How reliable is the tapering of the pill?

Antimk · 12-12-2006, 03:31 AM

That you know, when you cut the paxil pill to "crusts" to taper, what a % guarantee is there that the "crust" you take contains the paroxetin mg you wish to take?

mmmh, I wonder how the mix paroxet./excip. is balanced in a pill, and if it is not perhaps so that one day you swallow a crust with + or minus of the dosis you wish/think to.
because then this would corrupt the entire withdrawal tapering alchemy.

I can't start nothing with the uncouth pudding suspension..
so I must totally rely on the pill crusts, hope they're being as clever as I do cut them... What a challenge.

nicemom · 12-12-2006, 06:48 AM

Thats why its a good idea to get the liquid if possible. There is no way to know if the pieces you are taking contain the mg. that you think they do. It makes tapering more difficult. Some people cannot get the liquid where they live or simply can't afford it.

LCrawford67 · 12-12-2006, 08:18 AM

Liquid or a compounding pharmacist who can crush, weigh, and recapsule your dose in the exact amounts.

Antimk · 12-12-2006, 12:25 PM

Easy! Since getting the (liquid??) jelly marmalade out of the bottle is something for trascendentalists, and I am not, no, I am only human, So I bring the pills to the chemist, let him do the MIRACLE of the multiplication and then send the bill to GSK right? No really, I have to live to 98 to tell the story to my grandsons.

No, seriously now. Thank you. I had never never come to the idea there were such a solution.
If only the docs were that informed and that skilled as you all here are.

tanx a lot

(but 1 thing is sure, GSK will get the bill!)

LCrawford67 · 12-12-2006, 03:14 PM

Well here's my deal....I dorked up my taper with the liquid. I measured wrong and even though I know better now, I still see myself having difficulties at the lower doses. Soooo, I found a compounding pharmacy and they're doing it for me! It's no more expensive than my prescription is now, so I'm very cool with that!

WantToQuit · 12-12-2006, 03:27 PM

part of this poster's question is something i've been wondering too, and i'm not sure it's been directly answered yet. are the contents of the paxil distributed evenly throughout the pill? meaning, if i were able to cut it exactly in half, would each half have the same amount of paxil in it? i really hope so, if not, then cutting the pills seems completely pointless.

Homerbcool · 12-12-2006, 03:32 PM

yes w2q..in the pill formthe active poison, sorry ingredient is mixed evenly through out the pill...it is with the CR that it can be an issue

WantToQuit · 12-12-2006, 03:44 PM

ok good. thanks homer.

nicemom · 12-12-2006, 05:25 PM

My pharmacist told me it was not. He told me that I should never cut a paxil pill into quarters, only halves. Said there is no guarantee that the quarters would have 1/4 of the dose. But then, Homer probably knows more than my pharmacist!!! Seriously.

Antimk · 12-12-2006, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homerbcool

yes w2q..in the pill formthe active poison, sorry ingredient is mixed evenly through out the pill...it is with the CR that it can be an issue

Well Homer thanks, but as was given the pills my ex

doc told me never to taper the pills because by doing so you miss parts of the active poison!

Oufff

CR is even worse?

Reoufff, the truth is they don't want to invest in producing 1 mg pills, WE NEED 1 MG pills! I am afraid that docs&co argue that black is white: 20mg paxil (deroxat) pills were not made to taper not to ten not to five not to 1mg. If our tapering works is thanks the placebo effect. Well I said it.

12-12-2006, 03:31 AM	#1
Antimk Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 66	How reliable is the tapering of the pill? That you know, when you cut the paxil pill to "crusts" to taper, what a % guarantee is there that the "crust" you take contains the paroxetin mg you wish to take? mmmh, I wonder how the mix paroxet./excip. is balanced in a pill, and if it is not perhaps so that one day you swallow a crust with + or minus of the dosis you wish/think to. because then this would corrupt the entire withdrawal tapering alchemy. I can't start nothing with the uncouth pudding suspension.. so I must totally rely on the pill crusts, hope they're being as clever as I do cut them... What a challenge. __________________ "for me, the beauty of the Nature, is the only way why my brief appearing on this Earth may be adhesion and not despair" (A.G.) -------------------------------------------- 1993 Prozac(Fluoxetine) 1week stopped 1994 Bromazepam 3mg + 1997 Lorazepam 25mg + 2000 Paxil(Deroxat)20mg 2003 18mg 2004 15mg 2005 20-->30mg 2006/4 15mg 2006/8 10mg 2006/12 8,75mg 12.09.06 tapering failure-->Panic-->back to 10mg+Zepam 2007/03 2,5mg 2007/7/7 STOP PAXIL

12-12-2006, 06:48 AM	#2
nicemom Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 3,183	Re: How reliable is the tappering of the pill? Thats why its a good idea to get the liquid if possible. There is no way to know if the pieces you are taking contain the mg. that you think they do. It makes tapering more difficult. Some people cannot get the liquid where they live or simply can't afford it. __________________ Diane On Paxil for 5+ years Weaned from 40mg to 15 over a 1 1/2 year period. From 15mg-0 May/June 06 (before finding PP) Protracted w/d from c/t. First 10 mths up and down but tolerable. Akathesia hit at 11 months. Many months of terrible mental and physical torture. 3/09 started Prozac but too stimulating. Currently on 15mg Lexapro and feeling so much better. Not all who waunder are lost.

