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Old 06-07-2011, 08:31 PM   #1
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HOW LONG DOES WITHDRAWAL LAST?

I know this question is asked a lot, but what I don't get is, shouldn't these drugs b e out of my system after 7 weeks? I feel like I am getting worse the longer I am off. For people like my family and wife, how do I explain to them that I am still suffering from a drug I stopped taking almost 2 months ago? Why is it getting worse and not better? I was only on the drug for 9 months...
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Old 06-07-2011, 08:47 PM   #2
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Re: HOW LONG DOES WITHDRAWAL LAST?

It's not about getting the drug out of your system..that's not how these drugs work. They physically alter your brain which needs a considerable amount of time to return to pre-drug state. No one can tell you how long it will last, everyone is different.
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Old 06-07-2011, 08:49 PM   #3
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Perhaps your wife would be willing to come here and learn what you are going through.

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Old 06-07-2011, 08:49 PM   #4
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Yea? And it's possible for everyone to get to that pre drug state? Just hard to have faith when feeling like this.
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Old 06-07-2011, 08:53 PM   #5
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No, I think she realizes what I am going through, but it is hard to understand, myself included. It's like I have never had a problem with any drugs in my life. The whole time I was on it I was fine. Now 7 weeks later I am at my worst? Just confusing...
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Old 06-07-2011, 09:53 PM   #6
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Re: HOW LONG DOES WITHDRAWAL LAST?

Did you quit cold turkey? That tends to make withdrawal both longer and more difficult.
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Old 06-07-2011, 09:57 PM   #7
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No, but not sure if I tapered too quickly. Was on 100mgs of Nortrip for about 7 months, and then went down about 25mgs a week I think, then did 25mgs for about 3 weeks, then one every other day for about 3 weeks...per doctors orders. I knew nothing about this at the time, first thing I noticed was a sudden influx of floaters and dry mouth. Been off for 7 weeks now and things have only gotten worse.
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Old 06-08-2011, 08:23 AM   #8
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Re: HOW LONG DOES WITHDRAWAL LAST?

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I know this question is asked a lot, but what I don't get is, shouldn't these drugs b e out of my system after 7 weeks? I feel like I am getting worse the longer I am off. For people like my family and wife, how do I explain to them that I am still suffering from a drug I stopped taking almost 2 months ago? Why is it getting worse and not better? I was only on the drug for 9 months...
I got worse before I got better in a lot of ways. I was on multiple drugs for 13years, and after a year off, I was still a mess, felt spacy, couldn't complete a sentence, couldn't get food in the house or keep the house clean, etc.

I couldn't get my family to read much about it and I sure couldn't explain it in my own words. I struggled with that too.

A book that helped ME to understand and feel less like a crazy person was "Your Drug May Be Your Problem" by Dr. Peter Breggin. It has advice for family members that would be great if your wife would read it too.
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Old 06-08-2011, 08:24 AM   #9
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Were you on any meds before Nortrip?
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Old 06-08-2011, 11:27 AM   #10
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My original post on to this site:

Hey everyone. I have been reading these posts for months now. I have to say in some sick way I have found comfort knowing that I am not the only one suffering from weird symptoms. It seems like most people on here are suffering way more than me, but I have had my own personal hell, not just in the last 3 months since my taper, but the last year and a half in general. I have told my story many times, so will try to keep it short.

March 2010 I started have strange dizzy spells. I was suffering from imbalance issues. It took me forever to find out what was wrong. In about 6 months I saw maybe 9 doctors. A few of them were convincing me that I had migraine problems, even after I had testing done 3 separate times showing that I had a large vestibular (inner ear) loss. The doctors felt that Vestibular Neuritis (which I had) would not have lasted that long. They started pushing drugs on me for migraines. These are the drugs I was on, all described by different doctors and specialists. Looking back, this is crazy to see what I tried, but for anyone who has never experienced a vestibular problem as bad as mine, you have no idea how scary it is:

Nortriptyline (tryciclic AD) - About 9 mos, starting at 25mg building to 100mg a day. 100mg for at least 5 mos. This was done with very little Dr. supervision.

Topamax - Only about 2 weeks. I didn't like the drug and did not trust the Dr.

Neurontin - 300mgs for about 3 months

Klonopin - 2.5 or 5mg depending on situation. Used this as needed.

Valium- 5mg? Used as needed.


In the end, I ended up finding a Physio Therapist in Jan of 2011 who specializes in vestibular and balance problems. She was a godsend. I saw her once a week and she gave me exercises to do at home that would help my head, eye and body coordination. All I can say is that I never thought I would get better, and now in the last 2 months or so, cannot believe how much better I am! I have had this problem for almost 1.5 years, and am glad that the worst of it is over.

So, once I started feeling a little better, I figured I would get off this last drug I was on, the Nortrip. I called the doctor in Feb and he told me to go from 100mg to 75 for two weeks, then 50 for two, then 25 for two, then take 25 every other day. Honestly, I think he might have just told me one week per drop...can't recall. Anyway, I recall driving one day and started seeing little bubble shaped FLOATERS against the skyline and bright colored cars. I don't remember when it was that I started noticing the horrible spiderweb / fiber FLOATERS, but those are still very constant. I have been officially off the drugs for 5 weeks now, which seems still early by judging what I have read on here from other posters.

I saw an Opthamalogist in October 2010, before I had any of the floaters or light sensitivity. We both felt that my eyes were perfect. I have never had any vision problems or complaints. As soon as the floaters started I saw him in March. He couldn't find anything wrong. I saw him again a few weeks back, in May. Again he said I have perfect eyes. Can see nothing wrong. I explained to him my theory about the drugs doing something to my nerves or eyes. He , like all the other doctors, said that that drug should or wouldn't do this to me, but he understood I was suffering so told me my theory could be somewhat possible.

