2 Questions

imaquitter · 04-19-2007, 05:36 PM

My psychiatrist told me some things today and i want to find out if anyone here finds these to be true:

1. He said that if I start taking paxil again and I feel better with in a couple of days the the symptoms i was feeling was from withdrawal. If I don't feel better than what I'm feeling is not from withdrawal.

2. Shoot i can't remember my other question... I'll post when i remember.

Revvv · 04-19-2007, 06:11 PM

That sounds about right. (not remembering that is- kidding)

All jokes aside, Your Doc gave good info. I can't say that it's 100% accurate, but I would be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Johnnny off Paxil · 04-19-2007, 06:14 PM

Looking at your "weaning schedule" you essentially went cold turkey..thats your problem right there.

No don't go back on Paxil now..its been almost 3 months. Could you describe your withdrawal symptoms please

And are you doing anything health wise to help you out with this?
And are you off of stimulants , any caffeine/ alcohol
Do you take any benzo's . xanax, Klonopin, Ativan?

Regards, Johnny

Revvv · 04-19-2007, 06:14 PM

I just read your Sig - You have been off Paxil for about 3 Months. Why would you even want to consider putting yourself through all that crap again.

You may be having a few lagging withdrawal symptoms, but I wouldn't do Paxil again. If you need something at all I wouldn't do Paxil. There are waaaaaayyyyyyyy to many other meds out there.

imaquitter · 04-19-2007, 06:23 PM

First of all i remember my 2nd question...

If i do try going back on paxil for a couple days and find that it doesn't help, he said that stopping right then won't do any harm. That a couple days on paxil won't set me back at all. Is that true.

My withdrawal symptoms are: severe severe anxiety and depression, can't eat, my head feels blotted, can't concentrate, panic attacks

I take magnesium, calcium, vitamin c, and fish oil and no caffeine or alcohol or anything else.

Revvv -
You say I should take another SSRI instead? I heard many people talk against that.

Amaya's Nana · 04-19-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by imaquitter

My psychiatrist told me some things today and i want to find out if anyone here finds these to be true:

1. He said that if I start taking paxil again and I feel better with in a couple of days the the symptoms i was feeling was from withdrawal. If I don't feel better than what I'm feeling is not from withdrawal.

2. Shoot i can't remember my other question... I'll post when i remember.

Well this one is a crap shoot. There is something called the "kindling effect" when you restart an SSRI. There's a sticky somewhere about it. You are rapidly approaching that timeframe when restarting an SSRI doesn't do a darn bit of good, if you haven't already passed it.

Johnnny off Paxil · 04-19-2007, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Amaya's Nana

Well this one is a crap shoot. There is something called the "kindling effect" when you restart an SSRI. There's a sticky somewhere about it. You are rapidly approaching that time frame when restarting an SSRI doesn't do a darn bit of good, if you haven't already passed it.

I agree here..its very true the anxiety can be debilitating..I would strongly advise that you really think this over carefully..don't jump to the Paxil just to get free of the symptoms. A big thing here is that you "Cold Turkeyed"...this is a very dangerous and harmful thing to do when coming off an SSRI ,especially Paxil..you are now paying the price for this.

The call is yours..if you do go back, better to go back to 10mg for 2 months or so and then redo a proper taper..that means it really won't be till this time next year that you'll be Paxil Free and well on your way to recovery....so think about it..otherwise 3 months will have been lost of suffering for nothing.

Regards, Johnny

Delynbetter · 04-19-2007, 06:54 PM

Yup, sometimes the 2nd time around it just doesn't work, so no, this is not a solid solution in my book.

To the 2nd question you have 3 scenarios.
1. It does absolutely nothing.
2. It backfires on you and you feel worse.
3. It does give you some relief.

2 out of 3 outcomes say, "Nah", to me. Also keep in mind that it takes 2 to 6 weeks for it to start working in the first place. Your decision.

LCrawford67 · 04-19-2007, 07:28 PM

Going back up in dose did nothing for me. It just didn't work the same anymore.

Tcg · 04-20-2007, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imaquitter

1. He said that if I start taking paxil again and I feel better with in a couple of days the the symptoms i was feeling was from withdrawal. If I don't feel better than what I'm feeling is not from withdrawal.

