Define being stable...

IMISSME · 04-23-2012, 03:54 PM

What does being stable mean to you all? Since I never had to go back and stabilize on Paxil I really don't know what that means. I know what it means to feel crappy and have all those symptoms with paxil withdrawal. I don't think that being stable means being symptom free, right?

LCrawford67 · 04-23-2012, 04:16 PM

You're correct. Stable, especially if you're in tolerance (poop out) doesn't necessarily mean symptom free. However, you should feel somewhat decent enough, and confident enough to taper.

GrandmaD · 04-23-2012, 08:39 PM

Good question! Something am always wondering about!

I waited for 11weeks and had 1 good day and dropped. Not even sure 1 day is long enought to wait! ANyway, I survived.

I am in the same boat again now. In week 11 and not sure whether to drop at the end of this week or not.

chiropteran · 04-23-2012, 09:48 PM

I think it's probably different for everyone - not a helpful answer, but true!
For me, it's feeling like I have a little calm area inside - a sense of inner strength. Even if it's fleeting, comes and goes, or is very small, it's a distinct feeling that I can handle things again, that I'm not just treading water. It certainly isn't being 'symptom free', but it IS related to any of the more severe symptoms I might experience a few days after a drop having settled down to a manageable roar. I suppose I'm lucky that I do have a kind of pattern - many don't.

julieannboo · 04-24-2012, 03:14 AM

for me stable and having a good day is not experiencing health anixety.

GrandmaD · 04-29-2012, 01:37 AM

Does that mean that just 1 day of feeling "stable" is sufficient and then taper?

Junior · 04-29-2012, 02:11 AM

For me it means no new symptoms and a distinct lessening of the regular ones.

GrandmaD · 04-29-2012, 02:18 AM

Thanks guys, these tips have been very helpful for me. I just re-read them, and thought that one about feeling "confident" is a good one too.

lmac · 04-29-2012, 07:44 AM

For me being stable is having that confident feeling for at least week. Not that feeling of "at any moment I may become scared, frightened, lose my mind" etc. But I wouldn't classify 1 good day as stable. I'd wait at least a week of feeling pretty good.

04-23-2012, 03:54 PM	#1
IMISSME Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 814	Define being stable... What does being stable mean to you all? Since I never had to go back and stabilize on Paxil I really don't know what that means. I know what it means to feel crappy and have all those symptoms with paxil withdrawal. I don't think that being stable means being symptom free, right? __________________ 20 mg paxil 1998 for "night terrors" 2 attempts to quit mid 2000's mid 2010, 10 mg after poopout 1 month 5 mg 5/5/2011 C/T'd 2 months physical symptoms minor bad thoughts then emotional hell, complete panic mid July July 2011 started 15 mg Remeron for sleep Currently at 2.10mg Remeron

04-23-2012, 04:16 PM	#2
LCrawford67 Moderator "Everybody poops" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 34,485	Re: Define being stable... You're correct. Stable, especially if you're in tolerance (poop out) doesn't necessarily mean symptom free. However, you should feel somewhat decent enough, and confident enough to taper. __________________ aka LC aka Laurie C. Paxil, 20 mg since 1997, for IBS Two unsuccessful attempts to quit. Started tapering 11/27/06 PAXIL FREE 12/29/07 Today is the best day, EVER!

04-23-2012, 08:39 PM	#3
GrandmaD Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 1,515	Re: Define being stable... Good question! Something am always wondering about! I waited for 11weeks and had 1 good day and dropped. Not even sure 1 day is long enought to wait! ANyway, I survived. I am in the same boat again now. In week 11 and not sure whether to drop at the end of this week or not. __________________ 1995-2001 20mg 2008-2010 alt doses/skipping doses/switching med/CT 2011-10mg: 10% drops from 10mg to about 7.7 over 6 weeks-crashed after 6 mos June 2011 - 8mg July 2011 - 9mg July-Oct 8mg/9mg (inacurate scales) Oct 2011 - 8.6 caps Nov 2011 - 8.1 caps Dec 2011 - 8.1 tab Dec 14 - 7.7 Jan 11 - 7.3 May 2012 - 7.0 Jun 6.6 Aug 6.4 Oct 6.2 Dec 6.0 Jan 5.7

