Why don't I listen to you guys??

CarlaD · 02-08-2010, 12:08 PM

Not once, but TWICE since I've started my paxil taper, did I try to lower my clonazepam a bit too, ....both at the same time! The first time was aweful as I almost c/t the clonzepam and was told by you nice people to wean ONE PILL AT A TIME. Ok fine. So I resumed my normal Clonazepam and focused on the Paxil. So I am doing well on my 20mg Paxil and don't want to lower it anymore until after my holidays (mid April) . SO....WHAT DO I DO INSTEAD.......I cut back my clonazepam from 1mg to .75mg. After all, I can do it right? It's such a small amount....AS IF I will feel that tiny crumb of pill. April is so far away, I have to keep weaning SOMETHING......

Well, after about a week of this, last night I almost had a panic attack! I managed to control it and stop it but it was there, plain as day. Tingling arms and legs, very hot, feeling "not here",......

So what do I do....I go take a dose of Passion Flower. Don't go take your Clonazepam you idiot. Try something ELSE new.

I was warned by so many of you.....

So, as of today, I will NOT try to cut back or change ANYTHING until my Paxil is down to zero, even if that takes years.

I PROMISE......and if you see me doing something silly again, you can whip me with a wet noodle.

imokay · 02-08-2010, 12:35 PM

crap I am all out of wet noodles!! I do have a candy wrapper around here somewhere though do you just want me to throw that at you instead?

jule1 · 02-08-2010, 12:36 PM

I've got some dry noodles in my cupboard!

imokay · 02-08-2010, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jule1

I've got some dry noodles in my cupboard!

those might take out an eye

NoRx4me · 02-08-2010, 12:37 PM

Hi Carla,

Please don't be so hard on yourself. If you're like myself and many others on here; you've been told for years (or it's been implied) by a DOCTOR that these meds are harmless and can only help you. Any negative side effects or withdrawal experiences can't be caused by the drug. Meaning; it must be in your head, it can't be all that bad and you can overcome it with will power.

Unfortunately, that's like saying you can drink as much Tequila as you want and will yourself sober before driving. But doctor's wouldn't tell us that would they. That's what makes it so much harder to comprehend; the experts tell us we are wrong...ignorant...crazy. and we've been conditioned (and our brains compromised with drugs) to believe them.

Plus, now that you know the truth...that these drugs are harmful, It's only natural to want to stop ingesting them ASAP.

You've learned your lesson. And really, trial and error is what you have to do sometimes. Now you can tell the next person trying to get off two meds what you went through.

jule1 · 02-08-2010, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by imokay

those might take out an eye

Yeah especially when they're lasagna noodles.

texgirl · 02-08-2010, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlaD

I cut back my clonazepam from 1mg to .75mg. After all, I can do it right? It's such a small amount....AS IF I will feel that tiny crumb of pill.

That's a 25% drop! No wonder you felt terrible.

No need to beat yourself up. Just get back on the program. You know what to do!

CarlaD · 02-08-2010, 01:19 PM

Looks like I'm going to be hanging out with you guys for a very LONG time

Thanks for the support!

luc · 02-08-2010, 01:19 PM

Take it easy, Carla.

Now you know that the slower the better. Stop flogging yourself. You're going to be fine, if you follow the schedule. Take care and keep us updated!

Jynee · 02-08-2010, 02:11 PM

Carla,

You WILL be ok...its gonna take time(dont I know it!), but you can get through it, and please dont beat yourself up over it...I do the same thing, I know its rough, but you have to remember that you have been on it for a long time, and it will take a while to get off. *hugs*

pokie · 02-09-2010, 01:16 AM

I told u girlie

eileen · 02-09-2010, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlaD

Looks like I'm going to be hanging out with you guys for a very LONG time

Thanks for the support!

Carla, I'm here since 2005 but making progress. Slow is the way to get there. I too, thought that I could do it and my first cut of Paxil was 7.5mg, big mistake but I got through it and went slower from then on. Take all the time you need and you will get there. Slow and steady wins the race.
Eileen

CarlaD · 02-09-2010, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokie

I told u girlie

lol...I know I know!

imokay · 02-09-2010, 07:32 AM

How are you feeling today Carla?

CarlaD · 02-09-2010, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imokay

How are you feeling today Carla?

I am feeling great! That reminds me, I haven't taken my pills yet this morning! And it WILL included my full dose of clonazepam

Thanks for asking!!

scotslass · 02-09-2010, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlaD

Looks like I'm going to be hanging out with you guys for a very LONG time

Thanks for the support!

