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Join Date: Oct 2006
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hOW CAN WE HAVE FAITH IN DOCTORS
Hi guys,
How in GODS NAME, are people like us supposed to have faith and trust in doctors and the health system, when I was doing some research online and came across this;- According to the HEALTH RESEARCH GROUP, depression CAN come on after the introduction of certain drugs, 15 categories of drugs can bring on depression including a lot of the drugs I have read about on here, although they did state the only treatment for this kind of depression is to STOP or gradually cut down. They also say the older ADS carry a host of side effects, very similar in fact to what we are all experiencing with the new kinds of ads. BUT YOU KNOW, THE THING THAT REALLY GOT ME IS THIS, There was an invitation for readers to record THERE DRUG SIDE EFFECTS", attention was drawn to the fact that thousands of patients were unable to do so, and the reason for this is: " Notes were doctored and their test results were deleted". According to sufferers of latrogenic neglect and other patient groups, "Removing test results and adding false information on medical notes is COMMON PRACTISE. aND THE OTHER THING, " fEW DOCTORS GIVE any MEDICAL HELP TO THOSE DAMAGED BY THE DRUGS THEY HAVE PRESCRIBED. hOW CAN PATIENTS REPORT THE SIDE EFFECTS OF PILLS WHEN THEIR NOTES STATE EVERYTHING "IS ALL IN THE MIND" Information found on HEALTHY.NET WDDTY; what doctors don't tell you. Maybe we should be suing the docs as well as GSK, but then where would it get us, its just ONE BIG COVER UP. It seems we get sicker, and they get richer, and no-one gives a toss about all of us, we are their UNPAID, UNTRUSTWORTHY, LYING, GUINEA PIGS. ANJOPOM
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medicated by doctor for grief. 15th Jan 1997 -Nov 2005 30mg paxil, c/t off by doctor. Dec 05, prozac 20mg, propranelol and 10mg Diazepam. March o6 c/t - doctor. April 06 -Nov 07 20mg paxil, Nov 07 - 18mg, dec 07 -16mg, jan 08 - 14mg, feb -12mg, mar -10mg,jul -9mg,aug -8.5mg,oct -8mg,nov -7.5mg,dec 08-7mg, jan09-6.5mg,feb-6mg, 1st mar-5.5mg,end mar -5mg,apr-4.2mg,CRASHED, may-5mg, aug-4.5mg,sept-3.8mg, oct-3.2mg, oct - 2.8mg, nov, 2.2mg. Currently taking 300mg magnesium!!!!! |
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New Hampshire
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Re: hOW CAN WE HAVE FAITH IN DOCTORS
Absolutely Anjo. A doctor might be useful for fixing a broken leg, but when it comes to the complexity of the human brain which NO ONE understands, the the fact that they think they know how the brain works or what causes depression or how to treat depression or what these drugs can do to you - is the most outrageous, unforgivable ARROGANCE.
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Paxil 2000 - 2003. Started again 3/07 Failed 3-month taper from 30 mg ended 1/1/08. Nightmare started 4 weeks later; back to 10 mg 3/5/08. Down to 9 mg Paxil 10/8/08 *** 8 mg 11/5/08 *** 7.2 mg 12/17/08 *** 6.4 mg 1/14/09 5.7 mg 2/11/09 *** 5 mg 3/11/09 *** 4.5 mg 4/22/09 *** 4 mg 5/13/09 CRASHED, worst ever depression. Up to 5 mg 5/31, 7.5 mg 6/7, 10 mg 6/11. Trying again! Paxil 9.5 mg 7/19/09 *** 9 mg 8/23/09 *** 8.5 mg 9/27/09 *** 8 mg 11/1/09 |
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Long Island NY
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Re: hOW CAN WE HAVE FAITH IN DOCTORS
Rach,
How are you feeling since you stated to dose up?
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Been on this crap since 1995 First taper 10% 2006 20mg to 8mgs crashed My 2nd Taper attempt! 10/01/08 40mgs 12/9/08 36mgs 01/09/09 33mgs ![]() 02/09/09 30mgs 03/12/09 27mgs 04/28/09 24mgs 05/24/09 23mgs 06/09 CBT started 07/21/09 22.5mgs 08/12/09 22mgs 09/03/09 21.5mgs 09/24/09 21mgs 10/16/09 20.5mgs 11/07/09 20mgs |
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Portugal
Posts: 3,696
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Re: hOW CAN WE HAVE FAITH IN DOCTORS
thank God we have INTERNET!!!!
