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Old 06-17-2013, 08:36 AM   #1
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Fenrir's taper

My tapering started on 6/10/2013 with 18mg instead of my standard dose of 20mg. My story starts in november 2010 when my med prescribed me paroxetine. I experienced the hell on earth from october 2011 to september 2012 due to a CT, I didn't understand at the time that was paxil withdrawal and I tought I had a very serious illness, untill my reinstatement in september 2012 when I found out that my illness was due to needing for my brain and body of paroxetine...how addicting. Now I'm trying to taper it off with much more knowledge. Pray for me guys.
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Old 06-17-2013, 01:13 PM   #2
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Re: Fenrir's taper

Fenrir, you are in the right place and are surrounded by very supportive board members, here. You can do this, this time around. Watch and see.
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Old 06-17-2013, 01:20 PM   #3
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Re: Fenrir's taper

You can do this Fenrir! Good luck!
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Old 06-17-2013, 03:50 PM   #4
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Re: Fenrir's taper

Fenrir, you have switched meds, gone cold turkey from two powerful drugs, changed the dose quite a bit. So your brain is bound to be confused and shocked.

In tapering Paxil this year, did you move straight from 10mg to 20mg on June 9, as your signature indicates? If so, that may have caused more confusion.

In any case, from now on, if I were you I would go very slowly so as not to give your brain any more big shocks. Wait a month between drops, don't drop more than 10% of your previous dose, and listen to how you are feeling before making a drop.

Please let us know how you are feeling now at 18mg. And best of luck!
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:39 AM   #5
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this is day 8 at 18mg, doing quite well, I'm only a little bit nauseated but something very bearable at the moment. I had an acne breakout on day 3 but is seems is already disappearing. I'm only a little frustrated thinking that will take me about 2 years to be paxil free with my slow taper...But I don't want to suffer again like I did.
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:46 AM   #6
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Fenrir, those two years will pass in no time. You don't have to put your life on hold while you taper. Just be grateful that there is a way to get off of this drug without overwhelming agony, and that you have found that way.
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:49 AM   #7
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Re: Fenrir's taper

Glad you are experiencing improvement with the acne. It shows you that all things pass in time.
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Old 06-18-2013, 11:32 AM   #8
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Re: Fenrir's taper

Once you get rolling it is amazing how fast the numbers go down. Don't think about the end point, just try and stay in the now.
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:10 AM   #9
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Quote:
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Glad you are experiencing improvement with the acne. It shows you that all things pass in time.
unfortunately it seems that acne is not going away...I'm surprised that also a 2mg drop could do this.
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Old 06-21-2013, 06:09 AM   #10
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Re: Fenrir's taper

It is surprising what those small drops can do to us. It really is. But I've read about all sorts of experiences around here.
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Old 06-21-2013, 08:54 AM   #11
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Fenrir
Don't be surprised at ANYTHING with these vicious mthfckg drugs.
Take it easy, man/gal, and take it slowly, and steadily.
DAMN YOU, CIBA-GEIGY, FOREST, AND ALL THE REST OF YOUR PILL-PUSHING OPPOS.
MAY YOU ALL END UP IN AN ETERNAL HELL WITH PITCHFORK-WIELDING DEMONS.
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Old 06-21-2013, 11:12 AM   #12
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Re: Fenrir's taper

I'm getting this because after the drop I started to experience a much more oily skin than usual.
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Old 06-30-2013, 09:03 AM   #13
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I think I'm stabilizing, so far quite well. I don't feel anymore the difference from 20mg in physical terms. If everything goes well I'm ready to go off to about 16 mg in july
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Old 07-03-2013, 11:57 AM   #14
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Re: Fenrir's taper

dropped to 16, feeling ok.
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Old 07-06-2013, 09:06 AM   #15
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hehehe, feeling anxious and depressed, no physical symptoms so far.
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Old 07-12-2013, 03:05 PM   #16
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after a few bad days it seems that I'm getting better
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Old 07-12-2013, 03:17 PM   #17
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Good for you! Hang in there, Fenrir.
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Old 07-15-2013, 06:58 AM   #18
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A strange thing is happening...at 16mg I'm experiencing a dramatic increase in libido..
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Old 07-16-2013, 03:38 AM   #19
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Re: Fenrir's taper

my acne is getting worse and worse, never had while on paxil.
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Old 10-31-2013, 10:40 AM   #20
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So, I crashed down reached 10mg, I had to updose to 14mg, which was more or less my last stable dose, or the dose at which I could properly function. I hope to get stable soon because I'm experincing increased anxiety and loss of appetite. And are 3 days that I'm feeling really really depressed sometimes almost suicidal, suicidal thoughts. This crash cancelled my positivity about my taper and my whole life. I ask myself if I'll ever be able to live without the drug again.
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Old 10-31-2013, 03:24 PM   #21
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You will. 14-11mg seems to a be a difficult dose range for many. That is where things fell apart for me. Updosing is a good idea. When you stabilise and are ready to resume your taper, just go a lot slower. Listen to your body. You will be fine.
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Old 10-31-2013, 03:51 PM   #22
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hey fenrir,
sorry you crashed. Same thing happend here. its seems to be always one of those mg zones. Hopefully updosing will work. You should be able to feel if it will in a week or so. You know your own body and mind and how you felt etc. So listen to your inner self and judge..

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Old 11-07-2013, 01:02 PM   #23
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1 week since updose. I still don't feel good, the anxiety improved a little and have no more muscle spasms and tremors. But I feel so unwell anyway, fatigue, general discomfort especially after eating (I must lay down), agitation during sleep etc. Someone experienced the same things? I'm wondering how all this will fade away...
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1/3/2014-13mg
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Old 11-09-2013, 02:10 PM   #24
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nine days after the updose, at least now I don't have to force myself to eat. Anxiety is still there but improved. And the positive aspect about all this is that now I know I can't drop more than 10% and will no more speed up the weaning process.
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1/3/2014-13mg
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Old 11-15-2013, 07:26 AM   #25
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Anxiety still there hope to get rid of it soon.
General malaise still but improving.
Have to slow down, I'll stay on 14mg for 2-3 months I think.
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1/3/2014-13mg
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