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Old 12-06-2006, 02:29 PM   #1
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Use Paxil as a What?

I know Paxil has been "approved" for a number of things, like anxiety, depression, OCD, etc. But in his book "The Feeling Good Handbook", Dr. Stephen Burns said some doctors are giving Paxil prescriptions for preventing premature ejaculation! So I guess the fact it destroys your libido is now a good thing?!? I'd love th meet the pharmaceutical spin Meister who thought that one up!
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oh wait...bting nails, smoking, quit drinking...there have been some very strange off lable uses for this crap...the only good thing would be to even out the uneven legs of my kitchen table
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Old 12-06-2006, 02:35 PM   #3
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oh wait...bting nails, smoking, quit drinking...there have been some very strange off lable uses for this crap...the only good thing would be to even out the uneven legs of my kitchen table
I'm not sure I'd even use them for that. My dog would probably lick them and go wacko!
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Re: Use Paxil as a What?

I had an answer for this, but it just didn't look right in this context. Yes, they literally use this medication for anything they can create.
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Old 12-06-2006, 02:42 PM   #5
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I had an answer for this, but it just didn't look right in this context. Yes, they literally use this medication for anything they can create.
I have all sorts of inappropriate thoughts running through my mind right now!
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Re: Use Paxil as a What?

What I was typing wasn't inappropriate, but it certainly seemed after I typed it.
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Re: Use Paxil as a What?

To be fair, it's not the libido-killing potential of Paxil that gives it that use. It's the fact that it blocks re-uptake of seratonin... and the male orgasm mechanism involves a big re-uptake of seratonin... so it makes it very difficult to have an orgasm without concentrating.

Having said that, what's the odds that when someone is prescribed Paxil for that reason, the doctor fails to mention that it *can* completely wipe out your sex drive?
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To be fair, it's not the libido-killing potential of Paxil that gives it that use. It's the fact that it blocks re-uptake of seratonin... and the male orgasm mechanism involves a big re-uptake of seratonin... so it makes it very difficult to have an orgasm without concentrating.

Having said that, what's the odds that when someone is prescribed Paxil for that reason, the doctor fails to mention that it *can* completely wipe out your sex drive?

Not to mention the side effects and withdrawl syndrome, weight gain, etc. etc.
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Old 12-06-2006, 03:18 PM   #9
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They're working on a new short-acting SSRI called Dapoxetine to use specifically for this, because of the obvious problems with taking an SSRI all the time for something like that. It acts very fast, and something like a 10-hour half-life, so you're supposed to take it like Viagra or something, "as needed" rather than every day. In theory that sounds fine (because if you're not taking it every day, the short half-life is actually healthier, and because it never gets the chance to alter your brain chemistry in the long run, you shouldn't have withdrawal problems)...... but of course, no one knows how regularly someone could take it without getting "hooked". And no one has ever looked into the long-term effects of taking an SSRI once a week. Something tells me there will be problems somewhere along the line with this stuff.

Mind you, knowing Pharma, when it comes out it'll be about a million pounds per pill, despite being no more expensive to produce than an SSRI, just because it'll be in demand. So I doubt anyone will be able to afford to take it too regularly anyway.
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I was given paxil for pregnancy-induced hypertension. I have heard of people being given paxil for fibromyalgia (which it can cause), carpal tunnel syndrome, IBS (which it can cause), hemorrhoids, and basically anytime that someone keeps complaining to their doctor, but tests fail to find a cause. It's the ultimate, 'just shut 'em up' drug.
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Re: Use Paxil as a What?

I remember getting this pamphlet from my Doctor when he gave me my first prescription back in 1999. It said it treated anxiety, depression, OCD, and panic attacks. I remember thinking--this is great--no matter what emotional problems I have this will help! Never occurred to me then that it was all drug marketing bull****.
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I remember getting this pamphlet from my Doctor when he gave me my first prescription back in 1999. It said it treated anxiety, depression, OCD, and panic attacks. I remember thinking--this is great--no matter what emotional problems I have this will help! Never occurred to me then that it was all drug marketing bull****.

