Couldnt make it - Page 10

LCrawford67 · 10-19-2010, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by vetteman

At least when I go to the Dr now I am somewhat informed

And that's all we try to do here

It's so important to never again take ANY drug on blind faith. It's a lesson everyone has to learn and again, it doesn't matter the drug these days.

vetteman · 10-19-2010, 09:02 AM

Well whether Paxil or the CR it is still paxil and I am still hoping to stabilize. Although somewhat functional at work have some huge projects coming up and cannot be "out of the game". Need to get through the next few months without major problems.

vetteman · 10-20-2010, 07:55 AM

Well another day gone and work was ok. In retrospect considering what I was a few weeks ago, I will say there is definite improvment, just not as quick or dramatic as anticipated. Mornings are still very tough, but once I am at work I am starting to see bits and pieces of my old self, even with some occassional humor. I still dont know if the reinstatement will work or not, but I am still better than I was. Mornings as expected are still very tough but I am getting used to them. Sleep is nearly impossible though. I do get very tired then simply cannot fall asleep. I read that trypotphan and paxil dont go well together so I have been taking some melatonin which isnt really doing anything. Sleep a few hours at a time. Friday it will be six weeks back on, I guess the next few weeks will tell the tale.

LCrawford67 · 10-20-2010, 08:56 AM

How many mgs of melatonin are you taking? I have to take 5 mgs to get ANY effect at all.

vetteman · 10-20-2010, 09:01 AM

Hi Laurie my guardian angel-lol. I am taking 5 mg. I am kind of a big guy, do you think it is safe to take more? When this is all over I am sending you the biggest bouquet of flowers that I can find.

long_way_home · 10-20-2010, 09:18 AM

Hi Vetteman, you've probably mentioned this before, but the thread is pretty long- why did you decide to go off of Paxil in the first place?

vetteman · 10-20-2010, 09:40 AM

I decided to get off paxil when my grandson was born. It was then that I noticed that my joy at that event was not as "moving" as it should have been even after the baby was named after me. I looked back at some of the good things and bad things that happened over the last five years and realized that I was on "too even of a keel" which is not what the way the real world is. I used to cry at "chick flicks" and used to laugh at good comedies and all of that was gone. I definitely feel that I needed the drug when I first started taking it due to divorce, job problems, etc. Was in a very bad depression, but as time went on and those things straightened out I should have backed off then. I will state I really didnt experience the weight gain or sexual dysfunction that are usual side effects but I think that was due to a very rigourous workout schedule. I guess I was lucky in that respect. I was also drining too much alcohol while on paxil. I finally decided to enjoy whatever time I have left on this earth with my grandchild and kids without being in suspended animation. I truly wish that I had found this site before taking matters into my own hands. I have now created this mess I am in and hoping that my reinstatement works. At that point I am determined to get "my life" back and try to get through the peaks and valleys. I think that is what life is and we as a culture are used to taking a pill that cures all. When things go bad it is okay to be down and when things are good I want to enjoy them. Hope that explains it.

rangerNY · 10-20-2010, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by vetteman

I decided to get off paxil when my grandson was born. It was then that I noticed that my joy at that event was not as "moving" as it should have been even after the baby was named after me.

They named the baby "vetteman"? How unusual!

Glad to hear you're starting to see more improvement!

scotty · 10-20-2010, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by rangerNY

They named the baby "vetteman"? How unusual!

roflmao!

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suspended animation

Good explanation

LCrawford67 · 10-20-2010, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by vetteman

Hi Laurie my guardian angel-lol. I am taking 5 mg. I am kind of a big guy, do you think it is safe to take more? When this is all over I am sending you the biggest bouquet of flowers that I can find.

Five mgs. is the most *I'd* take. It's the only amount that works for me. That being said, I still wake up during the night (sometimes several times) but I'm able to fall asleep, which was the bigger issue.

My insomnia isn't due to w/d....just middle age

paxilgirl · 10-20-2010, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LCrawford67

Five mgs. is the most *I'd* take. It's the only amount that works for me. That being said, I still wake up during the night (sometimes several times) but I'm able to fall asleep, which was the bigger issue.

My insomnia isn't due to w/d....just middle age

Middle age???? Good Lord, woman...we are not middle aged!!!

