Can someone explain "crash" and "poop out"?

CarlaD · 11-26-2009, 01:37 PM

Sorry I've seen those words alot here and not really sure the actual meaning.....thanks for being patient

I'm a newbie!

Carla

anjopom · 11-26-2009, 01:48 PM

Hi carla,

Welcome to paxil progress.

Poop out, or TOLERANCE, is when some can have symptoms of withdrawal on full therapeutic dose.
This means that your mind and body has become used to that dosage, and the drug is no longer working effectively.

Crash.
This happens as you taper, it means that some are doing well for some time , then symptoms show up out of the blue at an exaggerated force, which means the person then has to either 1) updose, or reduce, to get some relief.

Hope this helps, of course dont get thinking that because others have these problems, you will too, tapering doesnt work that way, for some it can cause few problems, for others it causes major symptoms.

If you taper very, very slowly, as the mods on this board suggest, then any symptoms that do show should be short lived and tolerable, making this whole exercise doable, it wont mean symptom free for most of us unfortunately.

mapleleafgirl25 · 11-26-2009, 03:37 PM

the slower you taper ..the better off you will be..take if from me..i tapered too fast..and had protracted withdrawal 8 months after my last dose..adn it was a nightmare..i am tapering again..but going VERY VERY SLOW!..and again..everyone is different..but it makes a huge difference if you taper really slow!..and stick to that!

Songbird · 11-29-2009, 05:50 PM

A crash is a sudden onset of severe w/d symptoms. It is usually caused by tapering too quickly.

Poop-out is tolerance withdrawal. The brain is no longer fooled by the drug and withdrawal symptoms appear while still on a normal dose. Increasing the dose can alleviate symptoms in the short-term, until tolerance is reached at the higher dose.

11-26-2009, 01:37 PM	#1
CarlaD Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 115	Can someone explain "crash" and "poop out"? Sorry I've seen those words alot here and not really sure the actual meaning.....thanks for being patient I'm a newbie! Carla __________________ over 10 years Paxil 30mg, Clonazepam/Klonapin 1mg, Wellbutrin 150mg Nov 9, 2009 25mg Paxil Dec 5, 2009 22.5mg Dec 23, 2009 20mg April 9, 2010 17.5mg

11-26-2009, 01:48 PM	#2
anjopom Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,889	Re: Can someone explain "crash" and "poop"? Hi carla, Welcome to paxil progress. Poop out, or TOLERANCE, is when some can have symptoms of withdrawal on full therapeutic dose. This means that your mind and body has become used to that dosage, and the drug is no longer working effectively. Crash. This happens as you taper, it means that some are doing well for some time , then symptoms show up out of the blue at an exaggerated force, which means the person then has to either 1) updose, or reduce, to get some relief. Hope this helps, of course dont get thinking that because others have these problems, you will too, tapering doesnt work that way, for some it can cause few problems, for others it causes major symptoms. If you taper very, very slowly, as the mods on this board suggest, then any symptoms that do show should be short lived and tolerable, making this whole exercise doable, it wont mean symptom free for most of us unfortunately. __________________ medicated by doctor for grief. 15th Jan 1997 -Nov 2005 30mg paxil, c/t off by doctor. Dec 05, prozac 20mg, propranelol and 10mg Diazepam. March o6 c/t - doctor. April 06 -Nov 07 20mg paxil, Nov 07 - 18mg, dec 07 -16mg, jan 08 - 14mg, feb -12mg, mar -10mg,jul -9mg,aug -8.5mg,oct -8mg,nov -7.5mg,dec 08-7mg, jan09-6.5mg,feb-6mg, 1st mar-5.5mg,end mar -5mg,apr-4.2mg,CRASHED, may-5mg, aug-4.5mg,sept3.8mg, oct-3.2mg, oct - 2.8mg, nov, 2.2mg.dec.1.8,dec1.5jAN 1,2MG,march 0.9mg, may 0.5mg

11-26-2009, 03:37 PM	#3
mapleleafgirl25 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 2,170	Re: Can someone explain "crash" and "poop out"? the slower you taper ..the better off you will be..take if from me..i tapered too fast..and had protracted withdrawal 8 months after my last dose..adn it was a nightmare..i am tapering again..but going VERY VERY SLOW!..and again..everyone is different..but it makes a huge difference if you taper really slow!..and stick to that! __________________ aka MICHELE 3rd attempt at withdrawal going slow..compounded pills My history with paxil is too long to write here..lol..but you can look at my old posts to see! 05/27/2010 - 19.5 08/25/2010 - 18.5

11-29-2009, 05:50 PM	#4
Songbird Queen of the appendage vocabulary Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 9,191	Re: Can someone explain "crash" and "poop out"? A crash is a sudden onset of severe w/d symptoms. It is usually caused by tapering too quickly. Poop-out is tolerance withdrawal. The brain is no longer fooled by the drug and withdrawal symptoms appear while still on a normal dose. Increasing the dose can alleviate symptoms in the short-term, until tolerance is reached at the higher dose. __________________ Jul 01-Feb 02 Aropax Feb - Dec 03 Citalopram Jul 04 Aropax ... several failed tapers ... Jan 07 - Feb 08 20mg - 5mg Apr 4.5mg 5mg Jun 10mg zopiclone > seroquel, Jul 20mg Oct aropax > loxamine, Dec off seroquel 7 Dec 17.5mg, 30 Dec 15mg 2009 24 Jan 12.5mg 16 Feb 10mg 10 May 9mg 30 May 8mg 5 July 7.5mg 2 Aug 7.25mg 1 Sep 7mg 9 Oct 6.75mg 8 Nov 6.5mg 18 Dec 6.3mg 2010 30 Aug 6.15mg Appreciation is the antidote to stress - Trust is the antidote to fear

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