fish oil overdose

whalebale · 02-01-2009, 02:29 PM

i read taking too much fish oil can weaken your bones and harden your arteries. How much is too much? i take 1900 mg for the day, and then 900 mg before i go to sleep. i just started taking 900mg before i go to sleep and man its helped. Ive read Imom takes 5000 mg a day and shes improving? How many Mg might constitute an overdose?

whalebale · 02-01-2009, 02:29 PM

by the way today is my 6 month mark off the poison. w00h00

LCrawford67 · 02-01-2009, 02:33 PM

I've never heard that about fish oil, ever. I have read about too much Vitamin A weakening bones.

whalebale · 02-01-2009, 02:37 PM

some recommend 2.5 grams of fish oil which would be around the amount im taking, plus im spacing the doses by day and night which should help

LCrawford67 · 02-01-2009, 02:38 PM

If you feel it's helping, stick too it. Omega three is a food supplement, it's not something you could easily OD on and if you're taking too much, you'll eliminate it.

scotty · 02-01-2009, 02:54 PM

The risk with these is Vitamin A....hard to overdose using a fish oil, but using another type of oil based supplement, such as seal oil, can be a problem since the amount of Vitamin A can be much higher than "traditional" fish oil. I've seen 1.8-2.5 as a "recommended" amount.

RedMed · 02-01-2009, 03:01 PM

Do you find you have any trouble sleeping after taking the fish oil at night? I've read that you aren't supposed to take any after about noon or 1pm as it might interfere with sleep? Just curious...I only take mine in the morning.

whalebale · 02-01-2009, 03:51 PM

oh yeah thats right, i used to be religious about taking my fish oil before noon, but not yet atleast, i sleep fine and wake up feeling energy its quite nice actually

leo79 · 02-01-2009, 08:33 PM

Most studies use 1,2 or 4 grams. I didn't know you could overdose on it. I take 2g. I don't really notice what it does. I hope it helps in some way.

whalebale · 02-01-2009, 09:05 PM

its been helping me

Songbird · 02-02-2009, 03:05 AM

If it is vitamin A that causes the problem, it could be because some people take cod liver oil, which is a kind of fish oil. But the kind of fish oil recommended here is not cod liver oil, but 'omega-3 fish oil'. I've never heard of it hardening arteries or weakening bones, but I've read that it can thin the blood (which is usually a good thing, unless you're on blood-thinning medication already).

karenk · 02-04-2009, 05:26 PM

What about Vitamnin E? According to my bottle 2 capsules of fish oil (the recommended dose) contains 30 I.U. of Vitamin E, which they are saying is 100% of the recommended daily dose. Is it possible that taking more than two capsules will mean that I'm taking too much Vitamin E? Are there any problems with taking too much E?

LCrawford67 · 02-04-2009, 05:30 PM

There's a problem if you take too much of anything. But, you have to take A LOT and you'd have to take over 1000 IUs of vitamin E to be too much.

There are some reports that anything over 400 IUs too much, but what you're taking is fine.

Songbird · 02-04-2009, 06:24 PM

I think the vitamin E may have been added to the capsules as an anti-oxidant, to protect the fish oil from going off.

elixirmonkii · 02-05-2009, 02:34 PM

Just wanted to add that the RDA values are amazingly inaccurate. They are probably a good guideline, but there is no standard for every person, and do not apply to everyone as every "body" is different on metabolism, storage, and diets are quite different as well leading to different deficiencies. Would be nice to not have to go to the hospital or lab for these tests, and simply test vitamin, mineral, nutrient levels at home. Anyone who can make this easy for us might give B. Pharma a run for his money.

karenk · 02-06-2009, 05:21 PM

Thanks for the input. I appreciate it. It's also nice (if that's the right word) to see a Prozac person on here...I always wonder how different things are for Prozac vs. Paxil people.

