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Old 11-01-2012, 01:16 AM   #1
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Loose stool shivering seritonin I don't mean to be gross

When I had my adverse reactin over a year ago I got bad diarrhea even mucas went to the restroom 3-5 times a day. Had nausea 2. A year later I go1-2 times aday still real loose and waterey most the time and yellow. Still have nausea somedays And also when I had the bad reaction I was shivering and shaking just recently it started again. Like I'm really cold muscle cramps insomnia . So my question is could my seritonin levels in my gut be supper high. 2 much seritonin causes all these symtems look up seritonin syndrame and 2 much seritonin lowers dopamine that could cause akathisia How can I regulate and heal my gut. This is scary at a year out I still have this problem I never here no 1 else Complain of this. Why is my gut taking so long to heal
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Old 11-01-2012, 04:08 AM   #2
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Re: Loose stool shivering seritonin I don't mean to be gross

*****had an adverse reaction like you, he said to hang onto the fact that its usually 3-18 months for recovery, let me show you a couple of his messages to me

*******
You are not bothering me at all. I know you find it difficult right now because you are very insecure that this can happen to you out of the blue. Just know it is related to your SSRI use. It takes time for your entire bodily system to find its own balance again.. the real you.. but it will... nothing is stronger than your essence.. your DNA... your dreams.. your desires.. your nature... therefore, let it all go... release everything you were holding on to... release your EGO... it may sound strange... but this is the answer... I lived it so I know... you will be just fine in few months time... whether it will be 3 or 18... hang on to that..

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so you mean accept what is happening, live the life I can while this is going on and find a way to be as comfortable as possible, dont force myself to do things Im not comfortable with at the moment.
Sooth myself and keep as calm as possible?
Did you have akathesia and anxiety?

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Exactly. I had EVERY unknown symptom at that time.. I even was given the choice to leave this plane.. but I didn't.
Yes I am entirely free from all symptoms I had back than..

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Old 11-01-2012, 04:19 AM   #3
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Re: Loose stool shivering seritonin I don't mean to be gross

445 am my time have not slept I'm suffering tonight. I just keep swallowing like I have to much spit nauseated
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Old 11-01-2012, 04:46 AM   #4
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Re: Loose stool shivering seritonin I don't mean to be gross

Excessive salivation is horrible. I had it quite a lot in withdrawal. It's a nuisance, but better than having a bone-dry mouth.
I think it's the salivary glands reactivating themselves. It didn't last more than 2 or 3 weeks for me as far as I can remember.
Just swallow it or spit it out. But you won't choke in your sleep, if that's what you're worried about. Your body knows how to prevent that.
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Old 11-01-2012, 06:42 AM   #5
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Not afraid just sick and tired
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Old 11-01-2012, 07:10 AM   #6
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Re: Loose stool shivering seritonin I don't mean to be gross

Oxygenman - are you taking magnesium? Too much of that can cause loose stools.
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Old 11-01-2012, 07:11 AM   #7
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No magnesium I was going to try it but haven't yet
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Old 11-01-2012, 07:12 AM   #8
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Lied tried it once last week 250 mg
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Old 11-01-2012, 07:43 AM   #9
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Re: Loose stool shivering seritonin I don't mean to be gross

try a low tryptophan diet for a week or two and see if that helps. That will deffintley lower your serotonin level
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:35 AM   #10
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I'm going to look that up and try it
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:24 PM   #11
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Re: Loose stool shivering seritonin I don't mean to be gross

oxygen, I too have bouts of shakiness, and feeling cold no matter what, just chilled to the bone. And rumbly guts, with loose poo or even diarhea and it's YELLOW (sorry to be gross but it's almost like raw egg yolk) too...why i have no idea, something (I think) with it passing through the system too fast and having extra bile in it? I have no idea. But I have definately had it on and off in the last 20 months since I came off Effexor too fast.Also nausea, that's how i know I'm in a bad wave, I can't eat, high anxiety, runny yellow poo and nausea. Weird huh. It's def. a temporaray withdrawal thing.
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Old 11-01-2012, 02:46 PM   #12
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Mine has been constant when did it start making changes and it start coming in waves
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:13 PM   #13
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Dude go see a doctor and get things checked out. It could be drug related but I wouldn't wait around forever hoping it will go away bc it could be something that needs to b treated.
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:23 PM   #14
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Hey Bruno I don't no if you seem any of my past post I had spend thousands of dollers MRI EEG stool samples blood work I have gad12 blood labs done to make sure been tested for every thing from a-z. Even blood doctors my last work up was seven pages long and I was healthy
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:36 PM   #15
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Ohh I didn't realize that. Well at least u know things are ok!!! Don't underestimate the effects of stress. The more u stress and worry the worse the problem gets. What are u doing for stress? Are u in psychotherapy? How is your diet?

