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Old 10-21-2007, 11:15 AM   #1
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anyone else on 5mg?

Would like to know how others are feeling on 5mg. It seems after a few weeks i start to get very bad symptoms, anger, panic etc. Today found myself in tears over a silly movie. Just want to know what others are doing to cope. Is excessive tiredness a symptom, hypochondriac or feeling unwell? Also the racing thoughts and negativity.. ugh.

Also what have you found to be helpful other than fish oil and magnesium. Valerian, something else to chill out during this time.

Also can i eventually stabilize on 5? Like will things get better and more stable.

Any advice appreciated..
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Old 10-21-2007, 02:38 PM   #2
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Re: anyone else on 5mg?

Jill, I'm on 2 mgs and have had some of the experiences you have. I don't know if they've been as severe.

I cry over silly movies, but that's a GOOD thing! I use to be like that before, then lost all that. I forgot what it was like, till I got lower in dose and my emotions came back. Now, I bawl at everything!

I didn't have fatigue at that low of a dose, I did in the very beginning of my taper. Hypochondria is a normal symptom and still comes and goes for me. Just not as bad and I really try to ignore it, because I know it's not me. For me, that kind of goes hand in hand with the racing thoughts and negativity.

I will say this, at this low dose, all those things have improved greatly, even from 5 mgs, where you are now.

I take fish oil and milk peptides, I also walk 3-4 miles a night and personally, think that's been the best medicine!

Things will definitely get better, but everyone is different. You get symptoms after a few weeks, for me, it was day 3 after a drop.
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Old 10-21-2007, 03:47 PM   #3
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I hope that at a even lower dose i will feel better. I always wonder if after those few weeks if it's really a sign to go down a bit.. i always think i'm freaking out and i need to add more and then it turns into this catch 22. I think this time when i start getting crazy may drop a tad and see.

But that is great and promising that you feel better at 2. Another thing i'm starting to do is voice myself much more. Esp. to boyfriend, just silly arguments and telling him things that irritate me. I suppose for so long i was so easy going and didn't argue about anything so it's making up for that time lol.

The most awesome thing though is clarity and fogginess is cleared up a bit. Hoping that gets better because it stinks being in a fog. I think the hypochondriac thing has to do with simply being able to feel yourself in your own skin...(if that makes sense). Probably the numbness from higher dosage does just that and makes you not notice any type of discomfort with your own body... so when you go down suddenly all these aches and pains feel so real and intense.

Also for anyone with children. Mine are preteens and i don't know how you all deal with the noise level, stress, etc. Mine definitely test my limits and at times find myself yelling and carrying on about things.. that ona higher dose didn't care much about/or notice.

One scary thing that i'm afraid to deal wtih is.....i had a day where things suddenly felt very bizarre at work. I had strange vision and unlike a normal panic attack it was like a panic attack that didn't finish. A strange feeling of fear/disassociation and i don't want to relive that again. A feeling like i was dragging myself around, but was so out of it. Any ideas for those times? It just seemed like an intense psychological reaction to the withdrawl that couldn't be controlled. I even tried rescue but it didn't help then.

Anyway.. thanks for all the reassurance about my questions...

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Old 10-21-2007, 04:00 PM   #4
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Re: anyone else on 5mg?

Always looking at how far you come, is much better than looking at what symptoms are left. That's what helps me. Sure, I get things here and there, but it's nothing like the pure hell I went through when I tapered too fast last year. Always focus on the positives, you'll be surprised at how far you've actually come.

Now, for the situation at work you described. You may want to just get up and go walk around the building, till it passes. Obviously, it didn't last too long, or freak you out too much, so you can handle it. Not that it was pleasant, but you know you can handle it.

Do the rescue remedy, take a little walk, breathe deeply till it passes.
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:26 PM   #5
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Always looking at how far you come, is much better than looking at what symptoms are left. That's what helps me. Sure, I get things here and there, but it's nothing like the pure hell I went through when I tapered too fast last year. Always focus on the positives, you'll be surprised at how far you've actually come.

