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Natural Supplements For Brain Cells
Does anyone know what good quality and effective natural supplements, vitamins/minerals, are good to stop or decrease super excitable nerve cells in the brain which are the main cause for neurological probems/symptoms from SSRI antidepressant withdrawal.?. I noticed when i take 2mg's of Klonopin it stops some of the head pains and neurological sensations, neurological symptoms assocated with SSRI withdrawal syndrome.
What do you guys recommend that is good high quality supplements or vitamins and minerals to calm down agitated or super excitable nerve cells in the brain. Thanks. Benzodiazepines are minor tranquilizers which affect GABA cells that calm down excitable nerve cells, but i don't want to get hooked on these psychiatric toxins because of withdrawal and long term damage ramafications. I'm looking for natural supplement route. |
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Re: Natural Supplements For Brain Cells
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: New Zealand
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Re: Natural Supplements For Brain Cells
You could look for natural GABA agonists, e.g. magnesium, taurine, theanine, valerian, and try the GABA diet that was mentioned here recently, oats and stuff. You can also help to calm the nervous system by encouraging the relaxation response with relaxation exercises - gentle yoga stretches, progressive muscle relaxation, guided visualisations, meditation, etc.
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Join Date: May 2004
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Re: Natural Supplements For Brain Cells
I just don't know if these symptoms you are describing which sound like dysautonomia can be prevented. The nervous system and brain have to re-regulate and it takes time. It certainly doesn't hurt to practice healthy habits .... Work on your digestion. There is a connection to the neurotransmitters in your gut and in your brain. Some argue that serotonin in the gut doesn't cross the blood-brain barrier; but don't kid yourself. They work together. One thing that works for me when I have had a migraine for days is a Starbucks green tea latte. I can't figure it out, whether it's the natural antioxidants in the green tea or the fact that it's a warm beverage that gets everything moving in there. It may not work for everyone. You have to find that one thing that works for you. I only know of one herb I have heard of that works well for drug withdrawals - skullcap taken as a tincture several times a day. I have never tried it, but I didn't know about it until I was through the worst of my withdrawal.
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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Re: Natural Supplements For Brain Cells
Maybe try White Tea? I will
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Re: Natural Supplements For Brain Cells
Might be the natural theanine in the tea, Lisa.
But people still in w/d be warned that taking L-theanine in supplement form can make you feel better momentarily, but then backfire on you like most aminos. L-theanine didn't cause as much problems as even low doses of tryptophan, 5-HTP, etc. for me in acute w/d, but it still was more than I could handle. I couldn't even drink tea for some time (doing fine with it now, though mostly drinking kukicha or white tea, all organic), but a cup of tea might help you, and if you start having bad reactions it would be minor and leave your system pretty quickly with no harm done.
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Re: Natural Supplements For Brain Cells
That is interesting - how does it help?
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Re: Natural Supplements For Brain Cells
We posted at the same time!
I tried white tea earlier in w/d and had the same result as when I used other teas or even a tiny amount of L-theanine - felt better initially (first time or couple of times) then felt worse when taking it again. My nervous system must have been in total chaos at that time. But now I'm fine with it, and trying it earlier in w/d might cause some increase in symptoms as I had, but that would be very mild and brief, and totally reversible.
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Re: Natural Supplements For Brain Cells
I sometimes take taurine, in addition to a cal/mag supplement, fish oil, daily vitamin and probiotic. That's my routine. If I can't fall asleep I take .5 mg of melatonin, but I didn't start that up until about a year ago.
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Re: Natural Supplements For Brain Cells
Just wanted to mention that taurine can cause nightmares in some instances. That certainly seemed to happen to me when I took taurine (and tried magnesium taurinate at one point) not too long ago. I mentioned it to my doctor and he's familar with the fact that it can do that (not as a w/d problem specifically, just can do that in some cases).
Interestingly, I used to take taurine regularly before w/d and didn't have any problems with it, and think it benefitted me. I've been having a lot of bad dreams at this stage of recovery, but the nightmares were much worse when I was taking the taurine supplements, even in low doses, so had to stop. Taurine is a good supplement and may be very beneficial in many cases, but if you get unusually bad/vivid nightmares, it might be the cause. You'll know if the nightmares go away or decrease in severity if you stop taking the supplement (and worsen if you resume it).
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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Re: Natural Supplements For Brain Cells
Taurine worked really well for me and I was deficient in it on tests done during withdrawal. I just haven't bought any lately since I spend so much on supplements now. Taurine is also in Sobe's Life Waters you can find at the grocery store.
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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Re: Natural Supplements For Brain Cells
I had no side effects from it.
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Was on Effexor (150mg) @January? of 2006 until January 1, 2008. Weaned off over 3 month period with no instructions of weaning from doctor. 36 months off Effexor January 2011 Supplements: Tryptophan, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Calcium D, Stress B Complex, Ashwagandha, tapering .5 mg Xanax taken at bedtime for close to 4 years 2/15/10-.4375mg 3/12/10-.375 mg 4/5/10-.3125 mg 4/23/10-.25 mg 5/21/10-.1875 mg 6/17/10-.125 mg 7/13/10-.0625mg ![]() 8/29/10-0 |
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