weaning

diana.p · 10-06-2006, 04:52 AM

Yesterday I started weaning again. This time I will do it slowly. I don't have liquid and I am using a method similar to summer bee's - shaving the pill and measure it. A 20 mg pill is 11.8 mm long, so half is almost 6 mm. I shaved it to 5.5, I hope is slowly enough.
Today I feel a diffrence, but I couldn't describe it.
Should I expect to feel bad?

LCrawford67 · 10-06-2006, 07:58 AM

Way to go, Diana!!! Don't "expect" anything. Just keep doing what you're doing and take one day at a time. You might be pleasantly surprised!

diana.p · 10-06-2006, 08:38 AM

Thanks for your answer. It's hard "not to expect", but I will try. I was thinking that it can not be worse that when I reduced it from 20, suddenly to 10.
Thanks for your support.

LCrawford67 · 10-06-2006, 08:42 AM

Oh Lord no!!! I did a 20-10 drop.....I don't think it'll be worse than that!

diana.p · 10-06-2006, 08:46 AM

It's ok then, I can handle it.

Delynbetter · 10-06-2006, 08:54 AM

So are you saying you're going from 20mg to 10mg or were you still at 10mg? (I don't remember where everyone is.)

diana.p · 10-06-2006, 08:55 AM

Last night, my boyfriend told me that I said something and I don't remember. He said that he wanted me to give him something and my response was "i don't care". He was very upset that I don't care about him. I am a little scared that I don't remember saying that and it doesn't sound like me. I always care about the others.
I am afraid that I could lose control and I could say or do things that I shouldn't.

diana.p · 10-06-2006, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Delynbetter

So are you saying you're going from 20mg to 10mg or were you still at 10mg? (I don't remember where everyone is.)

I went from 20 to 10 in may this year. I had a bad w/d and now I wean from 10.

LCrawford67 · 10-06-2006, 08:59 AM

You're lucky, Diana. When I did the 20-10 drop, I had to get back on 20. I couldn't stabalize on 10.

Delynbetter · 10-06-2006, 09:00 AM

Whew! I saw that you "started back" and I wasn't sure at which level you started back.

Homerbcool · 10-06-2006, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by diana.p

Last night, my boyfriend told me that I said something and I don't remember. He said that he wanted me to give him something and my response was "i don't care". He was very upset that I don't care about him. I am a little scared that I don't remember saying that and it doesn't sound like me. I always care about the others.
I am afraid that I could lose control and I could say or do things that I shouldn't.

diana..when this happens between my wifey and I..I gently point out to her...about all the caring and nice things i do, i remind her that I am on a mind bending drug, tryng to get off of it, I warned her that this mght happen, that it was the tapering not me...and every single time I remind her..she apologies and thnks me..

Now, just as we have the right to be the way we are during this weaning...our partners have the right to voice ther opinion and displeasure..and this iwe need to validate their frustration with us as well...big hugs and kisses go a long way...and having open and honest lines of communication is crucial...

diana.p · 10-06-2006, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Delynbetter

Whew! I saw that you "started back" and I wasn't sure at which level you started back.

It's my english fault. I will change the sentence.

diana.p · 10-06-2006, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by LCrawford67

You're lucky, Diana. When I did the 20-10 drop, I had to get back on 20. I couldn't stabalize on 10.

I felt and still feel bad. I don't know if I stabilized at 10. I feel that 10mg is worse than 20. It makes me very confuse, so I better wean.

diana.p · 10-06-2006, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Homerbcool

diana..when this happens between my wifey and I..I gently point out to her...about all the caring and nice things i do, i remind her that I am on a mind bending drug, tryng to get off of it, I warned her that this mght happen, that it was the tapering not me...and every single time I remind her..she apologies and thnks me..

Now, just as we have the right to be the way we are during this weaning...our partners have the right to voice ther opinion and displeasure..and this iwe need to validate their frustration with us as well...big hugs and kisses go a long way...and having open and honest lines of communication is crucial...

My boyfriend is such a nice, kind and understanding person. I feel sorry for him. He is stucked with me and I am sorry for that. I wish I could make him happy. I know it's hard for him, but I don't know how to help him.