Now, for the situation at work you described. You may want to just get up and go walk around the building, till it passes. Obviously, it didn't last too long, or freak you out too much, so you can handle it. Not that it was pleasant, but you know you can handle it.

Do the rescue remedy, take a little walk, breathe deeply till it passes.
So you are saying the symptoms are in a person's control? I did find that certain symptoms i got used to with time and can handle them. Once i would freak out at those symptoms. I suppose my biggest fear are the ones i cannot control, the ones i haven't experienced yet, if there are disabling ones that i don't know about yet. But i will take your advice and try hard if that happens again to overcome it. Thanks!
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Don't let fear run your emotions. Why fear something that may very well never take place? Fear triggers anxiety, it makes your symptoms worse. Simply take one day at a time, breath, and tell yourself this is a temporary situation.

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Old 10-22-2007, 06:04 PM   #7
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Would like to know how others are feeling on 5mg. It seems after a few weeks i start to get very bad symptoms, anger, panic etc. Today found myself in tears over a silly movie. Just want to know what others are doing to cope. Is excessive tiredness a symptom, hypochondriac or feeling unwell? Also the racing thoughts and negativity.. ugh.

Also what have you found to be helpful other than fish oil and magnesium. Valerian, something else to chill out during this time.

Also can i eventually stabilize on 5? Like will things get better and more stable.

Any advice appreciated..
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Hello Jill, I am also on 5's. I am now trying to cut down to 4's.but after I stablize from trying to drop from 5's to 2.5's every 4th day. That did not work , so with the advice from this site I will cut in smaller doses. I'm starting to feel more stable now.
When i went from 7.5's to 5's. I felt the same as you are now. With the anger I sometimes felt rage!!! I have teenagers!!! I had to learn to breath out my anger. To stop for a moment and not react so quickly. I practiced this a lot!!!
With the anxiety and panic, I tried not to beat myself up about it and looked at it like I was a student of my withdrawl symtoms, learning as I go along getting better.
Example. I felt panic at work about sitting with this group of people at break time. I wanted to avoid them after I felt panic one day , yet I enjoyed others times with them on a break why the panic now???. So observing this and breaking it down I found that I was really panicing about one lady in this group. Even though I liked her very much and she liked me, I only knew her for a short time. And whenever she was at this break time she would sit close to me and direct every question she had towards me, I became the center of attention at this table( not wishing to be) and everyone on the table would look at me and wait for my answers to her questions. I felt exhausted.
Next time I decided that I would only sit there for a very short time and have a reason to leave.
I did this quit a few times when she was there , but made sure that when I saw her at other times in the office I'd talk to her a bit . After awhile I was able to sit at that table and she would direct her talks to others and not only to me. I felt safe and my panic went away with that issue.
I know I will feel these things again when I cut down . So I will be working through this again: in on step at a time.
Hang in there it will get better!!!!
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:37 PM   #8
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Evelyn,
Sounds good the way you are managing. Was wondering if you have any other worries at work. I sometimes feel like i talk stupidity or talk too much, always worry that people kind of know what i'm going thru. It can be very uncomfortable at times, esp. if i get exhaustion or weird vision. I guess i try to fake it that i am fine and things are fine.....hope they have no clue what i'm going thru.

I so hear you though about being uncomfortable being around certain people at work. I think w/d requires time alone to kind of just focus and being the center of attention is not always fun. (esp. nosy people asking questions!).

As far as kids and anger i am also trying really hard not to get all angry. Have a rough spot with one child who had a fight at school and doesn't want to go to school. Am trying not to lose it though and think rationally. I do get very out of sorts when they don't listen or i'm feeling overwhelmed.....or they aren't in bed and it's very late.

We have these meetings from my job requiring alot of socializing and hi' hi's to all these people. As a matter of fact, this job requires complete socializing most of the time, with customers and workers and it seems a bit much at times. But in a way it's a way to vent......because i can say the same thing to 10 different people loll to let it out haha. We all complain to one another though.. i am just choosy what i complain about to not let on about paxil.. etc. In a sense i feel a comfort zone at work because i know the people for a while now....so it is sort of like being at home in a way. Makes the w/d symptoms more tolerable as opposed to if i was at a new place of employment or whatever.

