Since Month 9.... - Page 2

12-05-2007, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mapleleafgirl25

things just seem to be getting worse..i had mega anxiety and depression in that month..along with muscle twitches..and a weird chest spasam..insommnia and loss of appetite...now in month 10..i am so exhausted..i still dont sleep well..i feel no joy in things..no desire for the foods i love...i still have the twitches and the spasam in my chest..i get pains all over my body..i feel irritable..and angry..i fear so many things..i cry all the time now..i dont know what is going on..its scaring me...i want to be able to play with my little girl and be happy again..i feel so discouraged..that this will be my life..and the withdrawal will never end..its almost 10.5 months now..and i have not felt that great since day 1 of going off paxil..

michele

wow - i feel so disencouraged right now. you´ve been off 10.5 months and i´ve been off not even a full month. i´m losing al hope.

LCrawford67 · 12-05-2007, 05:15 AM

You can't compare anyone's situation to yours. Each of us is different. Michele's story is very different than yours.

jeanie · 12-05-2007, 05:20 AM

helpme.....you can never lose hope!! Everyone has different and varying degrees of withdrawal symptoms. When I was tapering I was alittle nauseous and had a dull headache. I was fine for 6 months after totally off the paxil, then had insomnia and jerking at night. ( But much of this was due to stress of a family reunion in Florida, and my parents visiting for a week.). Anyways, I have felt like I did prepaxil since that summer episode. Never give up hope. You will be just fine, it just takes time.

Mapleleafgirl.....I will pray for you, I am so hoping you will start feeling well, so you can enoy the holidays with your daughter and hubby!

mapleleafgirl25 · 12-05-2007, 08:45 AM

i am just writing this holliday off..i feel terrible right now...and yes my situation is different..i tapered faster...you will be just fine..you tapered slow..

Johnnny off Paxil · 12-05-2007, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mapleleafgirl25

i am just writing this holliday off..i feel terrible right now...and yes my situation is different..i tapered faster...you will be just fine..you tapered slow..

Michele..I thought so.. this is a normal thing to do, when the holiday season comes we want it to be "Norman Rockwell" perfect and for it to be a memorable one..even more so given the terrible things we experience during withdrawal.
Thats ok......but it does not factor in your present health condition and therefor lacks compassion..for you.

Just take one day at a time and do the best you can, I myself have no idea how I am going to be a few weeks from now, there might be another relapse and yes I guess I would get angry, scared and frustrated.....but thats my "reaction"..in the end I will have to dig myself out of this one with patience and care...the idea is that no matter what happens on this journey..I promise to be good to myself, to be kind...inspite of my hopes being dashed.
Lastly, Lao Tzu had something interesting to say about "hope and fear".. though it is perfectly normal for us humans to "want to have hope" and "unable to live without hope"....his understanding was that we need to get beyond this trap.....with hope/gain..there is always in the back of our minds the fear of loss/hopelessness...Lao Tzu's understanding is that out "will to live" is not "hinged or based upon" this..that our perseverance moves beyond hope and fear..but that in order to do this...you need to "know" that there is something beyond that. We come to that place often in states of meditation or prayer...these extremely lucid moments..some people say they have then when they are experiencing an accident or in a plane crash.
So whether things are gone well or things are going badly...there is less "wear and tear" on you emotionally , because in a sense you become detached..from these expectations..this "detachment" gives you the emotional freedom to experience life's "ups and downs"..but YOU ..are able to keep the stable centre....think about this and about what I am saying..because in withdrawal..this is a very important and useful tool..one that may even help you survive the journey. Remember when I say "detached" I don't mean aloof..or callous or emotionally numb or that you throw your hopes into the waste basket...I mean just detached enough to allow things to happen....you know..like when I am sailing off Spanish Banks, I hold the rudder and sail rope, not tightly in my hands..if a sudden gust of wind came It would wrench my back and arms..no ..I hold the rudder and rope just firmly enough to control the direction, but detached enough, relaxed enough..to enjoy the sailing experience and to allow the "wind energy" to work for me...rather than fighting it...does that make any sense?

Regards, Johnny

roy100 · 12-05-2007, 10:17 AM

What a great article, thanks so much to your contribution.

