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Old 08-25-2012, 09:38 AM   #1
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Can Paxil lower testosterone?

Can Paxil cause low testosterone from long term use? Can someone help me with this topic please. I read mixed information about this. I speculate that Paxil does indirectly lower testosterone because libido is reduced.
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Old 08-25-2012, 09:50 AM   #2
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Re: Can Paxil lower testosterone?

yes it does lower testosterone. and alter other hormone like LH and FSH
ssri alter HPTA axis , even after discontinuation those hormonal changes
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Re: Can Paxil lower testosterone?

King-- there are quite a few members here who have been tested and have low T after being on Paxil. I think I remember them saying the exercise helps raise the levels.
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Re: Can Paxil lower testosterone?

I've been wondering about if it lowers progesterone because I have that problem now... so if can mess with one hormone, I'm sure it can mess with any of them!
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yes it does lower testosterone. and alter other hormone like LH and FSH
ssri alter HPTA axis , even after discontinuation those hormonal changes
can persist.
Thanks for the information. My testosterone has been below normal for years. Will this come back? Anyone had good outcomes from this or ended up on HRT therapy?

I can't believe how many things Paxil screws up in the body.

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If it effects men, theres a high probability Paxil messes up womens hormones as well. Men and women both have testosterone and estrogen in different proportions of course. This really sucks for us.
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Old 08-25-2012, 10:06 AM   #6
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I think I've read some studies where they showed lowered T.
Common sense also tells me so. SSRIs turn you into a drowsy fatblob, like the humans in Wall-E. That screams to me high estrogen, with serious man-titty action.
I had my t-levels checked in WD and they were way way low.. At the range of a 70 year old and I was 22 then. Even tried T-gel therapy but that made my nuts feel like they were squeezed in a vice 24/7. Started weightlifting and eating healthy (a lot of cruciferous vegetables, good natural anti-estrogens)
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Old 08-25-2012, 10:17 AM   #7
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I think I've read some studies where they showed lowered T.
Common sense also tells me so. SSRIs turn you into a drowsy fatblob, like the humans in Wall-E. That screams to me high estrogen, with serious man-titty action.
I had my t-levels checked in WD and they were way way low.. At the range of a 70 year old and I was 22 then. Even tried T-gel therapy but that made my nuts feel like they were squeezed in a vice 24/7. Started weightlifting and eating healthy (a lot of cruciferous vegetables, good natural anti-estrogens)
LOL. I like the explanation. Sounds like you T production was shut down from the gel. My t levels came back as a 90 year old man in my 20s. I bet coritsol levels get screwed up as well. Did the T get work or did nothing because the withdrawal?

I bet all these nasty symptoms go under-reported because these stupid Psychiatrists can't put 2 and 2 together.
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Yes, low T scores. Normal range 350 to 800 mine was/is 150. Brought it up to 350 with injections but don't like that so I am not taking anything now. Retest in December. My libido was always in overdrive before and during paxil. I fathered 5 kids but all prior to paxil although last one was after 6 months on paxil.

I am 49 and really wonder if my levels will ever rise on their own.
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Old 08-25-2012, 11:47 AM   #9
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LOL. I like the explanation. Sounds like you T production was shut down from the gel. My t levels came back as a 90 year old man in my 20s. I bet coritsol levels get screwed up as well. Did the T get work or did nothing because the withdrawal?
I can't say if it worked because I stopped it after a couple of days, definitely didn't feel any better. I'd think it's best to avoid TRT until all other options are used + many years of completely AD free. Then if you're living healthy, eating veggies and healthy fats combined with good carbs and protein but still low t- then I might consider it. But it's complicated. Anxiety&Depression lower T aswell so it's just hard to pinpoint the cause.
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I can't say if it worked because I stopped it after a couple of days, definitely didn't feel any better. I'd think it's best to avoid TRT until all other options are used + many years of completely AD free. Then if you're living healthy, eating veggies and healthy fats combined with good carbs and protein but still low t- then I might consider it. But it's complicated. Anxiety&Depression lower T aswell so it's just hard to pinpoint the cause.
This is my thinking on this as well. Two months of injections didn't help me feel any better at all.
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Old 08-25-2012, 12:36 PM   #11
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This is my thinking on this as well. Two months of injections didn't help me feel any better at all.
I wouldn't be surprised if Paxil counters all testosterone injection benefits. I've read some studies indicating SSRI's down regulate androgen receptors. So if your injecting T, it has very limited places to attach in theory. Thats very interesting your T levels only went up to 350 with injections.