Just hope to get through this.....am waiting a bit and then will drop a bit more. Didn't sleep too well last night though......hope that doesn't happen anymore.

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Old 10-24-2007, 06:29 PM   #9
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Sounds good the way you are managing. Was wondering if you have any other worries at work. I sometimes feel like i talk stupidity or talk too much, always worry that people kind of know what i'm going thru. It can be very uncomfortable at times, esp. if i get exhaustion or weird vision. I guess i try to fake it that i am fine and things are fine.....hope they have no clue what i'm going thru.

I so hear you though about being uncomfortable being around certain people at work. I think w/d requires time alone to kind of just focus and being the center of attention is not always fun. (esp. nosy people asking questions!).

As far as kids and anger i am also trying really hard not to get all angry. Have a rough spot with one child who had a fight at school and doesn't want to go to school. Am trying not to lose it though and think rationally. I do get very out of sorts when they don't listen or i'm feeling overwhelmed.....or they aren't in bed and it's very late.

We have these meetings from my job requiring alot of socializing and hi' hi's to all these people. As a matter of fact, this job requires complete socializing most of the time, with customers and workers and it seems a bit much at times. But in a way it's a way to vent......because i can say the same thing to 10 different people loll to let it out haha. We all complain to one another though.. i am just choosy what i complain about to not let on about paxil.. etc. In a sense i feel a comfort zone at work because i know the people for a while now....so it is sort of like being at home in a way. Makes the w/d symptoms more tolerable as opposed to if i was at a new place of employment or whatever.

Just hope to get through this.....am waiting a bit and then will drop a bit more. Didn't sleep too well last night though......hope that doesn't happen anymore.

thanx for your reply Jill
Hi Jill, I sent you a reply but when I sent it ,It went who knows where !!!!
Yes I do have the same worries at work. I think I sound stupid and what i want to say just doesn't seem to come out the way I'm thinking it.!!!! Frustrating!!!! I try to keep a sense of humor about it though. At times I talk way too much. I'm feeling it, that I'm doing it , but I let it roll on before i give a sigh and just stop dead. YAH.
I get very out of sorts too with my teen girls. It seems like there is one thing after another. When it gets overwhelming I get tired and emotional and want to just run away. When that happens I know it's time again to do the things I like and what relaxes me .So I can think again a choose another route with them.
The fight at school would worry me too. Was it a girl fight or boy fight, elementary or High school ?????
Hang in there and let me know.
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Old 10-24-2007, 10:43 PM   #10
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The fight was with another boy who turned a few others against him. They are all 12.

I thnk the trick is when you feel it is emotionally overwhelming and being in w/d as we are......to just sort of detach somehow when things get overheated. Esp. hard when something hits the fan though.. still working on that!

Work is also a challenge, unpredictable moods. Yesterday for instance i was functional with some energy for the first 3 hours and then fizzled out and turned dizzy and shaky with a really bad headache. Tried to nurse it with oj and something healthy to eat. Didn't really subside until i was on the way home though.

Also trying to remember to take fish oil be4 leaving the house for work.

Been fighting nonstop with bf for no reason about just anything that bugs me. Just picking arguments and things disturb me easily.

When will your next drop be? What will you base it on? Do you want to drop only when there aren't any symptoms and you feel stable.. I'm not sure how to judge the next drop.

thanx for ur reply Jill
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Jill, I've got down to 6.5mg and having some similar issues. Very irritable, very grumpy, very tired, had a few heated arguments at work, blowing up at the kids for minor things, no patience with anyone or anything. I really admire Evelyn for being able to 'stop for a moment', as I just seem to blow up without being able to stop it!

This morning the traffic was bad, I was late getting my daughter to school, couldn't get a park, and so on, and eventually I did burst into tears, which actually helped me to feel a bit better afterwards!

