Are Doctors aliens ?

[Hank Jr.]

Talked to my doctor today. She don't believe that I'm still in withdrawal from lexapro after now 6 month off. No way that could be the fact. My blurred vision, spasm in legs, heart palps, depression, dr/dp, anxiety attack, headache, not able to exercise without symptoms flares up, bad sleep, chest pain, stomach/liver/kidney pain, electrical dumps/shocks and many other things....

I'll says doctors are stupid small people, with small insight and without any need or lust to help their patients.....sorry but they are :-D

Btw she thinks all people on paxilprogress are faking it and it's not withdrawal ...and being here reading and getting support don't help me !!

It's scary that doctors who are supposed to help people, don't have a clue and worst of all, don't have in interest in learning new stuff and helping their patients.

[Junior]

I'm an Aussie and I'm thinking election here .. so pardon the phrasing... but...

Sounds like your doctor is toeing the party line. That is, if it's not in the literature, it can't posssibly be true. Besides, I am the doctor and I know more than you and all those silly people in the internet.

*rolls eyes*

[Hank Jr.]

Hope the best women or man will win ...

I'm an engineer and the most important thing I have learned is to be open for new solutions and knowledge...and never reject a suggestion, without thinking or investing it.

I'll be back one day and kick her *** *lol*

[catlove]

tell her to take the pills if she thinks she knows something

[Hank Jr.]

Originally Posted by catlove

tell her to take the pills if she thinks she knows something

It will close her mind even more

[Zoloft25]

I went to my psychiatrist, 2 diffrent ones, because I was terrified and having paranoid thoughts!! a nurse practictioner, an eye doctor when my vision was blurred and so sensative I had to turn down my brightness on my computer, and have huge print on my computer because my eyes strained so bad i couldnt read anything but giant print!! A Neurologist when my restless leg and feet pains were so bad I thought I had a neurological disorder for crying out loud!! An emergency room doctor cause my foot was zapping electrically! A Urrologist cause my kidney and penis area was burning and stinging!! One common question I asked all of them, does ssri withdrawal last this long ( 2 years!!) and can SSRI withdrawal cause this or that symptom, there answer was very similar, my psychiatrist said I might be bipolar! My Nurse Practioner said i was having chest pains cause i was eating before I walked!! My Uriologist said I was drinking to much caffeine maybe, ( even though i had not drank caffeine in a week when this started! My eye doctor said he didnt know anything! (least he was honest!lol
) My they all said NO!!! it is ridiculous what we have all gone through because of this moronic medical profession, I'm not buying for a minute none of them knew of protracted ssri or benzo withdrawal, its ridiculous, we cters, I was one as well are real heroes, how many could live through what we did and not kill ourselves!! NOT MANY!!! All can say is..... GOD BLESS THE INTERNET, thank you Peter Breggin, David Healy, Ann Tracy, Joseph Glenmullen, Grace Jackson, Robert Whitaker, and thank you PAXILPROGRESS!!

[vestabula]

Most doctors don't believe it because the majoity of people get their first 'brain zap' and go back on the drug, up the dosage or go on another SSRI. Gee...no w/d statistics when that happens. Mine doesn't believe it either. Well, he believes in w/d but not Protracted Withdrawal...said it all should pass in two weeks.

[Zoloft25]

Hey Guys, Read this from David Healy's Book Let Them Eat Prozac, talking about SSRI Withdrawal, 'The most common symptoms of withdrawal are depression and anxiety. A host of other bizarre symptoms appear to map better onto conditions such as tardive dyskinesia , a feature of antipsychotic withdrawal, than onto the withdrawal from opiates or alcohol withdrawal, which is usually over within two or three weeks, tardive dyskinesia can last for months or years, as can SSRI withdrawal'. Where are more good doctors like this man!

[Hank Jr.]

Forgot to tell I was to a heart specialist 14 days ago, regarding my never-ending palps. Did ask him if wd from a ssri could cause this. He said no - I had to tell him on the info note that comes with lexapro, it says it can. He didn't know.

Doctors should use 80% of their time on patients and 20% on seeking new information and being up to date ....

*** Zoloft25 says : God Bless the Internet

[stan]

The doctors are a profession where, if they agravent a psychological disease existente (little depression or situational fear), they are never prosecuted, nobody gives them a blow in the face even if they destroyed lives
They are untouchable in mental illness,
they do what they want, They have account to nobody,
no chief above, they are always right all over the world, they never do mistake in mental meds
it's the same in hospital mental

[Pat Shields]

Originally Posted by Hank Jr.

small insight and without any need or lust to help their patients.....sorry but they are

Here the word should be "desire." The words "lust" and "desire" mean the same and are interchangeable, but you should know that "lust" between people has a sexual connotation. "Desire" does also, but when one person wants to help another, the word "desire" is appropriate, not "lust" as it is the ability to help that is desired, not the person. FYI.

