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Old 12-05-2009, 11:02 AM   #1
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Craniosacral therapy

This is reported to help autonomic nervous system dysfunction.

Has anyone tried this and had any success from it??

What kind of doctor would do this?? An osteopath?? What kind of doctor is that?
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:30 AM   #2
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Re: Craniosacral therapy

I will jump in here..bc it is my domain. Craniosacral therapy is of no real therapeutic value...outside of placebo. Assuming you are an adult the skull bones have long since fused and there is no movement between the bones...which is what craniosacral therapy is supposed to work with. I am actually going to an osteopathic medical school. An osteopathic physician in this day is the same thing as an allopathic physician. osteopathic physicians get a DO after their name...and allopathic drs get an MD. The only difference in training is that DOs get additional training in osteopathic manipulation. Craniosacral therapy has more or less been dismissed by mainstream DOs...and only fringe practitioners do this kind of thing now. A chiropracter would be your best bet!
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:33 AM   #3
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Re: Craniosacral therapy

Thanks spikenala...very interesting. Looked hopeful but from what I've read it is not reliable or proven to work. Back to square one I guess. Would a chiro be able to help with autonomic nervous system disfunction??
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:33 AM   #4
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Thanks spikenala...very interesting. Looked hopeful but from what I've read it is not reliable or proven to work. Back to square one I guess. Would a chiro be able to help with autonomic nervous system disfunction??

What exactly does an osteopath do then??
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:37 AM   #5
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Re: Craniosacral therapy

an osteopath is just another name for an osteopathic physician...or DO. In this day in age DOs have the EXACT same training as MDs....do the exact same job...and are licensed by the same people. So a DO=MD. They just have additional training in OMM (osteopathic manipulative medicine)...which is sort of like glorified physical therapy. As for chiropracters dealing with autonomic issues...I am not sure. What sort of issues are you having if you dont mind me asking...
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:39 AM   #6
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Re: Craniosacral therapy

lower back pain and sciatic pain, nerves in neck are inflamed and itching/burning, nerves in head are tingling, itching also...lots of nerve related pain and discomfort...

Muscular and nerve related I guess...
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:41 AM   #7
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an osteopath is just another name for an osteopathic physician...or DO. In this day in age DOs have the EXACT same training as MDs....do the exact same job...and are licensed by the same people. So a DO=MD. They just have additional training in OMM (osteopathic manipulative medicine)...which is sort of like glorified physical therapy. As for chiropracters dealing with autonomic issues...I am not sure. What sort of issues are you having if you dont mind me asking...
I will add...DOs have 4 years of medical school and then X years of residency training in their specialty (surgery, internal medicine, etc). Its like how dentistry has DDS and DMD. Or how vets are VMD or DVM
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:44 AM   #8
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lower back pain and sciatic pain, nerves in neck are inflamed and itching/burning, nerves in head are tingling, itching also...lots of nerve related pain and discomfort...

Muscular and nerve related I guess...

I am not sure how much I believe in chriopractic...but I know plenty of people who speak volumes about benefits. So give it a shot! Maybe they could help you. Is all of this secondary to your SSRI use you think?
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:45 AM   #9
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Re: Craniosacral therapy

Oh yeah absolutely withdrawal related!

Thanks for the advice!
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:50 AM   #10
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Hey then! Well we dont really scientifically know whats going on in withdrawal...so who knows perhaps it will help. Def. worth a shot!!!
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Old 12-06-2009, 10:30 AM   #11
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Jule1, I am a practicing Osteopathic Physician for the past 28 years and the advice given to you by spikenala is very tainted with his lack of experience and very incorrect.From your brief description it would be unlikely that withdrawal symptoms could be prolonged for that length of time. It would appear that symptoms of low back pain, burning pain would be related to the musculoskeletal components of the back, neck, head regions. There are also elements which sound like neuropathic pain as well. DO training begins with the philosophy that the body has the ability to heal itself if given the right enviornment. The body has an intricate relationship betweeen its structure and its function. These basic tenets are the basis for the training that is given to all DOs. Treatment of the musculoskeletal system is training that all students must learn even if they do not become skilled enough to use it later in their practice. Spikenala appears to hove a prejudice towards this training. Chiropractic physicians have training in the musculoskeletal systems but do not have any training in the body as a whole being. DOs also have many different techniques learned in manipulation class, one of which is the treatment of the crainium. This is a very difficult skill to learn and takes much time to become proficient. My advice to you would be to find a DO who has an interest in manipulative medicine in your area. The websites of the American Osteopathic Assn. or the American Academy of Osteopathy (the manipulation group) would be your best bet. Also as a family practice physician I am prejudiced towards finding a compassionate family doctor- DO and sometimes this can take some time to find the right one. Ask friends, nurses, or others close to the medical profession for recommendations. God speed in your search for health. I will leave you with a quote from our founding physician Dr. Andrew Taylor Still, MD - It takes a good doctor to find health, anyone can find disease.
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Old 12-06-2009, 10:34 AM   #12
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Re: Craniosacral therapy

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From your brief description it would be unlikely that withdrawal symptoms could be prolonged for that length of time.
Actually it's very likely that withdrawal symptoms last this long...we see and hear about it every day.
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Old 12-06-2009, 10:44 AM   #13
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Jule1, I am a practicing Osteopathic Physician for the past 28 years and the advice given to you by spikenala is very tainted with his lack of experience and very incorrect.From your brief description it would be unlikely that withdrawal symptoms could be prolonged for that length of time. It would appear that symptoms of low back pain, burning pain would be related to the musculoskeletal components of the back, neck, head regions. There are also elements which sound like neuropathic pain as well. DO training begins with the philosophy that the body has the ability to heal itself if given the right enviornment. The body has an intricate relationship betweeen its structure and its function. These basic tenets are the basis for the training that is given to all DOs. Treatment of the musculoskeletal system is training that all students must learn even if they do not become skilled enough to use it later in their practice. Spikenala appears to hove a prejudice towards this training. Chiropractic physicians have training in the musculoskeletal systems but do not have any training in the body as a whole being. DOs also have many different techniques learned in manipulation class, one of which is the treatment of the crainium. This is a very difficult skill to learn and takes much time to become proficient. My advice to you would be to find a DO who has an interest in manipulative medicine in your area. The websites of the American Osteopathic Assn. or the American Academy of Osteopathy (the manipulation group) would be your best bet. Also as a family practice physician I am prejudiced towards finding a compassionate family doctor- DO and sometimes this can take some time to find the right one. Ask friends, nurses, or others close to the medical profession for recommendations. God speed in your search for health. I will leave you with a quote from our founding physician Dr. Andrew Taylor Still, MD - It takes a good doctor to find health, anyone can find disease.


Hey Doc....if you have good clinical outcomes with CST than by all means good for you! However I wouldnt say I am prejudiced toward osteopathic medicine. I am an MS2 at an osteopathic medical school Not saying I am the most experienced in OMM, but please dont claim I have no idea what I am talking about
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Re: Craniosacral therapy

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Actually it's very likely that withdrawal symptoms last this long...we see and hear about it every day.
So true, there are thousands on this site who are experiencing this first-hand, including me.
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Old 12-06-2009, 01:26 PM   #15
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Re: Craniosacral therapy

Oh I KNOW it's withdrawal related! Things seem to be calming down some today. Lower back pain is not there for once! Still have the burning and inflammation in neck though. We'll see....
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