I do find I need to relax and rest a lot, so at home I insist on having some 'me time', I read books or watch TV or have a nap.
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:09 PM   #12
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I also admire that and think it is something to strive for. I'm beginning to believe that all of these "emotions" that are so intense can somehow be controlled if you don't let them control you.

It definitely seems like a fight but they do pass. For me it seems like this overwhelming emotion, sometimes so intense i don't know what to do with it and feel panicy.

I think there is a way to overcome it .. perhaps by trying to think rationally instead of letting the emotion take over. Maybe to tap into the "i don't care" attitude from our higher dosages.....that we know so well.

It's of course harder to do when your just feeling horrible and moods are all haywire. Think it's just a matter of time. Me time is always good .. or a time out from the situation.

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Sometimes when I'm in a bad mood I find it helps to just accept it and stop fighting it, I think we put a lot of pressure on ourselves to feel good all the time. Accepting that we are feeling bad helps us to live in the moment and accept all our emotions instead of fighting them. I think we always feel like we should be 'doing something about it', when it can be better to just live through it knowing the bad mood will pass eventually. But of course it is important to try not to take it out on other people!
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:37 PM   #14
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Hey anjiilian,
I know what you are going thru. It will get better. I get alot of the withdrawl symptoms every time i drop the dose. I helps to get the liquid Paxil so that you can taper off alot slower. I started at 30 mg of the regular Paxil in tablet form started to cut down all the way to 10 mg. Then I switched to the liquid form and went down .5 mg at a time. I am now finally at 1mg. I must say the last 2 drops have been very hard to deal with. The symptoms do subside after a while sometimes for me it takes 1 month or so for the symptoms to pass. GOOD LUCK!!
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The fight was with another boy who turned a few others against him. They are all 12.

I thnk the trick is when you feel it is emotionally overwhelming and being in w/d as we are......to just sort of detach somehow when things get overheated. Esp. hard when something hits the fan though.. still working on that!

Work is also a challenge, unpredictable moods. Yesterday for instance i was functional with some energy for the first 3 hours and then fizzled out and turned dizzy and shaky with a really bad headache. Tried to nurse it with oj and something healthy to eat. Didn't really subside until i was on the way home though.

Also trying to remember to take fish oil be4 leaving the house for work.

Been fighting nonstop with bf for no reason about just anything that bugs me. Just picking arguments and things disturb me easily.

When will your next drop be? What will you base it on? Do you want to drop only when there aren't any symptoms and you feel stable.. I'm not sure how to judge the next drop.

thanx for ur reply Jill
Hello Jill,
Your boy must be in grade 6 or 7. This grade a very difficult time for the kids and the parents. I get angry just thinking about my daughter back then in grade 7. One of her bf ( this one was always wicked) tried to run her out of their small group of friends.They were also in the same class, so everyday when my daughter would go into class and sit with her friends , this one girl would give the other girls a dirty look, and they would walk away from my daughter. I found out later they were also afraid of this one girl and didn't want this to happen to them so they went along. They did this on the school grounds start a fight or argument then tell her to go away they didn't want her. and my daughter would end up standing there alone. My daughter felt so sick , she didn't want to go to school, and she started not to sleep at night. I felt sick to my stomach too.
I just said enough is enough!!!! I told my daughter , You just got to pull yourself out of her game. She's getting away with it because she knows you still want to belong and she's got the power. I said You take over the power now!!!!! Say to yourself and think this to yourself when you look at her..I DO NOT WANT YOU AS MY FRIEND NOW!!! she will see this in your eyes that you mean it.
Everyday when you go to school and see your friends you say hi to them, then walk away and do your own thing. You come home everyday for lunch so you are not in the school yard so wicked can play her game . When you walk into wicked give [her a look like you don't care to have her as your friend and walk away. Trust me it may feel lonely for a while but it will work and you will feel that you have the power now.
My daughter did this for 3 weeks and all her old friends came back to her one by one. The wicked one didn't have my daughter around to play her game with anymore and the others got so tired of this girls control on them they also started to walk away.
we were so glad this worked. I wish you well for this stage is hard.