We're happy to have you Carla,and hey last October I 'added' wellbutrin thinking I could speed the process up of coming off the paxil.......uh,nope what I got was a boatload of other crap and only added to my misery,so you are in good company darlin' at some time or another we all screw up but that is what PP is for,to help get us back on track.Hope you are feeling better today

pokie · 02-09-2010, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlaD

I am feeling great! That reminds me, I haven't taken my pills yet this morning! And it WILL included my full dose of clonazepam

Thanks for asking!!

Carla,
You may benefit by taking the Klono. at night if you have any sleep problems. Now or in the future. It does not work for me though I know others who is has

Jynee · 02-09-2010, 11:36 AM

Im glad your feeling better!

02-08-2010, 12:08 PM	#1
CarlaD Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 115	Why don't I listen to you guys?? Not once, but TWICE since I've started my paxil taper, did I try to lower my clonazepam a bit too, ....both at the same time! The first time was aweful as I almost c/t the clonzepam and was told by you nice people to wean ONE PILL AT A TIME. Ok fine. So I resumed my normal Clonazepam and focused on the Paxil. So I am doing well on my 20mg Paxil and don't want to lower it anymore until after my holidays (mid April) . SO....WHAT DO I DO INSTEAD.......I cut back my clonazepam from 1mg to .75mg. After all, I can do it right? It's such a small amount....AS IF I will feel that tiny crumb of pill. April is so far away, I have to keep weaning SOMETHING...... Well, after about a week of this, last night I almost had a panic attack! I managed to control it and stop it but it was there, plain as day. Tingling arms and legs, very hot, feeling "not here",...... So what do I do....I go take a dose of Passion Flower. Don't go take your Clonazepam you idiot. Try something ELSE new. I was warned by so many of you..... So, as of today, I will NOT try to cut back or change ANYTHING until my Paxil is down to zero, even if that takes years. I PROMISE......and if you see me doing something silly again, you can whip me with a wet noodle. __________________ over 10 years Paxil 30mg, Clonazepam/Klonapin 1mg, Wellbutrin 150mg Nov 9, 2009 25mg Paxil Dec 5, 2009 22.5mg Dec 23, 2009 20mg April 9, 2010 17.5mg

02-08-2010, 12:35 PM	#2
imokay Sometimes ya just gotta say F$%^ YOU! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 8,346	Re: Why don't I listen to you guys?? crap I am all out of wet noodles!! I do have a candy wrapper around here somewhere though do you just want me to throw that at you instead? __________________ CALLY PAXIL FREE October 7, 2009 When the world says, "Give up," Hope whispers, "Try it one more time." “Do not let your struggles defeat you. Let your victories over them strengthen you. Together with God, there is no challenge that you cannot overcome

02-08-2010, 12:36 PM	#3
jule1 Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,914	Re: Why don't I listen to you guys?? I've got some dry noodles in my cupboard! __________________ Was on Effexor (150mg) @January? of 2006 until January 1, 2008. Weaned off over 3 month period with no instructions of weaning from doctor. 24 months off Effexor January 2010 and still protracted withdrawal Supplements: Tryptophan, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Calcium D, Stress B Complex, Ashwagandha, tapering .5 mg Xanax at bedtime 2/15-.4375mg 3/12-.375 mg 4/5-.3125 mg 4/23-.25 mg 5/21-.1875 mg 6/17-.125 mg 7/13-.0625mg 8/29-0

02-08-2010, 12:37 PM	#5
NoRx4me Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NoVA Posts: 1,049	Re: Why don't I listen to you guys?? Hi Carla, Please don't be so hard on yourself. If you're like myself and many others on here; you've been told for years (or it's been implied) by a DOCTOR that these meds are harmless and can only help you. Any negative side effects or withdrawal experiences can't be caused by the drug. Meaning; it must be in your head, it can't be all that bad and you can overcome it with will power. Unfortunately, that's like saying you can drink as much Tequila as you want and will yourself sober before driving. But doctor's wouldn't tell us that would they. That's what makes it so much harder to comprehend; the experts tell us we are wrong...ignorant...crazy. and we've been conditioned (and our brains compromised with drugs) to believe them. Plus, now that you know the truth...that these drugs are harmful, It's only natural to want to stop ingesting them ASAP. You've learned your lesson. And really, trial and error is what you have to do sometimes. Now you can tell the next person trying to get off two meds what you went through. __________________ '95 Zoloft '98-'01 added Ritalin/Dexedrine '01 added Lamictal 200mg, quit Dexedrine '03-'04 added Trileptal, switched to Celexa '05-'06 Lexapro, Wellbutrin, Effexor, Topamax… 1/07 Cymbalta 20mg & Lamictal decreased to 100mg 9/07 Doubled both dosages 10/07 (two weeks later) added Lithium & Vyvanse 2/08 CT Cymbalta 40mg/Zoloft 50mg for 3 weeks 3/08 CT Lithium & Zoloft 4/08 CT Vyvanse, Reduced Lamictal 9/26/08 Last Lamictal

