Blackbox paxil

[anjopom]

Hey guys,

You know it never ceases to amaze me just how many youngster there is on this board, kids who have been given paxil young ages, heck wtf is wrong with these doctors.

Anyway the point of my writing this is to say, that if paxil is blackboxed for this age group, due to the fact that it has the potential to cause suicidal thoughts and behaviour, why is it not blackboxed for public use in general.

I know without any shred of a doubt that in w/d this drug causes suicidal thoughts and behaviour, whats the difference to the human brain of say a 16yr old as opposed to a 40yr old - they all work the same way, none of us are any different.

If anyone is gonna say that some 16yr old havent got the mettle required to get through the trauma of dropping this drug, whats to say someone of 40 plus has, this drug affects us all very badly, cant we do something here to get this blackboxed for all.

Its not just youngsters who commit suicide coming off this junk.!!!!!!!, it can happen to anyone of any age group or gender.

Anjopom

[texgirl]

Actually, young people's brains are different from adults', and are still growing and developing.

Not that I don't agree with you that Paxil should be blackboxed for everybody.

My mom called last night to ask me if Paxil causes Restless Legs Syndrome. (I told her most definitely; is it any coincidence that GSK also makes Requip?) She was on the phone with her best friend, who has been on some kind of AD or another for 30+ years. My first thought was, "Paxil strikes again."

[pax80]

here it's comercialised with no warnings.

Ritalin is also bad, it's made from cocaine.

[scotty]

Paxil is blackboxed for up to age 25 only because the clinical trials didn't "catch" the suicidality in those over 25. Small trials, limited time use and horrible data collection in all the trials, but they are the "standard" for documenting problems.

The risk is the same across the age groups.

[carolyn]

Originally Posted by pax80

Ritalin is also bad, it's made from cocaine.

I don't think that's true; I think the two are just chemically similar. My husband was on Ritalin (as an adult) for a little while and he did a bit of research into it.

[samantha]

The whole "not prescribing to under 18" (in my opinion) has nothing to due with trials or noticing that people at that age have more severe suicidal tendency, but that in the USA, people under the age of 18 are considered minors, and not "as" responsible for their own actions, and the concept of a drug causing a kid to kill themselves is too much for society to accept. But if someone over 18 does it - they are an adult and in control of their own actions, so in some twisted sense it is more acceptable. The whole thing is absolutely ridiculous in my opinion. Definitely the brain is developing a lot more when you are young, but what is ironic about it is that I was taking the drug when I was under 18 and never had suicidal tendency's from it (and I withdrawled back then successfully). A few years later, My last withdrawl actually made me suicidal for the first time in my life (I was 23 then.)

[scotty]

Originally Posted by samantha

The whole "not prescribing to under 18" (in my opinion) has nothing to due with trials or noticing that people at that age have more severe suicidal tendency, but that in the USA, people under the age of 18 are considered minors, and not "as" responsible for their own actions, and the concept of a drug causing a kid to kill themselves is too much for society to accept. But if someone over 18 does it - they are an adult and in control of their own actions, so in some twisted sense it is more acceptable. The whole thing is absolutely ridiculous in my opinion. Definitely the brain is developing a lot more when you are young, but what is ironic about it is that I was taking the drug when I was under 18 and never had suicidal tendency's from it (and I withdrawled back then successfully). A few years later, My last withdrawl actually made me suicidal for the first time in my life (I was 23 then.)

Not at all. The "under 18"(and later to age 25) came after the clinical trials for that age group showed the suicidality in the trial. There were specific cases of increased suicidality that were initially hidden in the trial, but made public on further review of the data.

The other age groups didn't have the "signal" of suicidality in the specific group that participated in the clinical trial. Doesn't mean that it didn't effect the age group tested, it just didn't effect those specific participants...therefore they didn't "box" that age group.

Warnings are placed based on clinical trials....adverse reaction reports are considered "anecdotal" and not weighed as heavily as trial data.