Scott · 02-06-2009, 05:30 PM

it's important to measure by the dha/efa numbers on the back of the bottle.. not all 1000mg tablets are created equally. Most pills will say they're that dose but depending on the quality, the dha/efa (the actual fats numbers) vary greatly.. 180/120 would be 300mg of total fats in a 1000mg tablet... which would be 30% pure. Scientific grades can be as high as 70% or so. Basically those numbers determine how many you'll have to take to get the benefits.. plus the lower grades have more chance of digestive issues.

LCrawford67 · 02-06-2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by karenk

Thanks for the input. I appreciate it. It's also nice (if that's the right word) to see a Prozac person on here...I always wonder how different things are for Prozac vs. Paxil people.

We have a few Prozac members....I'm sorry I just can't remember all their screen names though!

PROZAC PEOPLE....HOLLLLLAAAAA!!!!

karenk · 03-14-2009, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sensei_Rebel

My bottle says Serving size: 2 softgels, then lists Omega 3 fish oil as 2000mg, 600mg EPA, 400mg DHA. Does that mean 1000mg per 2 pills, or 1 pill? I'm thinking 2 pills but not sure. And is that a good EPA/DHA ratio?

It sounds like it means that 2 pills is 2000mg and includes 600 EPA and 400 DHA. There's always supposed to be more EPA than DHA; that ratio sounds right, and matches most of the ratios I've seen.

karenk · 03-14-2009, 09:22 AM

I've read that in order to get the benefits related to Depression you should be taking at least 1000mg of EPA, but that means about 4000mg of many of these pills. I think that's safe but it seems like most people on here aren't taking that much. Anybody on here taking 4000mg or more?

daisy232627 · 03-14-2009, 01:14 PM

I used to take 3000mg twice daily and it helped for the 2wks, I did it but I couldn't stand taking those huge pills, always felt like they got stuck in my throat. I take flax oil now 5ml a day cause I don't know the equivlence to the fish oil. Anyone know, numbers are definatly my week point, they make my head scramble....ahhhh

Is Flax oil the same, I mean were going for the omega 3s and 6's right?

Songbird · 03-15-2009, 07:23 PM

Yes, fish oil does thin the blood, which shouldn't be a problem unless you are on anti-coagulants or having surgery.

Flax oil does contain omega-3 fatty acids but not long chain omega 3 fatty acids, I've read that the body is not efficient at the conversion, only about 5% gets converted to DHA. So for this reason fish oil is a better source.

As far as omega 6, this mostly comes from grains and our modern day diets are too high in omega 6, we need to increase our ratio of omega3 to omega6, possibly reducing intake of grain-based foods might help. The reason for this is to do with the biochemical pathways these fatty acids take in the body. Omega-6 pushes our metabolism to making more Arachidonic Acid which is associated with inflammation.

02-01-2009, 02:29 PM	#1
whalebale Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 542	fish oil overdose i read taking too much fish oil can weaken your bones and harden your arteries. How much is too much? i take 1900 mg for the day, and then 900 mg before i go to sleep. i just started taking 900mg before i go to sleep and man its helped. Ive read Imom takes 5000 mg a day and shes improving? How many Mg might constitute an overdose?

02-01-2009, 02:29 PM	#2
whalebale Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 542	Re: fish oil overdose by the way today is my 6 month mark off the poison. w00h00

02-01-2009, 02:33 PM	#3
LCrawford67 Moderator "Everybody poops" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 34,484	Re: fish oil overdose I've never heard that about fish oil, ever. I have read about too much Vitamin A weakening bones. __________________ aka LC aka Laurie C. Paxil, 20 mg since 1997, for IBS Two unsuccessful attempts to quit. Started tapering 11/27/06 PAXIL FREE 12/29/07 Today is the best day, EVER!

02-01-2009, 02:37 PM	#4
whalebale Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 542	Re: fish oil overdose some recommend 2.5 grams of fish oil which would be around the amount im taking, plus im spacing the doses by day and night which should help

02-01-2009, 02:38 PM	#5
LCrawford67 Moderator "Everybody poops" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 34,484	Re: fish oil overdose If you feel it's helping, stick too it. Omega three is a food supplement, it's not something you could easily OD on and if you're taking too much, you'll eliminate it. __________________ aka LC aka Laurie C. Paxil, 20 mg since 1997, for IBS Two unsuccessful attempts to quit. Started tapering 11/27/06 PAXIL FREE 12/29/07 Today is the best day, EVER!