If withdrawal was a simple case of your body longing for drugs it came accustomed to this might be true. But the problem with this theory is that Paxil and other similar meds change the way your brain functions. When we talk about withdrawal here we are referring to the time it takes for the brain to heal. During my use of Paxil I made the mistake of going back on Paxil and it took a very long time to feel the effects. If I knew then what I know now, I would have never gone back on.

nicemom · 04-20-2007, 11:47 AM

I had horrendous anxiety when I went c/t. It was very hard to get through and like you my mind was very cloudy, couldn't concentrate and I had little appetite, light headed. Anxiety does that. My pharmacist told me that you have anxiety any time you stop taking a drug like this one.

I did find that keeping myself moving helped. I love working out in the yard and did alot of that. A walk every day helped. I didn't sleep well but rested when I could even if it was just lying down for an hour or so. Have you tried Lucinda Bassett's book "from panic to power"? I HIGHLY recommend it!

I went c/t and found this board afterward. I was too afraid to go back on paxil so I gutted it out. Don't forget that anxiety leads to more anxiety, lack of sleep, more anxiety. Its a vicious cycle. If you can learn to relax and just accept it, it won't snowball.

canadiangirl · 04-20-2007, 01:58 PM

i went c\t back in august...i went back on paxil a month later and could not stabilize at any dose...my body rejected it...i went on celexa (not that i recommend it) but i have been 6 months of feeling like crap...i started taking 40 mg of celexa last friday and i am finally feeling a little normalnow...its all up to u...my psychiatrist said alot of people have problems going backon the same ssri especially if c\t ed because youre body will reject it...Tammy...good luck

04-19-2007, 05:36 PM	#1
imaquitter Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 42	2 Questions My psychiatrist told me some things today and i want to find out if anyone here finds these to be true: 1. He said that if I start taking paxil again and I feel better with in a couple of days the the symptoms i was feeling was from withdrawal. If I don't feel better than what I'm feeling is not from withdrawal. 2. Shoot i can't remember my other question... I'll post when i remember. __________________ Started 20mg Paxil late 2001 Went to Paxil CR 12.5mg sometime 2004 Switched to Prozac summer of 2005 After One month of Prozac stopped everything 2 weeks later back on paxil 20mg January 13th 2007 dropped to 10mg January 20th 2007 10mg every other day January 27th 2007 Completely Off Paxil

04-19-2007, 06:11 PM	#2
Revvv Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 13	Re: 2 Questions That sounds about right. (not remembering that is- kidding) All jokes aside, Your Doc gave good info. I can't say that it's 100% accurate, but I would be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

04-19-2007, 06:14 PM	#3
Johnnny off Paxil Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Persona Non Grata... I am No Expert on Nothing Posts: 2,894	Re: 2 Questions Looking at your "weaning schedule" you essentially went cold turkey..thats your problem right there. No don't go back on Paxil now..its been almost 3 months. Could you describe your withdrawal symptoms please And are you doing anything health wise to help you out with this? And are you off of stimulants , any caffeine/ alcohol Do you take any benzo's . xanax, Klonopin, Ativan? Regards, Johnny

04-19-2007, 06:14 PM	#4
Revvv Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 13	Re: 2 Questions I just read your Sig - You have been off Paxil for about 3 Months. Why would you even want to consider putting yourself through all that crap again. You may be having a few lagging withdrawal symptoms, but I wouldn't do Paxil again. If you need something at all I wouldn't do Paxil. There are waaaaaayyyyyyyy to many other meds out there.

