Linden Method

[imaquitter]

Does anyone know anything about the linden method? Does it work? Is it just a gimic?

[LCrawford67]

I've never heard of it. What is it?

[tcl18]

It anoher stop anxiety program, similar to Lucinda Bassets. Very expensive. I looked at it, but the lack of detail about the prorgam and the cost prevented me from buying. If its so darn good, why can't they tell us a bit more about how it works?

[canadiangirl]

i was reading alot about it too...i might try it but i havent decided yet...the info is medically right cause i asked my dr....Tammy

[LCrawford67]

I'd compare the two programs, weigh the pros and cons, then make a decision. They're both expensive, from what I understand, so make sure you do your research.

[mstimc]

I bought the Linden Pack last year when i was going through some very bad anxiety. Its useful, but expensive for what it is. I got more out of a book called "The Feeling Good Handbook" by a doctor named Stephen Burns. And its only about 25 bucks!

[texgirl]

I seem to remember investigating Linden once. I think it works on the opposite principle of Lucinda Bassett's program, teaching you to ignore your anxiety instead of learning to float with it. I think it was also less expensive by a couple of hundred dollars. But it's been a while since I checked.

Dr. Burns (it's David, not Stephen) of the Feeling Good book and handbook has a new one about controlling panic attacks without medication. I saw it in a magazine ad but haven't actually checked it out myself.

[mstimc]

Originally Posted by texgirl

I seem to remember investigating Linden once. I think it works on the opposite principle of Lucinda Bassett's program, teaching you to ignore your anxiety instead of learning to float with it. I think it was also less expensive by a couple of hundred dollars. But it's been a while since I checked.

Dr. Burns (it's David, not Stephen) of the Feeling Good book and handbook has a new one about controlling panic attacks without medication. I saw it in a magazine ad but haven't actually checked it out myself.

Thanks for correction on the name--and the update on his new book!

[safarigal]

I love that book, I'll have to search out his new one and check it out. I also found the "don't panic" book really good too.

I would never pay for a "program".

[CELESTEP]

Years backI purchased Lucinda Bassett's tapes "Aattacking Anxiety" adn they were worth every penny. During the course 8 years I would pull the tapes out and listen to them in the car and I always walked away with something.
I just sent them to someone. The served me well. Her book is good too.
Rom Panic To Power........

[Amaya's Nana]

Originally Posted by safarigal

I love that book, I'll have to search out his new one and check it out. I also found the "don't panic" book really good too.

I would never pay for a "program".

Julie -- this book was so helpful to me in the beginning of the wean and when the withdrawal got so bad after my last dose. One of the best I've read. I really think some of what I learned in that book kept me from suffering so badly with anxiety during withdrawal. It was really never a huge problem like it is for others.

[texgirl]

My mom bought me the Attacking Anxiety program for Christmas 2 years ago. I did find it helpful, though I don't agree with all of the principles. For example, I think they're way too cavalier in their attitude toward medication. On the first disc they feature a woman who claims to have quit her meds CT after just 5 weeks on the program. I once got into a totally frustrating email dialogue with a high-ranking staff member at the Midwest Center who flatly refused to believe that the symptoms I was describing could be caused by Paxil w/d; she insisted I was doing it to myself with negative thinking. I've been somewhat disillusioned ever since--not with the program, which is CBT-based and effective--but because of what I feel is a hidebound and irresponsible "party line" on the medication issue.

[imaquitter]

Thanks for all the input guys. I think if I try something it will be to read one of the books you mentioned instead of forking out the money for the linden method.

[kizzie]

One of the anxiety charities in the UK investigated The Linden Method and their basic conclusion was that although everything it said was ok - it was a very expensive way of finding out things that you can get from many of the other much cheaper books available (like the ones mentioned in this thread.)

The guy who wrote the Linden Programme also gives a money back guarantee if you dont get an improvement in your symptoms but when the charity looked into this they said it was actually very very difficult to get your money back.

Kizzie x

[Light]

Kizzie, how are you doing?

[kizzie]

Hi - good to hear from you.

Not great at the moment. Still in middle of (another ) bid to get down to as low a dose as poss and then to stay on that for a while.

Having probs with obsessive thoughts and depression. Plus physically very run down.

Am going to try and work really really hard on cbt over the next few weeks and see if that helps at all with negative symptoms.

Hope you are ok. I saw recently that you had been going through a rough patch. Hope things are easier now. I do always read the board but usually feel that theres not much help in me replying to people because my story isnt too positive and I dont want to talk too much about failing to get off after so many years - in case it puts people off.

Kizziex

[pax80]

I found this book on e m u l e

[Betsy]

Kizzie,
Be good to yourself while working really really hard on the CBT. I did that and it got me stuck in the anxiety when this whole first thing began. My big problem, that I didn't give myself credit for to begin with was that it was a post traumatic stress situation. If it had been addressed as such to being with things might have been better. Someone told me they thought I had panic anxiety, which I did, but then gave me so much info I just freaked out over it and got stuck there. That's how I got on this med to begin with. What I really needed at that time was to work through the trama with realistic thoughts, and encouragement. Which is the CBT, but I got into beating myself with doing it perfectly...silly I know. Anyway, the Lucinda Bassett relaxation tape is what got me out of my anxiety last year when I had a meltdown trying to use the liquid paxil. After the nine years of meds and psych docs and bills, the $500 for the set is looking like a bargain to me! I only paid $103 for it on ebay, however. You don't get the online help, but it sounds like from texgirl they don't know much about W/D. I have done much more with that on my own. It is SOOOOO frustrating that they take financial advantage of a person in extreme anxiety. I guess they have the same mentality as what I said. Compared to psych docs and years of counseling and meds it is cheaper. But when you're at that point you don't know what the program is or if it will even work and what if you don't get better in the 30-day-money-back guarentee- time period? I wish the psych docs would realize that three times a day use of a relaxation tape over a period of months along with CBT, which really is what her program is, is a less expensive version of Luc. BAss. Most of the docs I've asked don't even know about that program and couldn't give me any info. It seems they too only know what the pharma comp. tell them. I want to make a version of this for a less expensive price......I should! I've learned all this stuff form the same books she talks about on my own. I just didn't put it together the way she did and my piano playing son could do a great job on a relaxation tape...... I'll keep you all posted!
Betsy