It makes a lot of sense, and gives hope to many people.

The 9 month mark its a benchmark.

I can only remember a great post that gave me hope when I was in that situation that told me to wait at least oye year before really re-thinking anything.
Thanks.
roy100

scotty · 12-05-2007, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by helpmeleave5

wow - i feel so disencouraged right now. you´ve been off 10.5 months and i´ve been off not even a full month. i´m losing al hope.

Don't compare your situation. Michele's is more complicated. On paxil, off paxil, had a child, back on paxil, then off again(if I remember correctly).

12-05-2007, 05:15 AM	#27
LCrawford67 Moderator "Everybody poops" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 34,485	Re: Since Month 9.... You can't compare anyone's situation to yours. Each of us is different. Michele's story is very different than yours. __________________ aka LC aka Laurie C. Paxil, 20 mg since 1997, for IBS Two unsuccessful attempts to quit. Started tapering 11/27/06 PAXIL FREE 12/29/07 Today is the best day, EVER!

12-05-2007, 05:20 AM	#28
jeanie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NC Posts: 873	Re: Since Month 9.... helpme.....you can never lose hope!! Everyone has different and varying degrees of withdrawal symptoms. When I was tapering I was alittle nauseous and had a dull headache. I was fine for 6 months after totally off the paxil, then had insomnia and jerking at night. ( But much of this was due to stress of a family reunion in Florida, and my parents visiting for a week.). Anyways, I have felt like I did prepaxil since that summer episode. Never give up hope. You will be just fine, it just takes time. Mapleleafgirl.....I will pray for you, I am so hoping you will start feeling well, so you can enoy the holidays with your daughter and hubby! __________________ Jeanie Nov 4th started the weaning process 10-5 mg Nov. 28th---2.5 mg Dec. 26th--1.25mg Jan 7th----ZERO Scripts taking-ZERO Paxil made me feel sleepy, content and nonchalant. Supplements- Multivitamin, B complex, C, Fish oil, magnesium citrate and E. Therapy- attending church, listening to Christian music and praying. Thank you, PAXILPROGRESS I can do all things thru Christ, who strengthens me.

12-05-2007, 08:45 AM	#29
mapleleafgirl25 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 2,641	Re: Since Month 9.... i am just writing this holliday off..i feel terrible right now...and yes my situation is different..i tapered faster...you will be just fine..you tapered slow.. __________________ 3rd attempt at withdrawal going slow..compounded pills Taper: 05/27/2010 - 03/12/12: Tapered From 20mgs - 6.2 (2years) 04/11/2012 - 6.0 05/10/2012 - 5.8 06/09/2012 - 5.6 07/09/2012 - 5.4 80/08/2012 - 5.2 09/07/2012 - 5.0 10/07/2012 - 4.8 11/06/2012 - 4.6 12/06/2012 - 4.4 01/04/2013 - 4.2 02/03/2013 - 4.0 03/05/2013 - 3.8 04/04/2013 - 3.6 05/05/2013 - 3.4 06/04/2013 - 3.2

12-05-2007, 10:17 AM	#31
roy100 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mexico Posts: 145	Re: Since Month 9.... What a great article, thanks so much to your contribution. It makes a lot of sense, and gives hope to many people. The 9 month mark its a benchmark. I can only remember a great post that gave me hope when I was in that situation that told me to wait at least oye year before really re-thinking anything. Thanks. roy100 __________________ Oct2005 On Remeron 15 mg for no sleep, anxiety, palpitations and no hunger. Jan-May2006 Remeron15-22.5mg. June 2006 Remeron Free August2006 Spiral down to worse depression , RLS, anxiety,Sept2006 Back on Remeron15-22.5 mg, Oct2006 cold turkey Remeron.WD. Oct2007. 90% cured with Electrotherapy. June 2009 Family Problems, Anxiety May 2010 Remeron 30 mg,clonazepan 2 mg for sleep. Dec 2010 7.5 mg Remeron, 225mg Welbutrin Xl. Feb 2011 15 mg Remeron, 150 mg Wellbutrin XL , 2mg Clonazepan.

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