02-08-2010, 01:19 PM	#8
CarlaD Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 115	Re: Why don't I listen to you guys?? Looks like I'm going to be hanging out with you guys for a very LONG time Thanks for the support! __________________ over 10 years Paxil 30mg, Clonazepam/Klonapin 1mg, Wellbutrin 150mg Nov 9, 2009 25mg Paxil Dec 5, 2009 22.5mg Dec 23, 2009 20mg April 9, 2010 17.5mg

02-08-2010, 01:19 PM	#9
luc Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Europe Posts: 3,793	Re: Why don't I listen to you guys?? Take it easy, Carla. Now you know that the slower the better. Stop flogging yourself. You're going to be fine, if you follow the schedule. Take care and keep us updated! __________________ Xanax c/t July 2008 Paxil c/t December 2008 ...ended with a double ticket to Hell of a double c/t...to not lose my job, I worked all that time. I have no idea how I've made it... But due to WD I lost someone I loved so much... Keep walking. Just keep walking...

02-08-2010, 02:11 PM	#10
Jynee Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 315	Re: Why don't I listen to you guys?? Carla, You WILL be ok...its gonna take time(dont I know it!), but you can get through it, and please dont beat yourself up over it...I do the same thing, I know its rough, but you have to remember that you have been on it for a long time, and it will take a while to get off. hugs __________________ Anxiety, depression and OCD On Paxil for 6 years.. Tried unsuccessfully 2x's to reduce and get off within the last 2 years...(dr's messed me up) Was forced to go almost "cold turkey" and was Paxil free for 5 weeks. (Mid-Dec 09 thru mid-Jan.) Had horrid w/d. 1/19/10 - back on at 15mg. 1/29/10 - back to 30mg. 2/2/10 - .5 mg Clonopin 2x a day 2/2/10 - 25 mg. Atenolol 2/22/10 - 40mg. Paxil 2/22/10 - 50mg. Atenolol 2/22/10 - .5mg Clonopin 1x a day

02-09-2010, 01:16 AM	#11
pokie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 5,683	Re: Why don't I listen to you guys?? I told u girlie __________________ On since 1995 First taper official10% 2006 20mg to 8mgs crashed My 2nd Taper attempt: 10/01/08 40 12/9/08 36 1/9/09 33 2/9/09 30 3/12/09 27 4/28/09 24 5/24/09 23 7/21/09 22.5 8/12/09 22 9/3/09 21.5 taper .5 every two weeks 4/24/10 16 5/15/10 15.5 6/5/10 15 6/26/10 14.5 7/17/10 14 8/6/10 13.5 8/27/10 13 " I am not the monster I am just one of it's victims". NIP/TUC

02-09-2010, 07:32 AM	#14
imokay Sometimes ya just gotta say F$%^ YOU! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 8,346	Re: Why don't I listen to you guys?? How are you feeling today Carla? __________________ CALLY PAXIL FREE October 7, 2009 When the world says, "Give up," Hope whispers, "Try it one more time." “Do not let your struggles defeat you. Let your victories over them strengthen you. Together with God, there is no challenge that you cannot overcome

02-09-2010, 11:36 AM	#18
Jynee Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 315	Re: Why don't I listen to you guys?? Im glad your feeling better! __________________ Anxiety, depression and OCD On Paxil for 6 years.. Tried unsuccessfully 2x's to reduce and get off within the last 2 years...(dr's messed me up) Was forced to go almost "cold turkey" and was Paxil free for 5 weeks. (Mid-Dec 09 thru mid-Jan.) Had horrid w/d. 1/19/10 - back on at 15mg. 1/29/10 - back to 30mg. 2/2/10 - .5 mg Clonopin 2x a day 2/2/10 - 25 mg. Atenolol 2/22/10 - 40mg. Paxil 2/22/10 - 50mg. Atenolol 2/22/10 - .5mg Clonopin 1x a day

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