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Those T gels take at least a couple of weeks to work. Couple days would do almost nothing.
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Im convinced my low t level (200) is due to paxil. I have no energy whatsoever. Im angry and in total disbelief that a doctor could give me a poison like this. Just google low t and youll soon learn what a major player t is.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Paxil counters all testosterone injection benefits. I've read some studies indicating SSRI's down regulate androgen receptors. So if your injecting T, it has very limited places to attach in theory. Thats very interesting your T levels only went up to 350 with injections.
Right, and I didn't like the shots. I really felt that only bringing the levels up to the low normal was not worth the effort. So, I am doing what everyone says and just wait.
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Hey if anyone finds a research article on this can you put the link up.
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Hey if anyone finds a research article on this can you put the link up.
Thanks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-SS...al_dysfunction

I couldn't find many studies on this topic. Not a very researched area apparently. The etiology is still unknown. This link is kinda related to the low T topic and libido. They actually have studies trying to say SSRI's increase testosterone...what a bunch of BS!
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I'll throw this out there again....do any of you know what your testosterone levels were prior to paxil?
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I'll throw this out there again....do any of you know what your testosterone levels were prior to paxil?

My T levels were in the 600s before Paxil. During and post Paxil are low 200s checked 3 times first thing in the morning. My chart says normal is 300-1100. I have no pituitary problems, already had that checked.
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I'll throw this out there again....do any of you know what your testosterone levels were prior to paxil?
Very good point and I don't know what mine was prior but why I can tell you is my Paxil testosterone level was 295 total then treated for months at 10 nano grams a day which dropped to 293. Months after discontinuing Paxil and having not taken any forms of synthetic testosterone my new level was 490 something.

That's all I can add to the subject at the moment. I have posted about it in the past and my belief is Paxil did cause testosterone level to drop.
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Very good point and I don't know what mine was prior but why I can tell you is my Paxil testosterone level was 295 total then treated for months at 10 nano grams a day which dropped to 293. Months after discontinuing Paxil and having not taken any forms of synthetic testosterone my new level was 490 something.

That's all I can add to the subject at the moment. I have posted about it in the past and my belief is Paxil did cause testosterone level to drop.
So, if paxil did cause it, then removing the paxil and allowing the body time to regulate will resolve the problem. It's pretty obvious that supplementing doesn't do much.
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Can Paxil cause low testosterone from long term use? Can someone help me with this topic please. I read mixed information about this. I speculate that Paxil does indirectly lower testosterone because libido is reduced.
Yes it does it lowered my testosterone. When people say paxil caused me this and that.. they are right because our bodies aren't meant for neurotoxins. Paxil is a neurotoxin and it causes many symptoms and problems. if you didnt have a symptom before pwxil.. paxil is the cause.

look at the list of side effects reported it is so long
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Yes it does it lowered my testosterone. When people say paxil caused me this and that.. they are right because our bodies aren't meant for neurotoxins. Paxil is a neurotoxin and it causes many symptoms and problems. if you didnt have a symptom before pwxil.. paxil is the cause.

look at the list of side effects reported it is so long
Does the list of side effects mention low T, how about high cholesterol. I believe it screws everything up. I just hope my T levels come back. I know it is only part of the libido issue but Low T really effects a man's psyche in our world. But as long as my desires return (and I have no doubt they will) I will be fine.
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So, if paxil did cause it, then removing the paxil and allowing the body time to regulate will resolve the problem. It's pretty obvious that supplementing doesn't do much.
For me that's what happened but others I have read kept having issues well after discontinuing Paxil. Very glad mine resolved itself quickly. Wish I could keep it about 100 lower at times though! Lol
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I dont know what my t levels were before paxil ....but i can tell you that my energy levels were light years away from what they are now.

Bilo posted a linkk to a Healey report stating ssri's shrink the ovaries and testicles........and sometimes is permanent. Testicles make t so now we all know why we have low t. I can only live in hope that in time....maybe years it will lift.
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For me that's what happened but others I have read kept having issues well after discontinuing Paxil. Very glad mine resolved itself quickly. Wish I could keep it about 100 lower at times though! Lol
Paxildream, how long were you on Paxil and how long have you been off? How old are you and did you taper slowly?
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Does the list of side effects mention low T, how about high cholesterol. I believe it screws everything up. I just hope my T levels come back. I know it is only part of the libido issue but Low T really effects a man's psyche in our world. But as long as my desires return (and I have no doubt they will) I will be fine.
Yeah of course it has side effects of low testosterone and high cholesterol. We've been poisoned man. hope you feel better.
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