04-19-2007, 06:23 PM	#5
imaquitter Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 42	Re: 2 Questions First of all i remember my 2nd question... If i do try going back on paxil for a couple days and find that it doesn't help, he said that stopping right then won't do any harm. That a couple days on paxil won't set me back at all. Is that true. My withdrawal symptoms are: severe severe anxiety and depression, can't eat, my head feels blotted, can't concentrate, panic attacks I take magnesium, calcium, vitamin c, and fish oil and no caffeine or alcohol or anything else. Revvv - You say I should take another SSRI instead? I heard many people talk against that. __________________ Started 20mg Paxil late 2001 Went to Paxil CR 12.5mg sometime 2004 Switched to Prozac summer of 2005 After One month of Prozac stopped everything 2 weeks later back on paxil 20mg January 13th 2007 dropped to 10mg January 20th 2007 10mg every other day January 27th 2007 Completely Off Paxil

04-19-2007, 06:54 PM	#8
Delynbetter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 10,518	Re: 2 Questions Yup, sometimes the 2nd time around it just doesn't work, so no, this is not a solid solution in my book. To the 2nd question you have 3 scenarios. 1. It does absolutely nothing. 2. It backfires on you and you feel worse. 3. It does give you some relief. 2 out of 3 outcomes say, "Nah", to me. Also keep in mind that it takes 2 to 6 weeks for it to start working in the first place. Your decision. __________________ Diagnosed anxiety/panic disorder without agoraphobia 1989. Talk/music therapy. Major anxiety and mild depression in 2004 from situational stressors. Began Paxil CR 25mg, 10/04. Quit cold-turkey 5/5/05 as demanded by doctor. Found paxilprogress 5/17/05. Began Paxil CR 12.5mg 5/17/05. Weaned 4 1/2 months. During taper - anx/panic/depression, manic episodes, agoraphobia, suicidal ideation, many other physical symptoms. Paxil-free 10/2/05.

04-19-2007, 07:28 PM	#9
LCrawford67 Moderator "Everybody poops" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 26,493	Re: 2 Questions Going back up in dose did nothing for me. It just didn't work the same anymore. __________________ aka LC aka Laurie C. Paxil, 20 mg since 1997, for IBS Two unsuccessful attempts to quit. Started tapering 11/27/06 PAXIL FREE 12/29/07 If the only prayer you said in your whole life was, "thank you," that would suffice. ~Meister Eckhart Thanksgiving, man. Not a good day to be my pants. ~Kevin James

04-20-2007, 11:47 AM	#11
nicemom Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 3,183	Re: 2 Questions I had horrendous anxiety when I went c/t. It was very hard to get through and like you my mind was very cloudy, couldn't concentrate and I had little appetite, light headed. Anxiety does that. My pharmacist told me that you have anxiety any time you stop taking a drug like this one. I did find that keeping myself moving helped. I love working out in the yard and did alot of that. A walk every day helped. I didn't sleep well but rested when I could even if it was just lying down for an hour or so. Have you tried Lucinda Bassett's book "from panic to power"? I HIGHLY recommend it! I went c/t and found this board afterward. I was too afraid to go back on paxil so I gutted it out. Don't forget that anxiety leads to more anxiety, lack of sleep, more anxiety. Its a vicious cycle. If you can learn to relax and just accept it, it won't snowball. __________________ Diane On Paxil for 5+ years Weaned from 40mg to 15 over a 1 1/2 year period. From 15mg-0 May/June 06 (before finding PP) Protracted w/d from c/t. First 10 mths up and down but tolerable. Akathesia hit at 11 months. Many months of terrible mental and physical torture. 3/09 started Prozac but too stimulating. Currently on 15mg Lexapro and feeling so much better. Not all who waunder are lost.

04-20-2007, 01:58 PM	#12
canadiangirl Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: canada Posts: 149	Re: 2 Questions i went c\t back in august...i went back on paxil a month later and could not stabilize at any dose...my body rejected it...i went on celexa (not that i recommend it) but i have been 6 months of feeling like crap...i started taking 40 mg of celexa last friday and i am finally feeling a little normalnow...its all up to u...my psychiatrist said alot of people have problems going backon the same ssri especially if c\t ed because youre body will reject it...Tammy...good luck __________________ started paxil 6 years ago 10mg2000 increased 20mg 2002\increased 30 mg 200\increased 40mg feb2006 cold turkey aug2006 back to 10 mg sept 2006for a week\ 20mg for 2 weeks sept2006 30 mg oct 2006(hopefully not for long) 20mg oct 20 2006 15 mg dec10,2006 12.5mg jan15 2007 10 mg...feb7 2007 now started 10 mg of celexa on feb 12(no more Paxil)trying to stabilze and having a hard time 20 mg of celexa on march 27 40mg of celexa april 30

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