Originally Posted by stan

The doctors are a profession where, if they agravent a psychological disease existente (little depression or situational fear), they are never prosecuted, nobody gives them a blow in the face even if they destroyed lives
They are untouchable in mental illness,
they do what they want, They have account to nobody,
no chief above, they are always right all over the world, they never do mistake in mental meds
it's the same in hospital mental

Wow, Monsieur Stan, wonderful use of English, very powerful, very understandable.

[Hank Jr.]

Originally Posted by Pat Shields

Here the word should be "desire." The words "lust" and "desire" mean the same and are interchangeable, but you should know that "lust" between people has a sexual connotation. "Desire" does also, but when one person wants to help another, the word "desire" is appropriate, not "lust" as it is the ability to help that is desired, not the person. FYI.

I'm danish - So really don't care much about choosing the right English words. Sorry but I don't. Most important is people understand the right meaning despite the words.

[Pat Shields]

Originally Posted by Hank Jr.

I'm danish - So really don't care much about choosing the right English words. Sorry but I don't.

Wow, I was just trying to be friendly, didn't mean to be offensive. I guess all my English words I chose were the wrong ones. Won't happen again.

I'm American - when using someone else's language I have respect about choosing their correct words. Not sorry that I do. Jeg vil ikke lyst til dig eller har ønske til dig. Jeg er ked af. Mig dansk sprog er ikke ren. Mit tysk sprog er bedre.

[catlove]

Today I went to a new doctor and she told me that the taper of the 5 mg from 20 does nothing to the body and that is not why I'm depressed. She said Paxil does not treat depression almost only anixety. she said i should switch to Remeron...yeah right

[Junior]

Originally Posted by catlove

Today I went to a new doctor and she told me that the taper of the 5 mg from 20 does nothing to the body and that is not why I'm depressed. She said Paxil does not treat depression almost only anixety. she said i should switch to Remeron...yeah right

Paxil does not treat depression? It's an ANTI-DEPRESSANT!!!! Idiot.

[Norma]

Originally Posted by Junior

Paxil does not treat depression? It's an ANTI-DEPRESSANT!!!! Idiot.

The reason I was prescribed paxil was depression. Are doctors really this stupid???

[Lucy]

Originally Posted by catlove

She said Paxil does not treat depression almost only anixety.

I have read that SSRI drugs are more effective in treating anxiety than they are in treating depression. SSRIs have not been shown to be much more effective than placebo in treating depression.
so, your doctor may have a point.

[catlove]

Originally Posted by Lucy

I have read that SSRI drugs are more effective in treating anxiety than they are in treating depression. SSRIs have not been shown to be much more effective than placebo in treating depression.
so, your doctor may have a point.

i didnt know that. can you find where you read that? the doc also told me that ssri triggers panic attacks when they are stopped or when you increase the dose because then serotunin goes out from the brain very fast in large amount.

[MDW]

Never had anxiety issues/panic attacks before paxil..now feel like Im in one 24/7 of varying degrees..

[daisyydaisy]

Ok..so they say..once you start ssri it can take up to 3 months for you to even start feeling somewhat normal again...and most likely up to 6 months .Well it can take that long to experience w/d.....they don't have long term stats out yet so how can they even judge?? They can't!

[demotivated]

Originally Posted by Hank Jr.

I'll says doctors are stupid small people, with small insight and without any need or lust to help their patients.....sorry but they are :-D

Btw she thinks all people on paxilprogress are faking it and it's not withdrawal ...and being here reading and getting support don't help me !!

It's scary that doctors who are supposed to help people, don't have a clue and worst of all, don't have in interest in learning new stuff and helping their patients.

They probably do have a clue yet it's the culture to feign ignorance in order to protect their jobs and reputation, not to mention the legal risks of disclosing how dangerous these drugs are. Are they really as dumb as they seem?

I believe most doctors are well-intentioned but develop a sense of complacency and over time it is just easier to play the game. They probably know more than they want to admit, yet push it to the back burner. Maybe they say to themselves "well, Paxil really does help some people" - and all the rest that is troubling (such as adverse reactions) is merely annoying to them (like a difficult patient), so they push it aside.

i just can't believe that they are actually as stupid as they seem.

[Hank Jr.]

Originally Posted by demotivated

They probably do have a clue yet it's the culture to feign ignorance in order to protect their jobs and reputation, not to mention the legal risks of disclosing how dangerous these drugs are. Are they really as dumb as they seem?

I believe most doctors are well-intentioned but develop a sense of complacency and over time it is just easier to play the game. They probably know more than they want to admit, yet push it to the back burner. Maybe they say to themselves "well, Paxil really does help some people" - and all the rest that is troubling (such as adverse reactions) is merely annoying to them (like a difficult patient), so they push it aside.

i just can't believe that they are actually as stupid as they seem.

I like the last sentence - They are not stupid at all. They just don't know anything about the other side of medicine, cause it's not there schedule in the medicine school and in real life, they have no time to follow up on new information.

How may many side effect from how many meds can they know ? ?

There biggest problem is although, they are NOT open for new info - not at all

The yellow sticker note paper my doctors use says Cipralex and Lundbeck ....That's the danish name for Lexapro ....Scary