LCrawford67 · 10-06-2006, 09:06 AM

I was just so physically sick, it was awful! This wean, will be much, much slower. I'm ordering my label me sane products next week for a one month pre-taper, I've already got a new doc who supports me 100%, and I've found a compounding pharmacy to measure and accurately cut my doses for me each month. I had a bad experience measuring the liquid myself

diana.p · 10-06-2006, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by LCrawford67

I was just so physically sick, it was awful! This wean, will be much, much slower. I'm ordering my label me sane products next week for a one month pre-taper, I've already got a new doc who supports me 100%, and I've found a compounding pharmacy to measure and accurately cut my doses for me each month. I had a bad experience measuring the liquid myself

I am also physically sick. In my case I think it's worse because of my thyroid surgery. This Seroxat is playing with my hormones and for the moment, my life is made only of one room, computer and bed.

diana.p · 10-06-2006, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by LCrawford67

I was just so physically sick, it was awful! This wean, will be much, much slower. I'm ordering my label me sane products next week for a one month pre-taper, I've already got a new doc who supports me 100%, and I've found a compounding pharmacy to measure and accurately cut my doses for me each month. I had a bad experience measuring the liquid myself

It's great that you found a good doctor. For me, this site is the doctor.

LCrawford67 · 10-06-2006, 09:13 AM

I'm sure the surgery isn't helping at all.

Homerbcool · 10-06-2006, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by diana.p

My boyfriend is such a nice, kind and understanding person. I feel sorry for him. He is stucked with me and I am sorry for that. I wish I could make him happy. I know it's hard for him, but I don't know how to help him.

hugs and kisses..hugs and kisses...and you know a secret about us men..we luv the little gifts too..even a card saying Hey, we appreciate you....little things..like sending flowers to my wife the second I post this...

diana.p · 10-06-2006, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Homerbcool

hugs and kisses..hugs and kisses...and you know a secret about us men..we luv the little gifts too..even a card saying Hey, we appreciate you....little things..like sending flowers to my wife the second I post this...

yes, you are right. He doesn't need to much as we do ( I mean women). He needs so little things...but in this ****** w/d it's hard sometimes to give anything. And I know about myself that I can give so much...

diana.p · 10-06-2006, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by LCrawford67

I'm sure the surgery isn't helping at all.

No, it's not. Seroxat is so dangerous...I realized that because of my blood test. I will try to explain. I don't have thyroid at all and I take thyroid hormons (T3 and T4). TSH is secreted(given) by the pinneal gland according to how many T3 and T4 are in the body. Even if I take the right dose of T3 and T4 (artifficial), TSH is not normal and it should be. But, because of Seroxat, pinneal gland gives more TSH than body requires.
I hope my explanation makes sense.

LCrawford67 · 10-06-2006, 09:29 AM

It makes perfect sense. Damn drug screws everything up!

kami · 10-06-2006, 12:15 PM

how long does it take to get paxil out of your system?

texgirl · 10-06-2006, 12:31 PM

Boy, Kami, you'll get a bunch of different theories on that. Might want to check out the thread "Discontinuing Syndrome" under General Discussion. Or, if that fails, start a new thread with your question. It could get lost here.

Ginger · 10-06-2006, 12:37 PM

Kami, i took my last dose 6.5 months ago and finally feel pretty good-like it's out of my system but a month ago i thought the same thing-in other words...it takes a long time and it's hard to recognize how crappy it has mde you feel until it gets better. the good news is that it does get better.

diana.p- i'm thick so i had a hard time figuring out your taper but you know slow, slower and slow is the way to go. I also don't have a thyroid gland and have wondered how paxil messed with me but during the time i was on paxil- i had my levels checked a couple times and they were fine.

10-06-2006, 04:52 AM	#1
diana.p Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Romania Posts: 493	weaning Yesterday I started weaning again. This time I will do it slowly. I don't have liquid and I am using a method similar to summer bee's - shaving the pill and measure it. A 20 mg pill is 11.8 mm long, so half is almost 6 mm. I shaved it to 5.5, I hope is slowly enough. Today I feel a diffrence, but I couldn't describe it. Should I expect to feel bad? __________________ Diana ----------------------------- 2004 - started 20 mg Seroxat for depression and pannick attacks after thyroid surgery 2006 - had poop-out may 2006 - reduced it at 10 mg...bad withdrawal 10/5 : 9mg 10/16: 6mg 12/1 : 5mg 01/06 : 4.4 mg 03/12 : 3 mg 04/14 : 1.5 mg 05/20 : Seroxat FREE Currently taking 0.25 mg Clonazepam daily Magnesium, Potassium, Vitamin C, Calcium