I will drop when I feel a little more solid, I feel i still swing a bit into dissociation
and lightness, if that makes any sense. and when my stomach settles a little more. It is getting there , better everyday. I may drop first week of Dec. to 4.
I don't wait till I'm symptom free, the other symptoms i can handle like the odd dizziness, head zaps , but its the nervous stomach thing and the lightness thing that scares me. A good judgement for me to cut down is when I'm not scared or really worried about it. then I know I'm ready to try.
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Jill, I've got down to 6.5mg and having some similar issues. Very irritable, very grumpy, very tired, had a few heated arguments at work, blowing up at the kids for minor things, no patience with anyone or anything. I really admire Evelyn for being able to 'stop for a moment', as I just seem to blow up without being able to stop it!

This morning the traffic was bad, I was late getting my daughter to school, couldn't get a park, and so on, and eventually I did burst into tears, which actually helped me to feel a bit better afterwards!

I do find I need to relax and rest a lot, so at home I insist on having some 'me time', I read books or watch TV or have a nap.
Hello Songbird,
I relate to what you're saying, For me I use to blow up without being able to stop it. And boy did I blow at times...really scary and my kids would just look at me like I was insane. I was mad! a lot of times I had good reason to being angry but my anger would just get a hold of me and i would pace and spew out whatever I thought my family needed to hear from me. I wasn't that bad before paxil withdrawl.
I worked really hard to find out when i was starting to get into that state. For me my starting point was I'd start to feel agitated and my shoulders would feel really tense. When that happen I decided to say something then, or do something for me at that point. like, you're not doing what i need you to do. they'd roll their eyes and I'd say again I want it done, then I'd walk away.

When I use to let things go on further( not speaking up, doing to much etc.) and more daily stress was added Watch out that roll of the eyes would have been it. Once in that melt down it's hard to back out, it just rolls.Your brain just seems to shut off and it snow balls.
Crying works for me. When I get to frustrated and I'm pacing and I don't know how to handle this and I just want to blow. I walk into another room and cry,I start to feel better then and try to resolve things more calmly. I'm not perfect at this , It's still trial and error some days.
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Old 10-26-2007, 03:37 PM   #18
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Evelyn,
Thanks for your advice about my son. It's great that worked for your daughter. I think he will be going back because he spoke with the teacher. Hope it works out. I had to literally detach from this situation to prevent freaking out. I normally don't do that but this time around i realized i simply cannot handle it emotionally and with w/d so things will have to just happen in the right time. This fight was physical and about a kid who is much bigger/stronger than my kid who also was his best friend. Kind of a touchy matter, but i believe in time things work out. I tried every talk in the book to get him to take charge but he still felt very scared. I do understand how he feels because noone likes to have to worry they will be punched in the face when they get to school. I hope things get back on track soon.

I hear what you mean about waiting to drop. I just posted asking whether to drop a bit more but don't think i will if i still have symptoms. I don't have zaps as of yet but the dizziness i've been dealing with for a while now and so used to it (even it's not fun). The stomach nervousness/chest and lightheadedness is a real pain and i'm hoping it will go away soon. How is your sleep? I'm finding i get this adrenaline rush/sort of connected to the stomach nervousness that is keeping me awake. I hope this doesn't last long because i need to work!.. and need a good night sleep. What are you taking (if anything) to relax. Are you using any herbal remedies or anything, magnesium?