(Sorry Vettement for budding in like this....Laurie is FAR from being middle aged!!!)

paxilgirl · 10-20-2010, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by vetteman

Well another day gone and work was ok. In retrospect considering what I was a few weeks ago, I will say there is definite improvment, just not as quick or dramatic as anticipated. Mornings are still very tough, but once I am at work I am starting to see bits and pieces of my old self, even with some occassional humor. I still dont know if the reinstatement will work or not, but I am still better than I was. Mornings as expected are still very tough but I am getting used to them. Sleep is nearly impossible though. I do get very tired then simply cannot fall asleep. I read that trypotphan and paxil dont go well together so I have been taking some melatonin which isnt really doing anything. Sleep a few hours at a time. Friday it will be six weeks back on, I guess the next few weeks will tell the tale.

That's a big improvement over your first posts, Vetteman!

You are doing fine. The sleep issues SUCKED for me big time...it was one of the things I really had a hard time dealing with...that and wanting to go into a complete rage in the mornings!

LCrawford67 · 10-21-2010, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by paxilgirl

Middle age???? Good Lord, woman...we are not middle aged!!!

(Sorry Vettement for budding in like this....Laurie is FAR from being middle aged!!!)

Sorry, PG....43 is middle aged. Doubling it gives you 86 and if that ain't middle aged, I don't know what is.

I don't say it like it's a bad thing, it's just a number.

Junior · 10-21-2010, 05:09 AM

Wait until you get to 48

vetteman · 10-21-2010, 08:23 AM

You guys are supposed to cheer me up and I just turned 55. Now I am REALLY DEPRESSED. Does that mean I am beyond middle aged?
Todays update: A few good days in a row at work. Had real glimpses of my old self. Last night actually watched my beloved Yankees finally win a game. First time I watched TV for more than ten minutes in a long time. Tinnitus is still very annoying and pressure at work is enormous but seem to be handling it ok for a change. Morning anxiety not too bad except I am not a morning person and hate getting out of bed (especially this time of year). A little anxiety about tomorrow, my day off in which I tend to hang around and do nothing except think about how crappy I feel. Interested to see if I am somewhat ok tomorrow. This is the first time I am somewhat convinced that I have had improvments and even my family tells me I sound different on the phone-must be a good sign.

LCrawford67 · 10-21-2010, 08:32 AM

Woo hoo! Kickass, Vetteman!

Instead of hanging around tomorrow, make yourself go out for a while. Go shopping (I can happily give you my shoe size and type of shoes I like) get some lunch, stuff like that

Oh, and 55 isn't old either. I'm telling ya...they're just numbers

vetteman · 10-21-2010, 08:47 AM

Laurie-going to do my best to spend some money tomorrow. What size shoes do you wear-lol. Going to try to meet some friends for lunch and force myself to get out of the house. Not going to think about it and psyche myself out. Just sleep in for awhile and carry on.

LCrawford67 · 10-21-2010, 08:49 AM

Good for you! Spending money always cheers me up...so does lunch (food!) You'll get to the point, hopefully starting tomorrow, when you'll look forward to your days off again.

vetteman · 10-22-2010, 02:14 PM

Todays post. Is stability finally around the corner. Nice night out with friends last night. Off today and although still a lack of motivation got out of the house to get some stuff done. Getting out today has been easier than the last few weeks

ray34iyf · 10-22-2010, 02:21 PM

The fact that you're feeling this right now leads me to believe that even if you hit more bumps in the road, it's going to eventually even out for you.

scotty · 10-22-2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by vetteman

Todays post. Is stability finally around the corner. Nice night out with friends last night. Off today and although still a lack of motivation got out of the house to get some stuff done. Getting out today has been easier than the last few weeks

This is great to hear.

Criticalthinker · 10-22-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by vetteman

Todays post. Is stability finally around the corner. Nice night out with friends last night. Off today and although still a lack of motivation got out of the house to get some stuff done. Getting out today has been easier than the last few weeks

Thanks for the good news Vette. Encouraging. All the best.
CT

LCrawford67 · 10-22-2010, 03:08 PM

Yeah!!!

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warbird · 10-22-2010, 05:30 PM

Good news Vette! I'm glad to hear you're feeling better.

vetteman · 10-23-2010, 08:53 AM

Todays post. Well yesterday I did feel better and got my errands done. Ended up with a work problem (even though I was off) that gave me some anxiety, but then got a call late in the day with a dinner invite that I accepted without hesitation. Small changes but they are becoming noticeable to me which I accept as a real good sign. Up to now, the changes were being seen by others but not by me. I am not anticipating too much as this week coming up is going to be a nightmare. So slow and steady I hope.