02-01-2009, 02:54 PM	#6
scotty Administrator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: new jersey Posts: 46,985	Re: fish oil overdose The risk with these is Vitamin A....hard to overdose using a fish oil, but using another type of oil based supplement, such as seal oil, can be a problem since the amount of Vitamin A can be much higher than "traditional" fish oil. I've seen 1.8-2.5 as a "recommended" amount. __________________ AKA Laurie "Faith is taking the first step even when you don't see the whole staircase." MLK

02-01-2009, 03:01 PM	#7
RedMed Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 188	Re: fish oil overdose Do you find you have any trouble sleeping after taking the fish oil at night? I've read that you aren't supposed to take any after about noon or 1pm as it might interfere with sleep? Just curious...I only take mine in the morning. __________________ Jan '05: Zoloft 50-75mg for depression/anxiety - did nothing Feb '05: Started Paxil CR 25mg Aug '05: Reduced to Paxil CR 12.5mg May 21, 2006: PAXIL FREE June 1, 2007: Resumed Paxil CR 25mg after bout with anixety (probably just withdrawal though) November 1, 2008: Paxil free September 2009: Started Lexapro October 2010: Upped doseage to 10mg November 2010: Began to taper February 2010: off Lexapro July 2010: feeling awful

02-01-2009, 03:51 PM	#8
whalebale Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 542	Re: fish oil overdose oh yeah thats right, i used to be religious about taking my fish oil before noon, but not yet atleast, i sleep fine and wake up feeling energy its quite nice actually

02-01-2009, 08:33 PM	#9
leo79 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,442	Re: fish oil overdose Most studies use 1,2 or 4 grams. I didn't know you could overdose on it. I take 2g. I don't really notice what it does. I hope it helps in some way. __________________ Poisoned by SSRIs.

02-01-2009, 09:05 PM	#10
whalebale Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 542	Re: fish oil overdose its been helping me

02-02-2009, 03:05 AM	#11
Songbird Queen of the appendage vocabulary Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 11,317	Re: fish oil overdose If it is vitamin A that causes the problem, it could be because some people take cod liver oil, which is a kind of fish oil. But the kind of fish oil recommended here is not cod liver oil, but 'omega-3 fish oil'. I've never heard of it hardening arteries or weakening bones, but I've read that it can thin the blood (which is usually a good thing, unless you're on blood-thinning medication already). __________________ Jul 01-Feb 02 Aropax Feb-Dec 03 Citalopram Jul 04 Aropax Jan 07-Feb 08 20mg > 5mg Apr 4.5mg 5mg Jun 10mg Jul 20mg Oct Loxamine Dec 17.5mg 15mg 2009 24 Jan 12.5mg 16 Feb 10mg 10 May 9mg 30 May 8mg 5 July 7.5mg 2 Aug 7.25mg 1 Sep 7mg 9 Oct 6.75mg 8 Nov 6.5mg 18 Dec 6.3mg 2010 30 Aug 6.15mg 28 Nov 6 mg 2011 20 Feb 5.9mg 11 Apr 5.8mg 29 May 5.7mg 24 Jun 5.6mg 17 Sep 5.5mg 2 Nov 5.4mg 26 Dec 5.3mg 2012 19 Feb 5.2mg 14 Oct 5.1mg 6 Dec 5mg 25 Jan 4.9mg

02-04-2009, 05:26 PM	#12
karenk Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 22	Re: fish oil overdose What about Vitamnin E? According to my bottle 2 capsules of fish oil (the recommended dose) contains 30 I.U. of Vitamin E, which they are saying is 100% of the recommended daily dose. Is it possible that taking more than two capsules will mean that I'm taking too much Vitamin E? Are there any problems with taking too much E? __________________ On ADs since 1992 (many of them!) Summer 2006 tried unsuccessfully to wd from Effexor. Tried multiple others, misery. Ended up on Prozac 7/3/07: 40mg Prozac 7/24/07: 30mg Prozac 9/07: 20mg Prozac 6/08: 17.5mg 8/08: 15mg 9/08: 12.5mg 10/08: 10mg Prozac