EXACTLY! It should be concerning to people that it treats both anxiety AND depression equally well. People should be thinking, 'How can it just eradicate those two issues and nothing else.' The answer, of course, is that it can't. That's why so many end up emotionally numb.
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EXACTLY! It should be concerning to people that it treats both anxiety AND depression equally well. People should be thinking, 'How can it just eradicate those two issues and nothing else.' The answer, of course, is that it can't. That's why so many end up emotionally numb.
You are so right! I always used to tell people the worst side effect I experienced was weight gain, but looking back, I realize I was never affected positively, either. Things that made me estacially happy before Paxil now just made me feel kind of good. It really dampened the entire spectrum of feelings, not just anxiety or depression. I'm looking forward to getting that back as I learn to cope with my anxiety in a healthy way!
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Oh yes...you name it and its been prescribed for it...
They even prescribe it for Paxil withdrawal...
( oh the irony )....
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Old 12-06-2006, 06:59 PM   #15
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Re: Use Paxil as a What?

BACKACHE too. why not?

I couldn't sleep because of a back pain:

Diagnosis: depression
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after 6 years paxil my backache hasn't change....
I wonder why
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I was given paxil for pregnancy-induced hypertension.
Kim- was it effective?
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Kim- was it effective?
That's the million dollar question, Kristin. Compared to the risk that comes with taking it in pregnancy, no way was it worth it. No doubt it made any anxiety go away which probably helped a bit, but being home, responsibility-free, taking 2500mg of Aldomet daily and being on bedrest would have all been enough, I believe. The paxil made me gain so much weight that I would bet any way that it helped early on, it hurt by month seven or eight. It was not worth it in the end.
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Oh yes...you name it and its been prescribed for it...
They even prescribe it for Paxil withdrawal...
( oh the irony )....
I've also heard some doctors recommend a benzo like Ativan or Valium during SSRI withdrawal, and and SSRI for benzo withdrawal. Isn't that like switching cigarettes for booze?
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I almost never want to go see conventional doctors anymore. Which is really weird, because my father is a doctor (a tropical one though, he mostly deals with illnesses you don't see around here) I'd rather go to a holistic doctor, though. Most people seem to benefit way more from that sort of thing. My dad was telling me about this girl who's married to one his patients who was suffering from severe severe depression. Tried everything, nothing worked. Went to see a different kind of doctor and was told she needed a certain vitamin (probably not in pill form either), and that helped her tremendously. My dad is always recommending alternatives to me, and truly hates the doctor that gave me Paxil in the first place. My mother recommends I still see him for other things because of the shortage of doctors around here, but honestly I'd rather go to a walk-in clinic and see someone I didn't trust with my mind for years. I honestly had to beg for him to send me a refferal to a therapist in the summer. He just kept saying "You need these drugs. You should take Effexor." kept on, for like 20 minutes, and had the nerve to say he wasn't a pill pusher after that! Give me a break, what was the first thing you did when I came to you years ago? A 5 minute questionnaire and then Paxil. Ridiculous.

My sister's doctor tried perscribing her Zyban to quit smoking. She's looking for a new doctor now, as this same one told her to keep taking a medication that wasn't working at all for the kind of problem she had.
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I've read that Paxil was prescribed for warts!!
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my friend vicky was taking a low dose of SOME antidepressant (i can't remember which one) for migraines.
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They're working on a new short-acting SSRI called Dapoxetine to use specifically for this, because of the obvious problems with taking an SSRI all the time for something like that. It acts very fast, and something like a 10-hour half-life, so you're supposed to take it like Viagra or something, "as needed" rather than every day. In theory that sounds fine (because if you're not taking it every day, the short half-life is actually healthier, and because it never gets the chance to alter your brain chemistry in the long run, you shouldn't have withdrawal problems)...... but of course, no one knows how regularly someone could take it without getting "hooked". And no one has ever looked into the long-term effects of taking an SSRI once a week. Something tells me there will be problems somewhere along the line with this stuff.

Mind you, knowing Pharma, when it comes out it'll be about a million pounds per pill, despite being no more expensive to produce than an SSRI, just because it'll be in demand. So I doubt anyone will be able to afford to take it too regularly anyway.
would it really work though anyway? you can't get the full effect in just one pill with these drugs.. that's the entire reason it takes weeks or months of being on it to reach full effect... and also why taking one paxil doesn't do anything.
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