04-23-2012, 09:48 PM	#4
chiropteran Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,026	Re: Define being stable... I think it's probably different for everyone - not a helpful answer, but true! For me, it's feeling like I have a little calm area inside - a sense of inner strength. Even if it's fleeting, comes and goes, or is very small, it's a distinct feeling that I can handle things again, that I'm not just treading water. It certainly isn't being 'symptom free', but it IS related to any of the more severe symptoms I might experience a few days after a drop having settled down to a manageable roar. I suppose I'm lucky that I do have a kind of pattern - many don't. __________________ '83-90: Various tricyclics, anti-psychotics, tranqs. '90-02: Prozac - poopout 2002 '02-10: Paroxetine 40, 60, 80mg. ENOUGH! Jun10-Feb11: Slow taper 80-60mg, 5-12% Feb-Jul11: 60-50, 5% 6wkly Jul11-Mar12: 50-20, 10% 6wkly Hold at 20 for winter... Aug-Dec12: 18, 16.2, 14.6, 13.1, 10.6 (error), 9.5 Jan-Apr13: 8.6, 7.7, 6.9, 6.2, 5.6 1 May13: 5.0 !!!!! 30 May13 4.5

04-24-2012, 03:14 AM	#5
julieannboo Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,395	Re: Define being stable... for me stable and having a good day is not experiencing health anixety. __________________ Paxil History: 20mg - April 1997 0mg - Summer 1998 30mg - October 1999 20mg - October 2002 - July 2011 20mg to 10mg - July 2011 - March 2012 (10% taper) CRASHED when i got to 5.2mg Back on 10mg - STAYING HERE FOR TIME BEING.

04-29-2012, 01:37 AM	#6
GrandmaD Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 1,515	Re: Define being stable... Does that mean that just 1 day of feeling "stable" is sufficient and then taper?

04-29-2012, 02:11 AM	#7
Junior Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 6,671	Re: Define being stable... For me it means no new symptoms and a distinct lessening of the regular ones. __________________ 2009 23 Sept - 40mg; 12 Dec -30mg; 2010 16 Jan-25mg; 12 Feb-20mg; 3 May-25mg 28 June-30mg; 10 Sept-25mg; 24 Sept-27.5mg 17 Dec-26mg - stopped stuffing around and got sensible 201116 Jan-25mg; 22 Feb-24mg; 25 Mar-23mg ;24 April-22mg; 26 May-21mg; 5 July-22mg; 5 Sept-21mg; 4 Oct-20mg; 8 Nov-19mg; 4 Dec-18mg; 20124 Jan-17mg; 13 Feb-16mg; 21 June-15mg; 5 Aug-14mg; 17 Sept-13mg, 18 Dec-12.5mg 201327 Jan-12mg, 11 Mar-11.5mg, 2 May-11mg

04-29-2012, 02:18 AM	#8
GrandmaD Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 1,515	Re: Define being stable... Thanks guys, these tips have been very helpful for me. I just re-read them, and thought that one about feeling "confident" is a good one too.

04-29-2012, 07:44 AM	#9
lmac Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 965	Re: Define being stable... For me being stable is having that confident feeling for at least week. Not that feeling of "at any moment I may become scared, frightened, lose my mind" etc. But I wouldn't classify 1 good day as stable. I'd wait at least a week of feeling pretty good. __________________ Lmac - 1998-2002: Celexa 20mg - 2002-2010: Paxil 20mg - 2009 - 20-0 mg paxil in 5 mnths(with prozac) - 2009 (Dec): reinstated after 4 mnths off (crash) - 2009 Dec -2010 Nov: Paxil 20mg - 2010 Nov: switched to Zoloft 50mg (Paxil poop) - 2011 Mar: tapered Zoloft (5.5 mnths) - March: 37.5mg for 2 weeks - April: 25 mg for 2 weeks - April: 12.5mg for 18 weeks AD free since Sept 4th, 2011 - Feb - March 2012: Crashed - May 2012 - Finally seeing SOME real windows

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