12-12-2006, 08:18 AM	#3
LCrawford67 Moderator "Everybody poops" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 26,489	Re: How reliable is the tappering of the pill? Liquid or a compounding pharmacist who can crush, weigh, and recapsule your dose in the exact amounts. __________________ aka LC aka Laurie C. Paxil, 20 mg since 1997, for IBS Two unsuccessful attempts to quit. Started tapering 11/27/06 PAXIL FREE 12/29/07 If the only prayer you said in your whole life was, "thank you," that would suffice. ~Meister Eckhart Thanksgiving, man. Not a good day to be my pants. ~Kevin James

12-12-2006, 12:25 PM	#4
Antimk Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 66	Re: How reliable is the tappering of the pill? Easy! Since getting the (liquid??) jelly marmalade out of the bottle is something for trascendentalists, and I am not, no, I am only human, So I bring the pills to the chemist, let him do the MIRACLE of the multiplication and then send the bill to GSK right? No really, I have to live to 98 to tell the story to my grandsons. No, seriously now. Thank you. I had never never come to the idea there were such a solution. If only the docs were that informed and that skilled as you all here are. tanx a lot (but 1 thing is sure, GSK will get the bill!) __________________ "for me, the beauty of the Nature, is the only way why my brief appearing on this Earth may be adhesion and not despair" (A.G.) -------------------------------------------- 1993 Prozac(Fluoxetine) 1week stopped 1994 Bromazepam 3mg + 1997 Lorazepam 25mg + 2000 Paxil(Deroxat)20mg 2003 18mg 2004 15mg 2005 20-->30mg 2006/4 15mg 2006/8 10mg 2006/12 8,75mg 12.09.06 tapering failure-->Panic-->back to 10mg+Zepam 2007/03 2,5mg 2007/7/7 STOP PAXIL

12-12-2006, 03:14 PM	#5
LCrawford67 Moderator "Everybody poops" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 26,489	Re: How reliable is the tappering of the pill? Well here's my deal....I dorked up my taper with the liquid. I measured wrong and even though I know better now, I still see myself having difficulties at the lower doses. Soooo, I found a compounding pharmacy and they're doing it for me! It's no more expensive than my prescription is now, so I'm very cool with that! __________________ aka LC aka Laurie C. Paxil, 20 mg since 1997, for IBS Two unsuccessful attempts to quit. Started tapering 11/27/06 PAXIL FREE 12/29/07 If the only prayer you said in your whole life was, "thank you," that would suffice. ~Meister Eckhart Thanksgiving, man. Not a good day to be my pants. ~Kevin James

12-12-2006, 03:27 PM	#6
WantToQuit Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 52	Re: How reliable is the tappering of the pill? part of this poster's question is something i've been wondering too, and i'm not sure it's been directly answered yet. are the contents of the paxil distributed evenly throughout the pill? meaning, if i were able to cut it exactly in half, would each half have the same amount of paxil in it? i really hope so, if not, then cutting the pills seems completely pointless.

12-12-2006, 03:32 PM	#7
Homerbcool "colors outside the lines" Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,949	Re: How reliable is the tappering of the pill? yes w2q..in the pill formthe active poison, sorry ingredient is mixed evenly through out the pill...it is with the CR that it can be an issue __________________ That's one of the curses of anxiety--we make possibilities into certainties.....Tim

12-12-2006, 03:44 PM	#8
WantToQuit Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 52	Re: How reliable is the tappering of the pill? ok good. thanks homer.

12-12-2006, 05:25 PM	#9
nicemom Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 3,183	Re: How reliable is the tapering of the pill? My pharmacist told me it was not. He told me that I should never cut a paxil pill into quarters, only halves. Said there is no guarantee that the quarters would have 1/4 of the dose. But then, Homer probably knows more than my pharmacist!!! Seriously. __________________ Diane On Paxil for 5+ years Weaned from 40mg to 15 over a 1 1/2 year period. From 15mg-0 May/June 06 (before finding PP) Protracted w/d from c/t. First 10 mths up and down but tolerable. Akathesia hit at 11 months. Many months of terrible mental and physical torture. 3/09 started Prozac but too stimulating. Currently on 15mg Lexapro and feeling so much better. Not all who waunder are lost.

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