grain bread and cereal, LOTS of water, tea and... decaf coffee (I gotta still pretend!) __________________ 20 mg pxl '02-'06 for OCD, panic and depress 20 to 15 8/31/06 15 to 12.5 9/13 12.5 to 10 10/24 10 to 7.5 on 11/5 7.5 to 5 on 12/3 5 to 3 on 12/19 3 to 2/2.5 12/24 1/1/07- Pax free 8/1/08- Crash & burn 8/6- Celexa- didn't work, panic worse 8/16- Back on 20 mg Pax some Klon 8/29/07-day when vicious attacks subsided and I ate again. 9/10/08- Been back on Pax for a year and A&D have been fine. Not happy to take pills, but happy to be healthy again.

10-05-2006, 01:31 PM	#9
LCrawford67 Moderator "Everybody poops" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 34,484	Re: Naturopathic/Homeopathic remedies I drink Postum for my pretend coffee __________________ aka LC aka Laurie C. Paxil, 20 mg since 1997, for IBS Two unsuccessful attempts to quit. Started tapering 11/27/06 PAXIL FREE 12/29/07 Today is the best day, EVER!

10-05-2006, 01:34 PM	#10
texgirl Regina Benzodictius Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,083	Re: Naturopathic/Homeopathic remedies STB, where do you get liquid magnesium and liquid valerian? __________________ Adverse reaction to Lexapro led to Paxil, 10 months use, 2005. One month taper. Benzos (Xanax, then Klonopin), 2-1/2 years use, 2005-2007. 8 month taper. Completely free from psychiatry since 8/5/07 Face. Accept. Float. Let Time Pass. — Dr. Claire Weekes *We either make ourselves miserable or we make ourselves happy. The amount of work is the same.* — Carlos Castañeda

10-05-2006, 01:35 PM	#11
More2MeThanOCD Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 462	Re: Naturopathic/Homeopathic remedies Whole Foods! __________________ 20 mg pxl '02-'06 for OCD, panic and depress 20 to 15 8/31/06 15 to 12.5 9/13 12.5 to 10 10/24 10 to 7.5 on 11/5 7.5 to 5 on 12/3 5 to 3 on 12/19 3 to 2/2.5 12/24 1/1/07- Pax free 8/1/08- Crash & burn 8/6- Celexa- didn't work, panic worse 8/16- Back on 20 mg Pax some Klon 8/29/07-day when vicious attacks subsided and I ate again. 9/10/08- Been back on Pax for a year and A&D have been fine. Not happy to take pills, but happy to be healthy again.

10-05-2006, 01:38 PM	#12
texgirl Regina Benzodictius Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,083	Re: Naturopathic/Homeopathic remedies Cool. Once again I thank God I live in a progressive town. I'm not sure where I'd be if I were stuck out in the boonies and didn't have access to great stores and open-minded attitudes about healing. (Still looking for a no-drugs doctor, though. But he/she is here somewhere, I know it!) __________________ Adverse reaction to Lexapro led to Paxil, 10 months use, 2005. One month taper. Benzos (Xanax, then Klonopin), 2-1/2 years use, 2005-2007. 8 month taper. Completely free from psychiatry since 8/5/07 Face. Accept. Float. Let Time Pass. — Dr. Claire Weekes *We either make ourselves miserable or we make ourselves happy. The amount of work is the same.* — Carlos Castañeda

10-05-2006, 01:40 PM	#13
LCrawford67 Moderator "Everybody poops" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 34,484	Re: Naturopathic/Homeopathic remedies Well, I live in the boonies, but I do go to town to get what I need. Well, that and the internet! __________________ aka LC aka Laurie C. Paxil, 20 mg since 1997, for IBS Two unsuccessful attempts to quit. Started tapering 11/27/06 PAXIL FREE 12/29/07 Today is the best day, EVER!

10-05-2006, 01:44 PM	#15
LCrawford67 Moderator "Everybody poops" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 34,484	Re: Naturopathic/Homeopathic remedies Oh honey....you didn't make me feel bad at all!!! I do live in the boonies and I do have to go into Columbus to get anything, which is why I do most of it online! __________________ aka LC aka Laurie C. Paxil, 20 mg since 1997, for IBS Two unsuccessful attempts to quit. Started tapering 11/27/06 PAXIL FREE 12/29/07 Today is the best day, EVER!

10-05-2006, 01:45 PM	#16
texgirl Regina Benzodictius Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,083	Re: Naturopathic/Homeopathic remedies Next question, STB: How does one take liquid magnesium and liquid valerian? Sublingually (sp?) or by some other method? __________________ Adverse reaction to Lexapro led to Paxil, 10 months use, 2005. One month taper. Benzos (Xanax, then Klonopin), 2-1/2 years use, 2005-2007. 8 month taper. Completely free from psychiatry since 8/5/07 Face. Accept. Float. Let Time Pass. — Dr. Claire Weekes *We either make ourselves miserable or we make ourselves happy. The amount of work is the same.* — Carlos Castañeda

10-05-2006, 01:48 PM	#17
texgirl Regina Benzodictius Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,083	Re: Naturopathic/Homeopathic remedies Actually, LC, a big part of me longs for the boonies. Several years ago I lived in a little cabin surrounded by 400 acres of East Texas Piney Woods, and it was the best 3 months of my life. When I do those relaxation exercises that tell you to travel in your mind to your favorite place, that's always mine. I dream of being able to do it again someday . . . __________________ Adverse reaction to Lexapro led to Paxil, 10 months use, 2005. One month taper. Benzos (Xanax, then Klonopin), 2-1/2 years use, 2005-2007. 8 month taper. Completely free from psychiatry since 8/5/07 Face. Accept. Float. Let Time Pass. — Dr. Claire Weekes *We either make ourselves miserable or we make ourselves happy. The amount of work is the same.* — Carlos Castañeda

11-16-2006, 04:07 AM	#18
henk Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 61	Re: Naturopathic/Homeopathic remedies Hi Yogihopeful! I have tried Homeopathic remedies, and they are helping me a lot! I like the way a homeopathic dokters are looking at a body, and i am, slowely, getting better. So far to me it is a very positive experience as well. Henk

11-16-2006, 06:47 AM	#19
plummerw Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 280	Re: Naturopathic/Homeopathic remedies I've always suspected that alot of this "chemical imbalance" is caused by diet and nutrition, but I really never knew where to look. Or I was too lazy to pursue it. I also live in the boonies and was not remotely upset by the earlier comment. I am very frustrated with how hard it is to find a good doctor. And I have to drive an hour to get my supplements(magnesium, fish oil, bee pollen) I don't do alot of on line shopping because of the cost of shipping. __________________ 9/98 paxil for anxiety 30 mg. 4/05 concerta for ADHD 11/05 quit concerta cold turkey 12/05 started paxil withdrawal skip one day for a week then skip 2 days for a week and so on. 2/06 off paxil.

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