10-06-2006, 07:58 AM	#2
LCrawford67 Moderator "Everybody poops" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 26,487	Re: weaning Way to go, Diana!!! Don't "expect" anything. Just keep doing what you're doing and take one day at a time. You might be pleasantly surprised! __________________ aka LC aka Laurie C. Paxil, 20 mg since 1997, for IBS Two unsuccessful attempts to quit. Started tapering 11/27/06 PAXIL FREE 12/29/07 If the only prayer you said in your whole life was, "thank you," that would suffice. ~Meister Eckhart Thanksgiving, man. Not a good day to be my pants. ~Kevin James

10-06-2006, 08:38 AM	#3
diana.p Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Romania Posts: 493	Re: weaning Thanks for your answer. It's hard "not to expect", but I will try. I was thinking that it can not be worse that when I reduced it from 20, suddenly to 10. Thanks for your support. __________________ Diana ----------------------------- 2004 - started 20 mg Seroxat for depression and pannick attacks after thyroid surgery 2006 - had poop-out may 2006 - reduced it at 10 mg...bad withdrawal 10/5 : 9mg 10/16: 6mg 12/1 : 5mg 01/06 : 4.4 mg 03/12 : 3 mg 04/14 : 1.5 mg 05/20 : Seroxat FREE Currently taking 0.25 mg Clonazepam daily Magnesium, Potassium, Vitamin C, Calcium

10-06-2006, 08:42 AM	#4
LCrawford67 Moderator "Everybody poops" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 26,487	Re: weaning Oh Lord no!!! I did a 20-10 drop.....I don't think it'll be worse than that! __________________ aka LC aka Laurie C. Paxil, 20 mg since 1997, for IBS Two unsuccessful attempts to quit. Started tapering 11/27/06 PAXIL FREE 12/29/07 If the only prayer you said in your whole life was, "thank you," that would suffice. ~Meister Eckhart Thanksgiving, man. Not a good day to be my pants. ~Kevin James

10-06-2006, 08:46 AM	#5
diana.p Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Romania Posts: 493	Re: weaning It's ok then, I can handle it. __________________ Diana ----------------------------- 2004 - started 20 mg Seroxat for depression and pannick attacks after thyroid surgery 2006 - had poop-out may 2006 - reduced it at 10 mg...bad withdrawal 10/5 : 9mg 10/16: 6mg 12/1 : 5mg 01/06 : 4.4 mg 03/12 : 3 mg 04/14 : 1.5 mg 05/20 : Seroxat FREE Currently taking 0.25 mg Clonazepam daily Magnesium, Potassium, Vitamin C, Calcium

10-06-2006, 08:54 AM	#6
Delynbetter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 10,518	Re: weaning So are you saying you're going from 20mg to 10mg or were you still at 10mg? (I don't remember where everyone is.) __________________ Diagnosed anxiety/panic disorder without agoraphobia 1989. Talk/music therapy. Major anxiety and mild depression in 2004 from situational stressors. Began Paxil CR 25mg, 10/04. Quit cold-turkey 5/5/05 as demanded by doctor. Found paxilprogress 5/17/05. Began Paxil CR 12.5mg 5/17/05. Weaned 4 1/2 months. During taper - anx/panic/depression, manic episodes, agoraphobia, suicidal ideation, many other physical symptoms. Paxil-free 10/2/05.

10-06-2006, 08:55 AM	#7
diana.p Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Romania Posts: 493	Re: weaning Last night, my boyfriend told me that I said something and I don't remember. He said that he wanted me to give him something and my response was "i don't care". He was very upset that I don't care about him. I am a little scared that I don't remember saying that and it doesn't sound like me. I always care about the others. I am afraid that I could lose control and I could say or do things that I shouldn't. __________________ Diana ----------------------------- 2004 - started 20 mg Seroxat for depression and pannick attacks after thyroid surgery 2006 - had poop-out may 2006 - reduced it at 10 mg...bad withdrawal 10/5 : 9mg 10/16: 6mg 12/1 : 5mg 01/06 : 4.4 mg 03/12 : 3 mg 04/14 : 1.5 mg 05/20 : Seroxat FREE Currently taking 0.25 mg Clonazepam daily Magnesium, Potassium, Vitamin C, Calcium