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2002- 10mg diazepam(for a neck pain) 2003- 20mg seroxat(for benzo wd) 2005-stopped diazepam (1 year taper plus acupuncture) 2006-stopped paxil (1 year taper) 3 years free from drugs |
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: grimsby,england
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Re: hOW CAN WE HAVE FAITH IN DOCTORS
oooo this echos so many of my early posts Angie, i hear ya girl but nothing much changes, i tried and failed to sue GSK and my GP and i get no help from any docs that i have seen or even acceptance, its so frustrating it really is
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September 2009, not in severe hell just moderate hell, still recovering Joanne.LITTLE EVIL MEN HIDE BEHIND BIG COMPANY NAMES................QUOTE BY......MOI
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The original" F$%^you "gal,
from the cranky corner! Join Date: May 2006
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Re: hOW CAN WE HAVE FAITH IN DOCTORS
I believe that the more the truth about these medications and their sfx comes out, the bigger backlash there will be against the medical profession, and we will have been on the cutting edge of those who've learned to take charge of their own health and well being.
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Completely free from psychiatry since 8/5/07 If we are fools enough to remain at the mercy of the people who want to sell us happiness, it will be impossible for us to ever be content with anything. How would they profit if we became content? (Thomas Merton) |
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"colors outside the lines"
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Re: hOW CAN WE HAVE FAITH IN DOCTORS
..doctors are vane, egotistical morons...I do not trust them except for the very obvious....not after going through this nightmare....
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"colors outside the lines"
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Re: hOW CAN WE HAVE FAITH IN DOCTORS
...this photo is my mental comparison of all doctors...dr bombay dr bombay emergency come right away.....Attachment 2583
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That's one of the curses of anxiety--we make possibilities into certainties.....Tim |
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Saskatchewan, Canada
Posts: 608
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Re: hOW CAN WE HAVE FAITH IN DOCTORS
there is a theory that doctors get paid money to keep giving us drugs every time they prescribe something. you know...keeping patients coming back and that is how they get paid. Also the drug companies want us to do this too. So because the effects of drugs are hidden...to avoid lawsuits and such keeping the public quiet is the best idea for them right now. Imagine if doctors and scientists came forward and said this stuff we're on is HORRIBLE...imagine the lawsuits..the corporations sued....its like the whole system crumbling. Ignorance to them is bliss.
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"Truth is what stands the test of experience" (Einstein) Feb. 21-08 Paxil 25.0 - 22.5mg March 27-08 20.0mg May 2-08 17.5mg june 5-08 15.0mg july 11-08 12.5mg nausea,heaving july 24-08 15.0mg bit better july 29-08 17.5mg bit better august 4-08 20mg and staying put Synthroid .075MG 2003 |
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Persona Non Grata... I am No Expert on Nothing
Posts: 2,894
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Re: HOW CAN WE HAVE FAITH IN DOCTORS?
HOW CAN WE HAVE FAITH IN DOCTORS?
Faith...and doctors are two different things for me..I think you mean "trust". However the use of the word faith conjures up an interesting connotation..that there exists some "Godlike" divine status with doctors...we "look up to them".... in the 19th century it was a considered a badge of moral authority, man at his best, altruism, love of humanity and compassion. Indeed doctors often give us the is "air of infallibility"..that all their knowledge and information is perfect and flawless and not to be questioned. Of course as time goes on we are seeing a very different image emerge. For me, especially in Canada, I find doctors conservative to the extreme , even orthodox. Much of our health system , is heavily bureaucratic and people in authority hold onto arcane and outdated views. They are closed minded. They bear no respect for the patient and lastly our medical system is being chipped away at the edges by powerful financial groups that want to have health-care for profit, which they have been trying to do in England with absolutely disastrous results. So we also need to look at our doctors as "members of our society" and therefor , fallible and capable of error like anyone else. The bottom line is, you are your best health-care provider, its up to you to get informed and make informed decisions and its up to you to find the right attitude and balance in your life that will lead to health and wholeness. Regards, Johnny |
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Saskatchewan, Canada
Posts: 608
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Re: hOW CAN WE HAVE FAITH IN DOCTORS
I forgot to add that this is why corporations is forcing the gov't to BAN more and more supplements from health food stores. Doctors and pill industries don't get paid for this! Its making it now difficult for health food stores to get some goods in that they usually do. Certain things I agree should not be administered over the counter but when it comes to basic vitamins and such why do you think doctors say 'we don't know anything about the effects of herbal medicine'. IT IS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO KNOW...it affects the amount of patients coming in to get prescriptions from them.
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"Truth is what stands the test of experience" (Einstein) Feb. 21-08 Paxil 25.0 - 22.5mg March 27-08 20.0mg May 2-08 17.5mg june 5-08 15.0mg july 11-08 12.5mg nausea,heaving july 24-08 15.0mg bit better july 29-08 17.5mg bit better august 4-08 20mg and staying put Synthroid .075MG 2003 |
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