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Old 10-27-2007, 10:03 AM   #19
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Jill. Day 12 P free...Went from 20-10 for 4 weeks. First week tough, then things got better. First week after going from 10-5mg was also tough. Beginning of third week of 5mg I was surprised to get thru a morning at work without taking P. At 2pm thought I'd see how long I could last. When I got home decided to give stopping a try...Very lethargic at night, lightheadedness is mild to moderate but tolerable. Mild headaches. Quality sleep inconsistent. Focus, thinking up and down...Rage/Anger biggest surprise for me, very patient and easy going...Even dropped a big F bomb at work and immediately thought to myself...P....Damn P...Exercise and rest help me...Eating too...I take melatonin when I really need to sleep but generaly try to go without. I read that lethicin has something good for all this...Lots of water too...Hang in there...
My former MD gave me P for a sleeping problem a number of years ago. My new MD said he would not use P for that type of issue and encouraged a gradual taper...Former MD did not say anything about side effects (sexual, weight gain, withdrawal) and I accidentally stopped taking P for a couple of days when I was out of town and did not have it with me...That was a big wake up call.....God speed on your withdrawal, it does get better..Muir
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Welcome, muir. That is an incredibly fast taper. Incredibly fast. We recommend drops of around 10% of current dose every 3-5 weeks. You did 50% drops every 2 weeks, it looks like. It's important to realize that the symptoms of a taper might not even show up for 2-3 weeks, so you may just now be feeling the longer term results of the first taper to 10 in addition to the initial results of the second taper. As far as I'm concerned, the result of your taper will feel like cold turkey. I know--I did something similar and the long term results have been equivalent to cold turkey.

Obviously, what you do is your personal choice, but know that you do not have to go through what you are going through at all. It will not just 'get the drug out of your system' to let you heal more quickly. It just leaves the brain in chaos with no idea how to cope for much longer than those who slowly help their brains learn to function without paxil.

Good luck to you and I hope you feel better soon.
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Old 10-27-2007, 02:45 PM   #21
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Thanks for your advice about my son. It's great that worked for your daughter. I think he will be going back because he spoke with the teacher. Hope it works out. I had to literally detach from this situation to prevent freaking out. I normally don't do that but this time around i realized i simply cannot handle it emotionally and with w/d so things will have to just happen in the right time. This fight was physical and about a kid who is much bigger/stronger than my kid who also was his best friend. Kind of a touchy matter, but i believe in time things work out. I tried every talk in the book to get him to take charge but he still felt very scared. I do understand how he feels because noone likes to have to worry they will be punched in the face when they get to school. I hope things get back on track soon.

I hear what you mean about waiting to drop. I just posted asking whether to drop a bit more but don't think i will if i still have symptoms. I don't have zaps as of yet but the dizziness i've been dealing with for a while now and so used to it (even it's not fun). The stomach nervousness/chest and lightheadedness is a real pain and i'm hoping it will go away soon. How is your sleep? I'm finding i get this adrenaline rush/sort of connected to the stomach nervousness that is keeping me awake. I hope this doesn't last long because i need to work!.. and need a good night sleep. What are you taking (if anything) to relax. Are you using any herbal remedies or anything, magnesium?

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Hi Jill, I feel for you about your son. I have 3 brothers and each have there stories. Hang in.

The stomach nervousness is what I really don't like and the adrenaline rush for me feels like ,when you are at the top of a ferris wheel just going over the edge and down.
When i feel this at night I lie on my back with both hands flat on my stomach, the warmth of my hands seems to settle my stomach after awhile. I also do deep breathing ( 4 counts in 4 counts out) while my hand is on my stomach.
This may sound weird but it has work for me so far.
What also works if you need a nights sleep is take some liquid gravel, this really relaxes your stomach and calms you. This work really well for my Husband. He had 4 nights with no sleep because he was freaked out about an work exam he had to pass. He needed to sleep. I found out about this trick from astronauts who go up in space. they do this.
I have to do yoga to relax or go out for a walk and breath in the air. If i don't do one or the other I start to feel very agitated.
I'm not so good at taking vitamins, but everyone seems to recommend them on this site . So when I cut lower and lower I will try this.
Hope this helps a bit. take care.
Evelyn you can get gravol in pill form also.

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Old 10-27-2007, 03:01 PM   #22
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Hi,

What is liquid gravel......sounds scary loll.. I also used to do yoga in my prepaxil days, also the deep breathing, diet, the works. My discontinuing this, unhealthy habits began, drinking heavy coffee, stress all contributed to a bad state of mind, imbalance and then my paxil experience. I regret not continuing then because i feel so unhealthy due to this whole thing.

Am trying to keep some sort of diet after seeing photos of myself and being in shock at how horrible i look now. I'm definitely craving sugar, carbs and think it may be a connection to serotonin? Not sure. Trying so hard to start taking care of myself after so long.....doing the opposite.