I am obviously fixated on this now. I feel like if I knew the drugs were 100% my problem and this would somehow, someday go away, I would be ok with it. I mean, I just got through 16 months of what I thought was the worst thing I have experienced in my life. I now know I can face anything, but the uncertainty is scary.

This brings me to my questions:

I read about Benzo's and SSRI's on here a lot, but can a Tryclicic do this to me?

Was 10 month and 100mgs on this drug a long time?

Is it strange that really the only sidefx I notice are the floaters, light sensitivity and severe dehydration? I have some fogginess in the head and cognitive problems, but I had these the entire time I had my vestibular problem.


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The only reason I was put on it was because my doctor kept trying to convince me that I had migraines, which I never did. My only problem was VN. When I said I felt fine on the drug, I meant I had no side effects. Once I started getting better with VRT, I decided I no longer needed the drug. Plus my doctor was not monitoring me at all. When I would see him after a few month he would just say "Try going up to 75mg...now 100mg..." I didn't have migraines or anxiety problems so why stay on it? Plus I had multiple other doctors giving me other drugs all at the same time. None of them thought this was strange or weird. I am not even close to bedridden. My sleep is good and I work full time. My balance was great for about a month or so while off these drugs too. The only thing I really noticed once I started tapering was the eye floaters which is very, very common with AD withdrawal. They are not "real" floaters which everyone suggests. Bunches of them showed up over night within days of my taper. I am young and healthy with no eyes issues whatsoever. I have seen the Opthamologist twice and he had done thorough checks both times. He says my eyes are perfect and he sees no floaters or other issues. I DO NOT have migraines. I know I have/had VN because my gaze stability has greatly improved with VRT. I had weeks where I didn't think about my VN or imbalance. I really thought I turned the corner. I know these drugs did something to my Nervous System because I can't walk outside without being blinded by the sun and seeing black and clear objects floating all over the place as well as visual snow. My biggest problem now is the chicken and the egg. Am I having vestibular problems or withdrawal problems. Is one causing the other?


As far as any other drugs, there was a time about 10 years ago when I used Zoloft for about 2 years. In my late teens I would get terrible nervous stomachs and throw up a lot. I had no problem on Zoloft or getting off. I came off of it because I outgrew my anxiety problem. I was anxiety and drug free for about 5 to 6 years. The only reason I started trying these other drugs was because I could not figure out my vestibular problem. Also, walking around dizzy all day and not knowing the problem did create some anxiety, so the Nortrip did help me. But once I started to get my balance back and more confident I decided I wanted to be drug free. Other than the vestibular and withdrawal symptoms causing some depression and anxiety now, I don't have any "real" depression or anxiety. I love my job. I love my wife and family. Everything is good. I just want to feel normal again and it has been a year and a half since I felt that way. I am scared I will never feel like my old self again. I cannot stress enough that this vestibular problem has nothing at all to do with anxiety or depression. It is real. I had testing done three times showing that I had severe loss of my input on my right side. I have almost conquered this problem which is why these floaters and eye problems that seem like something so minor to many people on this site are such a big deal to me. I had 16 months where I couldn't walk or think straight, now I got these things that affect me every second my eyes are open. I am content now that this problem is here and may be here for awhile, but I would feel way better if I knew these problems were normal for someone in my situation and will eventually get better and go away.

Thank you for your time everyone, I am really having a hard time right now.
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Old 06-08-2011, 04:01 PM   #11
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if you tapered too quick..the withdraw COULD last for a very long time...my withdrawal symptoms started getting worse when i was 7 month OFF PAXIL..and just got horrible from then on..so i had to go back on ect...its always better to do a very slow taper...i am now at 10.5 and it has taken me one year and a bit to just get there from 20mgs! i should be done by march 2012 depending on how the rest goes after i am under 10.5..i might have to stay longer at some doses!
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Old 06-10-2011, 11:07 AM   #12
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Well, I am off the drug and will never go on another one again. I guess I just have to ride this one out in misery.
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Old 06-10-2011, 02:56 PM   #13
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I don't know anything about tricyclics, but your taper was pretty fast by SSRI standards, and alternating doses is the last thing you want to do. Yet doctors keep telling their patients this; we see it here constantly. I wish they would wake up and realize how much they are harming people with their faulty advice. If nothing else, I suppose this has been a big lesson to you to be your own advocate and don't take anything a doc says as true without researching it yourself. I know it was for me.
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Old 06-11-2011, 10:11 PM   #14
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if you tapered too quick..the withdraw COULD last for a very long time...my withdrawal symptoms started getting worse when i was 7 month OFF PAXIL..and just got horrible from then on..so i had to go back on ect...its always better to do a very slow taper...i am now at 10.5 and it has taken me one year and a bit to just get there from 20mgs! i should be done by march 2012 depending on how the rest goes after i am under 10.5..i might have to stay longer at some doses!
hi...

i was on 10 mg for several years, and tapered in the fall, and have been off for about 6 months... intially i had emotional issues (crying, etc) which have dissipated. however I am having a lot of tingling sensations in my face (as well as feeling less connected with life around me). it's quite frustrating. i have debated going back on the medicine and doing a slooooower taper. were you able to go back on the same amount you had been on, and get rid of the w/d effects? how long did it take for the w/d effects to go away once you got back on the medicine? i am afraid what if i go back on , and still have w/d effects. have you heard of this happening to anyone for physical w/d effects?
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Old 06-13-2011, 09:22 PM   #15
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I am at the point where no matter how bad things get, I would never take another drug again...
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