10-19-2010, 09:02 AM	#227
vetteman Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 201	Re: Couldnt make it Well whether Paxil or the CR it is still paxil and I am still hoping to stabilize. Although somewhat functional at work have some huge projects coming up and cannot be "out of the game". Need to get through the next few months without major problems. __________________ 2003-2010 20 mg paxil for depression and stress 6/10 cut to 10 mg 8/10 cut to 5mg 9/10 cut to 0 9/10 resintated to 20 mg waiting to get stable to begin slow slow wean 10/18 Dr switched to Paxil CR 25 as a last effort to get stabillized. 2/11 back to 20 mg regular paxil 3/11-7/11- down to 15 mg paxil very depressed 10/11 added 25mg zoloft 12/11 down to 10 mg paxil-couldnt take it. 12/11 back to 15 mg. 2/12-10/12 weaned off

10-20-2010, 07:55 AM	#228
vetteman Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 201	Re: Couldnt make it Well another day gone and work was ok. In retrospect considering what I was a few weeks ago, I will say there is definite improvment, just not as quick or dramatic as anticipated. Mornings are still very tough, but once I am at work I am starting to see bits and pieces of my old self, even with some occassional humor. I still dont know if the reinstatement will work or not, but I am still better than I was. Mornings as expected are still very tough but I am getting used to them. Sleep is nearly impossible though. I do get very tired then simply cannot fall asleep. I read that trypotphan and paxil dont go well together so I have been taking some melatonin which isnt really doing anything. Sleep a few hours at a time. Friday it will be six weeks back on, I guess the next few weeks will tell the tale. __________________ 2003-2010 20 mg paxil for depression and stress 6/10 cut to 10 mg 8/10 cut to 5mg 9/10 cut to 0 9/10 resintated to 20 mg waiting to get stable to begin slow slow wean 10/18 Dr switched to Paxil CR 25 as a last effort to get stabillized. 2/11 back to 20 mg regular paxil 3/11-7/11- down to 15 mg paxil very depressed 10/11 added 25mg zoloft 12/11 down to 10 mg paxil-couldnt take it. 12/11 back to 15 mg. 2/12-10/12 weaned off

10-20-2010, 08:56 AM	#229
LCrawford67 Moderator "Everybody poops" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 34,484	Re: Couldnt make it How many mgs of melatonin are you taking? I have to take 5 mgs to get ANY effect at all. __________________ aka LC aka Laurie C. Paxil, 20 mg since 1997, for IBS Two unsuccessful attempts to quit. Started tapering 11/27/06 PAXIL FREE 12/29/07 Today is the best day, EVER!

10-20-2010, 09:01 AM	#230
vetteman Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 201	Re: Couldnt make it Hi Laurie my guardian angel-lol. I am taking 5 mg. I am kind of a big guy, do you think it is safe to take more? When this is all over I am sending you the biggest bouquet of flowers that I can find. __________________ 2003-2010 20 mg paxil for depression and stress 6/10 cut to 10 mg 8/10 cut to 5mg 9/10 cut to 0 9/10 resintated to 20 mg waiting to get stable to begin slow slow wean 10/18 Dr switched to Paxil CR 25 as a last effort to get stabillized. 2/11 back to 20 mg regular paxil 3/11-7/11- down to 15 mg paxil very depressed 10/11 added 25mg zoloft 12/11 down to 10 mg paxil-couldnt take it. 12/11 back to 15 mg. 2/12-10/12 weaned off

10-20-2010, 09:18 AM	#231
long_way_home Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 815	Re: Couldnt make it Hi Vetteman, you've probably mentioned this before, but the thread is pretty long- why did you decide to go off of Paxil in the first place? __________________ 8 months: 10mg Lexapro 12 months: 20mg 12/14/09: 10mg for 2 weeks 01/01/10-03/23/10: 5mg 03/24/10-04/19/10: nothing Experienced bad withdrawal, so decided to reinstate and taper 04/20/10: Reinstated 5mg for 2 weeks 05/06/10: 4.5mg 06/03/10: 4mg 07/26/10: 3.6mg 09/06/10: 3.4mg 11/10/10: 3.1mg (No major withdrawal symptoms below this dose) Continued to taper 10% every 3 weeks... 06/15/11: Reached 0.9mg 07/05/11: 0.8mg 07/27/11: 0.7mg 08/16/11: Off Lexapro!