02-04-2009, 05:30 PM	#13
LCrawford67 Moderator "Everybody poops" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 34,484	Re: fish oil overdose There's a problem if you take too much of anything. But, you have to take A LOT and you'd have to take over 1000 IUs of vitamin E to be too much. There are some reports that anything over 400 IUs too much, but what you're taking is fine. __________________ aka LC aka Laurie C. Paxil, 20 mg since 1997, for IBS Two unsuccessful attempts to quit. Started tapering 11/27/06 PAXIL FREE 12/29/07 Today is the best day, EVER! Last edited by LCrawford67 : 02-04-2009 at 05:35 PM. Reason: Added something

02-04-2009, 06:24 PM	#14
Songbird Queen of the appendage vocabulary Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 11,317	Re: fish oil overdose I think the vitamin E may have been added to the capsules as an anti-oxidant, to protect the fish oil from going off. __________________ Jul 01-Feb 02 Aropax Feb-Dec 03 Citalopram Jul 04 Aropax Jan 07-Feb 08 20mg > 5mg Apr 4.5mg 5mg Jun 10mg Jul 20mg Oct Loxamine Dec 17.5mg 15mg 2009 24 Jan 12.5mg 16 Feb 10mg 10 May 9mg 30 May 8mg 5 July 7.5mg 2 Aug 7.25mg 1 Sep 7mg 9 Oct 6.75mg 8 Nov 6.5mg 18 Dec 6.3mg 2010 30 Aug 6.15mg 28 Nov 6 mg 2011 20 Feb 5.9mg 11 Apr 5.8mg 29 May 5.7mg 24 Jun 5.6mg 17 Sep 5.5mg 2 Nov 5.4mg 26 Dec 5.3mg 2012 19 Feb 5.2mg 14 Oct 5.1mg 6 Dec 5mg 25 Jan 4.9mg

02-05-2009, 02:34 PM	#15
elixirmonkii Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Northern California Posts: 395	Re: fish oil overdose Just wanted to add that the RDA values are amazingly inaccurate. They are probably a good guideline, but there is no standard for every person, and do not apply to everyone as every "body" is different on metabolism, storage, and diets are quite different as well leading to different deficiencies. Would be nice to not have to go to the hospital or lab for these tests, and simply test vitamin, mineral, nutrient levels at home. Anyone who can make this easy for us might give B. Pharma a run for his money. __________________ Prior to fluoxetine, I ingested a few MAOI cocktails, and had used various stimulants (ephedra) years ago. This is likely why I reacted so badly to this drug. 7/14/08 - Severe reaction to Prozac & Ativan! 7/15/08 - Discontinued all meds! First 2 years: Extreme Derealization/DP Extreme agitation & akathisia Unable to understand people Severe negative thoughts. Constant restlessness inside, anxiety & agitation, and anhedonia. Now: 85% stable

02-06-2009, 05:21 PM	#16
karenk Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 22	Re: fish oil overdose Thanks for the input. I appreciate it. It's also nice (if that's the right word) to see a Prozac person on here...I always wonder how different things are for Prozac vs. Paxil people. __________________ On ADs since 1992 (many of them!) Summer 2006 tried unsuccessfully to wd from Effexor. Tried multiple others, misery. Ended up on Prozac 7/3/07: 40mg Prozac 7/24/07: 30mg Prozac 9/07: 20mg Prozac 6/08: 17.5mg 8/08: 15mg 9/08: 12.5mg 10/08: 10mg Prozac