I think its aleady known (not sure about research) that these drugs, as well as many, have a negative effects on the gut flora and who knows what else. So make certain u are taking probiotics. I too have been having digestive issues but mine are just before I have a bowel movement. I get a sharp pain in my colon area and my doc told me to start on citracell which seems to be helping.
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:40 PM   #16
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Also look into the GAPS diet and taking digestive enzymes
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:34 PM   #17
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Thanks guys for your replys thanks Bruno for he advice I just can't wait till I could come on here and tell you guys these symptems are starting to drop off and I'm HEALED.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:41 PM   #18
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Thanks guys for your replys thanks Bruno for he advice I just can't wait till I could come on here and tell you guys these symptems are starting to drop off and I'm HEALED.
yea man start healing that gut. Best thing for sealing the gut is bone stock. Did you research the GAPS?

Go to the Weston A Price foundation website and find a place around your area that sells grass fed beef bones. Or you can buy an organic chicken and use those bones. Anyways, you simmer the bones for 24 hours or so and add some sea salt of after. Add a little apple cider vinegar while u simmer to extract the minerals. check it out
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Old 11-03-2012, 06:03 PM   #19
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Re: Loose stool shivering seritonin I don't mean to be gross

it lasted the first 7 months, then began more of a window wave pattern after that, every few months I'll get a month or so of it. Last time was in July, who knows when or if it comes back...guess I have to find out.
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************* had an adverse reaction like you, he said to hang onto the fact that its usually 3-18 months for recovery, let me show you a couple of his messages to me

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You are not bothering me at all. I know you find it difficult right now because you are very insecure that this can happen to you out of the blue. Just know it is related to your SSRI use. It takes time for your entire bodily system to find its own balance again.. the real you.. but it will... nothing is stronger than your essence.. your DNA... your dreams.. your desires.. your nature... therefore, let it all go... release everything you were holding on to... release your EGO... it may sound strange... but this is the answer... I lived it so I know... you will be just fine in few months time... whether it will be 3 or 18... hang on to that..

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so you mean accept what is happening, live the life I can while this is going on and find a way to be as comfortable as possible, dont force myself to do things Im not comfortable with at the moment.
Sooth myself and keep as calm as possible?
Did you have akathesia and anxiety?

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Exactly. I had EVERY unknown symptom at that time.. I even was given the choice to leave this plane.. but I didn't.
Yes I am entirely free from all symptoms I had back than..
Hi, this is happening to me and scaring the daylights out of me. How long do the waves last for?. Did You lose a lot of weight? ans At what stage in your wd did it stop?..or even ease off as mine is relentless! (sorry to bother you) Jo xxx

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When I had my adverse reactin over a year ago I got bad diarrhea even mucas went to the restroom 3-5 times a day. Had nausea 2. A year later I go1-2 times aday still real loose and waterey most the time and yellow. Still have nausea somedays And also when I had the bad reaction I was shivering and shaking just recently it started again. Like I'm really cold muscle cramps insomnia . So my question is could my seritonin levels in my gut be supper high. 2 much seritonin causes all these symtems look up seritonin syndrame and 2 much seritonin lowers dopamine that could cause akathisia How can I regulate and heal my gut. This is scary at a year out I still have this problem I never here no 1 else Complain of this. Why is my gut taking so long to heal
Hello. can you tell me how this worked out for you as im going through it myself and dr has tried to put me on mirtazapine to stop it! If i know it will stop eventualy of its own accord i can ride it out. cheers jo xxx
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The gut is our second brain!

We have the evidence!, hahaha
Empirically tested in our body, lol
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Jo, I too have had these symptoms ever since ct off paxil, now 9 months. I do believe in the last couple of weeks I have seen some improvement but still have to force myself to eat and continue to have daily diarrhea. Today has been bad but some days are a bit better. Wish I could give you better news but I have to hope that it will eventually go away. I've tried everything possible over the past year and believe that only time helps.
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Old 03-06-2013, 04:42 PM   #24
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Hi oxygenman,
Epsom salt helps a bit with my digestive problems. Also, a probiotic can help with digestion by building up good bacteria in the digestive system. Ask your doctor about trying this. My digestive problems are starting to get a little better since tapering down. I also noticed that exercise makes my bloating, burping and indigestion worse. I only do very light exercise.

Hope this helps and you start feeling better.
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So sorry you are experiencing this, Oxygenman. I wasn't sure if you were still on an SSRI or in the middle of withdrawal, but my experience with chronic diarrhea was during withdrawal. I suffered terribly with diarrhea and nausea for about 2 years after discontinuing Paxil and then started to see small improvements during the 3rd year. During the time I had this issue, I had to follow the IBS diet and remove all insoluable fiber. That did help. Then when I started to see some improvement, I gradually introduced fruits and veggies back into my diet. It's been 4 years this month of being Paxil-free and I can eat normally now. BTW, during all of the digestive issues I had tons of tests, including ultrasound, full blood panel tests several times, testing for celiac disease and H Pylori. I was almost going to put myself through a colonoscopy, but decided not to. Of course in the end everything came back normal because after all, my symptoms were caused by Paxil withdrawal.

Hang in there!!!! I know how hard this is.
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