Whatever helps you is good for the stomach nerves and adrenaline rush. I had this bizarre feeling this afternoon with this horrible tense feeling out of nowhere. I did take fish oil and i felt better.

Tg managed to convince my son to get bck to school tomorrow.. hope all goes well. My biggest challenge right now is work and every day is another roller coaster ride. Hard to predict how i will feel, moods, nerves etc. Just trying to get in enough sleep and rest so i won't be exhausted and nervous.

I'm trying to get aquainted with myself again, if that makes sense. I know it will take time but how long can a person live in a cloud? I am also realizing i am displeased with a 4 year relationship that i could only deal with on paxil. Feeling like i need time away from this person and seeing suddenly all the things i ignored for so long. This isn't easy, but i suppose it's part of regaining myself and what i want and need.

Even u don't like vitamins you should try magnesium citrate. It's really relaxing and could make a difference. The fish oil for me affects moods, so when i feel a bit negative it can help with that.

hang in there and thanks,
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Old 10-28-2007, 03:24 PM   #23
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Evelyn, the breathing you are doing doesn't sound weird to me, it sounds spot on as I learned from a specialist breathing physiotherapist. You can also do this with a 1kg bag of rice placed on your lower tummy, to encourage deep (belly) breathing.

I've had the carb cravings too, I believe it is withdrawal-related, the body trying to get more serotonin.

I am taking fish oil and magesium citrate also. I use valerian to help me sleep, and occasionally during the day for severe irritability or anxiety.
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:39 PM   #24
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Hi,

What is liquid gravel......sounds scary loll.. I also used to do yoga in my prepaxil days, also the deep breathing, diet, the works. My discontinuing this, unhealthy habits began, drinking heavy coffee, stress all contributed to a bad state of mind, imbalance and then my paxil experience. I regret not continuing then because i feel so unhealthy due to this whole thing.

Am trying to keep some sort of diet after seeing photos of myself and being in shock at how horrible i look now. I'm definitely craving sugar, carbs and think it may be a connection to serotonin? Not sure. Trying so hard to start taking care of myself after so long.....doing the opposite.

Whatever helps you is good for the stomach nerves and adrenaline rush. I had this bizarre feeling this afternoon with this horrible tense feeling out of nowhere. I did take fish oil and i felt better.

Tg managed to convince my son to get bck to school tomorrow.. hope all goes well. My biggest challenge right now is work and every day is another roller coaster ride. Hard to predict how i will feel, moods, nerves etc. Just trying to get in enough sleep and rest so i won't be exhausted and nervous.

I'm trying to get aquainted with myself again, if that makes sense. I know it will take time but how long can a person live in a cloud? I am also realizing i am displeased with a 4 year relationship that i could only deal with on paxil. Feeling like i need time away from this person and seeing suddenly all the things i ignored for so long. This isn't easy, but i suppose it's part of regaining myself and what i want and need.

Even u don't like vitamins you should try magnesium citrate. It's really relaxing and could make a difference. The fish oil for me affects moods, so when i feel a bit negative it can help with that.

hang in there and thanks,
Jill
Hi Jill,
Thanks for the info .I will try Magnesium citrate and everyone says fish oil is good : I will try it too.

Gravel is the stuff you gave your child if they got car or bus sick and you had a long trip to go on. Also when kids in elementary school went to out door school on the long bus trip parents would give the liquid to the child so they didn't throw-up on the bus. It comes in pill form for adults. It relaxes your stomach and calms too.

I know what you mean about the relationship thing. I'm still dealing with that one with my husband . Tough stuff when you know that paxil is helping you to tolerate the issues somewhat . What happens after the paxil is my thought

I've noticed on this site when others send a reply, they can just capture a sentence or two from the other person post and reply to it. i only know how to click on the quote and reply that way ??? see above i have everything you wrote , what if I wanted shorten it ???? do you know how to do this?

In the mean time hang in
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Old 10-31-2007, 03:29 PM   #25
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You can just remove the stuff you don't want from the quoted text.
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