02-06-2009, 05:30 PM	#17
Scott Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: somewhere in between Posts: 11,591	Re: fish oil overdose it's important to measure by the dha/efa numbers on the back of the bottle.. not all 1000mg tablets are created equally. Most pills will say they're that dose but depending on the quality, the dha/efa (the actual fats numbers) vary greatly.. 180/120 would be 300mg of total fats in a 1000mg tablet... which would be 30% pure. Scientific grades can be as high as 70% or so. Basically those numbers determine how many you'll have to take to get the benefits.. plus the lower grades have more chance of digestive issues. __________________ Scott aka Scott What has happened to it all? Crazy, some are saying Where is the life that I recognize? Gone away But I won't cry for yesterday There's an ordinary world Somehow I have to find And as I try to make my way To the ordinary world I will learn to survive surviving an ssri reaction alternative anxiety treatments

03-14-2009, 09:22 AM	#23
karenk Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 22	Re: fish oil overdose I've read that in order to get the benefits related to Depression you should be taking at least 1000mg of EPA, but that means about 4000mg of many of these pills. I think that's safe but it seems like most people on here aren't taking that much. Anybody on here taking 4000mg or more? __________________ On ADs since 1992 (many of them!) Summer 2006 tried unsuccessfully to wd from Effexor. Tried multiple others, misery. Ended up on Prozac 7/3/07: 40mg Prozac 7/24/07: 30mg Prozac 9/07: 20mg Prozac 6/08: 17.5mg 8/08: 15mg 9/08: 12.5mg 10/08: 10mg Prozac

03-14-2009, 01:14 PM	#24
daisy232627 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: dallas, texas Posts: 226	Re: fish oil overdose I used to take 3000mg twice daily and it helped for the 2wks, I did it but I couldn't stand taking those huge pills, always felt like they got stuck in my throat. I take flax oil now 5ml a day cause I don't know the equivlence to the fish oil. Anyone know, numbers are definatly my week point, they make my head scramble....ahhhh Is Flax oil the same, I mean were going for the omega 3s and 6's right? __________________ started Paxil 20mg 07/01 weaned 3mo Paxil free 08/02 back on 10/02 for panic/anxiety tried wean again 05/03 too quick failed under doc's instructions (didn't know it was too quick, I thought I was just screwed for life) tried to wean again sometime prior to finding pp-still thinking I'm screwed 06/03 Paxil CR 25mgs 2004 changed to generic 20mg costs less 03/06 back to Paxil CR 25mg-Panic/anxiety 01/2008 start weaning AGAIN 03/2009 Paxil 10mg

03-15-2009, 07:23 PM	#25
Songbird Queen of the appendage vocabulary Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 11,317	Re: fish oil overdose Yes, fish oil does thin the blood, which shouldn't be a problem unless you are on anti-coagulants or having surgery. Flax oil does contain omega-3 fatty acids but not long chain omega 3 fatty acids, I've read that the body is not efficient at the conversion, only about 5% gets converted to DHA. So for this reason fish oil is a better source. As far as omega 6, this mostly comes from grains and our modern day diets are too high in omega 6, we need to increase our ratio of omega3 to omega6, possibly reducing intake of grain-based foods might help. The reason for this is to do with the biochemical pathways these fatty acids take in the body. Omega-6 pushes our metabolism to making more Arachidonic Acid which is associated with inflammation. __________________ Jul 01-Feb 02 Aropax Feb-Dec 03 Citalopram Jul 04 Aropax Jan 07-Feb 08 20mg > 5mg Apr 4.5mg 5mg Jun 10mg Jul 20mg Oct Loxamine Dec 17.5mg 15mg 2009 24 Jan 12.5mg 16 Feb 10mg 10 May 9mg 30 May 8mg 5 July 7.5mg 2 Aug 7.25mg 1 Sep 7mg 9 Oct 6.75mg 8 Nov 6.5mg 18 Dec 6.3mg 2010 30 Aug 6.15mg 28 Nov 6 mg 2011 20 Feb 5.9mg 11 Apr 5.8mg 29 May 5.7mg 24 Jun 5.6mg 17 Sep 5.5mg 2 Nov 5.4mg 26 Dec 5.3mg 2012 19 Feb 5.2mg 14 Oct 5.1mg 6 Dec 5mg 25 Jan 4.9mg

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