10-20-2010, 09:40 AM	#232
vetteman Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 201	Re: Couldnt make it I decided to get off paxil when my grandson was born. It was then that I noticed that my joy at that event was not as "moving" as it should have been even after the baby was named after me. I looked back at some of the good things and bad things that happened over the last five years and realized that I was on "too even of a keel" which is not what the way the real world is. I used to cry at "chick flicks" and used to laugh at good comedies and all of that was gone. I definitely feel that I needed the drug when I first started taking it due to divorce, job problems, etc. Was in a very bad depression, but as time went on and those things straightened out I should have backed off then. I will state I really didnt experience the weight gain or sexual dysfunction that are usual side effects but I think that was due to a very rigourous workout schedule. I guess I was lucky in that respect. I was also drining too much alcohol while on paxil. I finally decided to enjoy whatever time I have left on this earth with my grandchild and kids without being in suspended animation. I truly wish that I had found this site before taking matters into my own hands. I have now created this mess I am in and hoping that my reinstatement works. At that point I am determined to get "my life" back and try to get through the peaks and valleys. I think that is what life is and we as a culture are used to taking a pill that cures all. When things go bad it is okay to be down and when things are good I want to enjoy them. Hope that explains it. __________________ 2003-2010 20 mg paxil for depression and stress 6/10 cut to 10 mg 8/10 cut to 5mg 9/10 cut to 0 9/10 resintated to 20 mg waiting to get stable to begin slow slow wean 10/18 Dr switched to Paxil CR 25 as a last effort to get stabillized. 2/11 back to 20 mg regular paxil 3/11-7/11- down to 15 mg paxil very depressed 10/11 added 25mg zoloft 12/11 down to 10 mg paxil-couldnt take it. 12/11 back to 15 mg. 2/12-10/12 weaned off

10-21-2010, 05:09 AM	#239
Junior Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 6,353	Re: Couldnt make it Wait until you get to 48 __________________ 2009 23 Sept - 40mg; 12 Dec -30mg; 2010 16 Jan-25mg; 12 Feb-20mg; 3 May-25mg 28 June-30mg; 10 Sept-25mg; 24 Sept-27.5mg 17 Dec-26mg - stopped stuffing around and got sensible 201116 Jan-25mg; 22 Feb-24mg; 25 Mar-23mg ;24 April-22mg; 26 May-21mg; 5 July-22mg; 5 Sept-21mg; 4 Oct-20mg; 8 Nov-19mg; 4 Dec-18mg; 20124 Jan-17mg; 13 Feb-16mg; 21 June-15mg; 5 Aug-14mg; 17 Sept-13mg, 18 Dec-12.5mg 201327 Jan-12mg, 11 Mar-11.5mg, 2 May-11mg

10-21-2010, 08:23 AM	#240
vetteman Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 201	Re: Couldnt make it You guys are supposed to cheer me up and I just turned 55. Now I am REALLY DEPRESSED. Does that mean I am beyond middle aged? Todays update: A few good days in a row at work. Had real glimpses of my old self. Last night actually watched my beloved Yankees finally win a game. First time I watched TV for more than ten minutes in a long time. Tinnitus is still very annoying and pressure at work is enormous but seem to be handling it ok for a change. Morning anxiety not too bad except I am not a morning person and hate getting out of bed (especially this time of year). A little anxiety about tomorrow, my day off in which I tend to hang around and do nothing except think about how crappy I feel. Interested to see if I am somewhat ok tomorrow. This is the first time I am somewhat convinced that I have had improvments and even my family tells me I sound different on the phone-must be a good sign. __________________ 2003-2010 20 mg paxil for depression and stress 6/10 cut to 10 mg 8/10 cut to 5mg 9/10 cut to 0 9/10 resintated to 20 mg waiting to get stable to begin slow slow wean 10/18 Dr switched to Paxil CR 25 as a last effort to get stabillized. 2/11 back to 20 mg regular paxil 3/11-7/11- down to 15 mg paxil very depressed 10/11 added 25mg zoloft 12/11 down to 10 mg paxil-couldnt take it. 12/11 back to 15 mg. 2/12-10/12 weaned off

10-21-2010, 08:32 AM	#241
LCrawford67 Moderator "Everybody poops" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 34,484	Re: Couldnt make it Woo hoo! Kickass, Vetteman! Instead of hanging around tomorrow, make yourself go out for a while. Go shopping (I can happily give you my shoe size and type of shoes I like) get some lunch, stuff like that Oh, and 55 isn't old either. I'm telling ya...they're just numbers __________________ aka LC aka Laurie C. Paxil, 20 mg since 1997, for IBS Two unsuccessful attempts to quit. Started tapering 11/27/06 PAXIL FREE 12/29/07 Today is the best day, EVER!