10-06-2006, 08:59 AM	#9
LCrawford67 Moderator "Everybody poops" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 26,487	Re: weaning You're lucky, Diana. When I did the 20-10 drop, I had to get back on 20. I couldn't stabalize on 10. __________________ aka LC aka Laurie C. Paxil, 20 mg since 1997, for IBS Two unsuccessful attempts to quit. Started tapering 11/27/06 PAXIL FREE 12/29/07 If the only prayer you said in your whole life was, "thank you," that would suffice. ~Meister Eckhart Thanksgiving, man. Not a good day to be my pants. ~Kevin James

10-06-2006, 09:00 AM	#10
Delynbetter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 10,518	Re: weaning Whew! I saw that you "started back" and I wasn't sure at which level you started back. __________________ Diagnosed anxiety/panic disorder without agoraphobia 1989. Talk/music therapy. Major anxiety and mild depression in 2004 from situational stressors. Began Paxil CR 25mg, 10/04. Quit cold-turkey 5/5/05 as demanded by doctor. Found paxilprogress 5/17/05. Began Paxil CR 12.5mg 5/17/05. Weaned 4 1/2 months. During taper - anx/panic/depression, manic episodes, agoraphobia, suicidal ideation, many other physical symptoms. Paxil-free 10/2/05.

10-06-2006, 09:06 AM	#15
LCrawford67 Moderator "Everybody poops" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 26,487	Re: weaning I was just so physically sick, it was awful! This wean, will be much, much slower. I'm ordering my label me sane products next week for a one month pre-taper, I've already got a new doc who supports me 100%, and I've found a compounding pharmacy to measure and accurately cut my doses for me each month. I had a bad experience measuring the liquid myself __________________ aka LC aka Laurie C. Paxil, 20 mg since 1997, for IBS Two unsuccessful attempts to quit. Started tapering 11/27/06 PAXIL FREE 12/29/07 If the only prayer you said in your whole life was, "thank you," that would suffice. ~Meister Eckhart Thanksgiving, man. Not a good day to be my pants. ~Kevin James

10-06-2006, 09:13 AM	#18
LCrawford67 Moderator "Everybody poops" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 26,487	Re: weaning I'm sure the surgery isn't helping at all. __________________ aka LC aka Laurie C. Paxil, 20 mg since 1997, for IBS Two unsuccessful attempts to quit. Started tapering 11/27/06 PAXIL FREE 12/29/07 If the only prayer you said in your whole life was, "thank you," that would suffice. ~Meister Eckhart Thanksgiving, man. Not a good day to be my pants. ~Kevin James

10-06-2006, 09:29 AM	#22
LCrawford67 Moderator "Everybody poops" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 26,487	Re: weaning It makes perfect sense. Damn drug screws everything up! __________________ aka LC aka Laurie C. Paxil, 20 mg since 1997, for IBS Two unsuccessful attempts to quit. Started tapering 11/27/06 PAXIL FREE 12/29/07 If the only prayer you said in your whole life was, "thank you," that would suffice. ~Meister Eckhart Thanksgiving, man. Not a good day to be my pants. ~Kevin James

10-06-2006, 12:15 PM	#23
kami Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 22	Re: weaning how long does it take to get paxil out of your system?

10-06-2006, 12:31 PM	#24
texgirl The original" F$%^you "gal, from the cranky corner! Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,977	Re: weaning Boy, Kami, you'll get a bunch of different theories on that. Might want to check out the thread "Discontinuing Syndrome" under General Discussion. Or, if that fails, start a new thread with your question. It could get lost here. __________________ Completely free from psychiatry since 8/5/07 If we are fools enough to remain at the mercy of the people who want to sell us happiness, it will be impossible for us to ever be content with anything. How would they profit if we became content? (Thomas Merton)

10-06-2006, 12:37 PM	#25
Ginger Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 606	Re: weaning Kami, i took my last dose 6.5 months ago and finally feel pretty good-like it's out of my system but a month ago i thought the same thing-in other words...it takes a long time and it's hard to recognize how crappy it has mde you feel until it gets better. the good news is that it does get better. diana.p- i'm thick so i had a hard time figuring out your taper but you know slow, slower and slow is the way to go. I also don't have a thyroid gland and have wondered how paxil messed with me but during the time i was on paxil- i had my levels checked a couple times and they were fine. __________________ 40 mg paxil for 2.5 years last dose March 24, 2006 quit cold turkey, OUCH over a year now

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