10-21-2010, 08:47 AM	#242
vetteman Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 201	Re: Couldnt make it Laurie-going to do my best to spend some money tomorrow. What size shoes do you wear-lol. Going to try to meet some friends for lunch and force myself to get out of the house. Not going to think about it and psyche myself out. Just sleep in for awhile and carry on. __________________ 2003-2010 20 mg paxil for depression and stress 6/10 cut to 10 mg 8/10 cut to 5mg 9/10 cut to 0 9/10 resintated to 20 mg waiting to get stable to begin slow slow wean 10/18 Dr switched to Paxil CR 25 as a last effort to get stabillized. 2/11 back to 20 mg regular paxil 3/11-7/11- down to 15 mg paxil very depressed 10/11 added 25mg zoloft 12/11 down to 10 mg paxil-couldnt take it. 12/11 back to 15 mg. 2/12-10/12 weaned off

10-21-2010, 08:49 AM	#243
LCrawford67 Moderator "Everybody poops" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 34,484	Re: Couldnt make it Good for you! Spending money always cheers me up...so does lunch (food!) You'll get to the point, hopefully starting tomorrow, when you'll look forward to your days off again. __________________ aka LC aka Laurie C. Paxil, 20 mg since 1997, for IBS Two unsuccessful attempts to quit. Started tapering 11/27/06 PAXIL FREE 12/29/07 Today is the best day, EVER!

10-22-2010, 02:14 PM	#244
vetteman Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 201	Re: Couldnt make it Todays post. Is stability finally around the corner. Nice night out with friends last night. Off today and although still a lack of motivation got out of the house to get some stuff done. Getting out today has been easier than the last few weeks __________________ 2003-2010 20 mg paxil for depression and stress 6/10 cut to 10 mg 8/10 cut to 5mg 9/10 cut to 0 9/10 resintated to 20 mg waiting to get stable to begin slow slow wean 10/18 Dr switched to Paxil CR 25 as a last effort to get stabillized. 2/11 back to 20 mg regular paxil 3/11-7/11- down to 15 mg paxil very depressed 10/11 added 25mg zoloft 12/11 down to 10 mg paxil-couldnt take it. 12/11 back to 15 mg. 2/12-10/12 weaned off

10-22-2010, 02:21 PM	#245
ray34iyf Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: WI Posts: 1,315	Re: Couldnt make it The fact that you're feeling this right now leads me to believe that even if you hit more bumps in the road, it's going to eventually even out for you. __________________ July '07 - Nov 2010 = HELL Tapered off 20mg Celexa in a month November 14th -- SSRI FREE Positives: So many Eating live foods/juicing & natural healing have taken my life to a new level Also, absolute BEST technique I've ever experienced for ANY type of negative emotions (anxiety, depression, etc) EMOTIONAL FREEDOM TECHNIQUE (unbelievable how it works) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmIS69vB12I

10-22-2010, 03:08 PM	#248
LCrawford67 Moderator "Everybody poops" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 34,484	Re: Couldnt make it Yeah!!! __________________ aka LC aka Laurie C. Paxil, 20 mg since 1997, for IBS Two unsuccessful attempts to quit. Started tapering 11/27/06 PAXIL FREE 12/29/07 Today is the best day, EVER!

10-22-2010, 05:30 PM	#249
warbird Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 364	Re: Couldnt make it Good news Vette! I'm glad to hear you're feeling better.

10-23-2010, 08:53 AM	#250
vetteman Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 201	Re: Couldnt make it Todays post. Well yesterday I did feel better and got my errands done. Ended up with a work problem (even though I was off) that gave me some anxiety, but then got a call late in the day with a dinner invite that I accepted without hesitation. Small changes but they are becoming noticeable to me which I accept as a real good sign. Up to now, the changes were being seen by others but not by me. I am not anticipating too much as this week coming up is going to be a nightmare. So slow and steady I hope. __________________ 2003-2010 20 mg paxil for depression and stress 6/10 cut to 10 mg 8/10 cut to 5mg 9/10 cut to 0 9/10 resintated to 20 mg waiting to get stable to begin slow slow wean 10/18 Dr switched to Paxil CR 25 as a last effort to get stabillized. 2/11 back to 20 mg regular paxil 3/11-7/11- down to 15 mg paxil very depressed 10/11 added 25mg zoloft 12/11 down to 10 mg paxil-couldnt take it. 12/11 back to 15 mg. 2/12-10/12 weaned off

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