Day 7 Paxil free

paxilgirl · 10-09-2004, 07:23 PM

I must say that this has been QUITE the week. I've been feeling the roller coaster effects of being paxil free and not liking it at all.

I almost came close to taking a pill last night.

The thing is, my greatest difficulties is when I go to bed. That is when all the anxiety and worries and just downright dispair keep flaring up. To the point now that I hat the thought of going to bed. I don't want to. I just end up crying for half an hour. I'm wondering when this will stop as it upsets me even more.

Is there anything NATURAL I can take to calm me down? The lack of, and fear of going to, sleep is putting a stress on me.

*yawn!*

scotty · 10-09-2004, 08:17 PM

Paxil girl, sleep was the worst for Ryan. That's when the defenses we naturally have kind of fall apart. He would end up staying up all night and then sleeping in the day. His sleep is still screwed up, but not as bad as the initial month off paxil. It slowly got better!!

paxilgirl · 10-09-2004, 09:28 PM

Laurie, thanks for that piece of information. A lot of my anxiety of this sleep business is because I tend to think of things that make me axious and sad during the night and try avoiding going to bed. I know I have to eventually, but I can't bring myself to do it.

elisa · 10-09-2004, 11:25 PM

Paxilgirl - it's definitely no fun when you're not able to sleep because of anxiety.

What I find helpful is sprinkling some lavender extract drops on a cloth near my bed pillow. Then try to relax by taking slow deep breaths.

Another one is to take Rescue Remedy from Bach. You can find this in any good health food store.

Valerian Root is good and numerous other products, all natural, to ease you into sleep.

Hope it helps a little.

silence4now · 10-11-2004, 03:09 PM

Paxilgirl,

It's commendable that you've been off 1 whole week, you knew about the withdrawal, and yet you HAVEN"T taken a pill!

The next few months will just be an experiment in trying to manage the side effects. You've got some good testimonials here for some things that have worked for others. Imagine those who have no clue what is going on or what to do about it.

The magnesium at bedtime definitely helps me. I also had to take Tylenonl PM sometimes.

dar7726 · 10-11-2004, 03:29 PM

You might try Gaba as well... It is a amino acid that induces relaxation...

Darlene

RockSinger · 10-11-2004, 06:17 PM

PaxilGirly:

If it's makes you feel any better.....

We are in the same boat right now.....

It's rediculous..

I just took a pretty big drop in Effexor (Same as going from Paxil 25 to 12.5 abruptly)

That was 3 days ago and I am getting waves of the most DREADFULL DOOM AND GLOOM.

It's just impossible for anyone else to understand.

The thing is.....I can TELL that it's drug induced........because no matter WHAT....I can't control it...

It's so discusting to be here in my house with a happy family.........my wife sitting happily doing her nails.......My kids happily playing Ps2....

My little pomeranians just hangin out.....

Everyone and everything is so perfect.

And then here comes the waves of CRAP......

WE DO NOT DESERVE THIS.....

But you know what......just like you.......I'm keeping a positive attitude.

This will all be better soon.

If it dosen't........you and me can hang out and drive each other nuts....

Ok?.....

paxilgirl · 10-11-2004, 08:37 PM

Quote:

If it dosen't........you and me can hang out and drive each other nuts....

Ok?.....

No problem Rocksinger!

BTW, your wife is a cutie!

paxilgirl · 10-11-2004, 08:40 PM

Thanks all of you for your advice....I'll be lookingn into your suggestions this week.

I'm trying to go to bed now.

Wish me luck!

Scott · 10-11-2004, 09:48 PM

I ran out of magnesium and i've noticed it's harder for me to sleep and I feel more anxious.. so maybe it does work.

sarah · 10-12-2004, 04:15 AM

Paxilgirl, it will get better I promise. I took my last paxhell last May. I am feeling really well now, but I remember back to the first few weeks after the last pill. Night time was like torture. I had to talk myself, most nights, out of having a panic attack. My first ever panic attack had happened at 2:30am, so every night I would go to bed and lie waiting for the terror to take hold. I can't remember how long it went on for, but I became determined to beat it and did. I would have a lovely long bubble bath and read a book for an hour or so just before going to bed. If the scary thoughts started I would switch on the tv or grab my book again and read until they went away. I would take a shower at the most ungodly hours of the night. I would go for a walk. Only up and down my little road, but that always seemed to calm me. I would sit on my back door step and look at the stars and the moon and realise what a tiny part of this large universe we all are. Sometimes that helped get things into perspective. But it does get better and you will get there. Sleep deprivation in itself is a terrible thing, so combine that with the hell of withdrawal, which of course causes the sleep problems, and it isn't easy. Give yourself a huge pat on the back for not taking that pill. I cannot tell you how many times I was tempted, but I never did, and the scary thing is, I still have a couple of packs of the sh-t in my cupboard. I will definitely get rid of them when I get home tonight. Keep going Paxilgirl, you are doing fantastic.
Love
Sarah x

10-09-2004, 07:23 PM	#1
paxilgirl "Stinks of lavender" Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 12,220	Day 7 Paxil free I must say that this has been QUITE the week. I've been feeling the roller coaster effects of being paxil free and not liking it at all. I almost came close to taking a pill last night. The thing is, my greatest difficulties is when I go to bed. That is when all the anxiety and worries and just downright dispair keep flaring up. To the point now that I hat the thought of going to bed. I don't want to. I just end up crying for half an hour. I'm wondering when this will stop as it upsets me even more. Is there anything NATURAL I can take to calm me down? The lack of, and fear of going to, sleep is putting a stress on me. yawn! __________________ Paxilgirl Put on Paxil for situational depression in August 2003. Was also on .5 mg of Clonozapem. Started on 10mg and increased to 30mg. Weaned off during the summer of 2004. Became PAXIL FREE October 4, 2004. Completely recovered!!! When you stop learning, you start dying.

10-09-2004, 08:17 PM	#2
scotty Administrator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: new jersey Posts: 46,992	Paxil girl, sleep was the worst for Ryan. That's when the defenses we naturally have kind of fall apart. He would end up staying up all night and then sleeping in the day. His sleep is still screwed up, but not as bad as the initial month off paxil. It slowly got better!! __________________ AKA Laurie "Faith is taking the first step even when you don't see the whole staircase." MLK

10-09-2004, 09:28 PM	#3
paxilgirl "Stinks of lavender" Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 12,220	Laurie, thanks for that piece of information. A lot of my anxiety of this sleep business is because I tend to think of things that make me axious and sad during the night and try avoiding going to bed. I know I have to eventually, but I can't bring myself to do it. __________________ Paxilgirl Put on Paxil for situational depression in August 2003. Was also on .5 mg of Clonozapem. Started on 10mg and increased to 30mg. Weaned off during the summer of 2004. Became PAXIL FREE October 4, 2004. Completely recovered!!! When you stop learning, you start dying.

10-09-2004, 11:25 PM	#4
elisa Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,473	Paxilgirl - it's definitely no fun when you're not able to sleep because of anxiety. What I find helpful is sprinkling some lavender extract drops on a cloth near my bed pillow. Then try to relax by taking slow deep breaths. Another one is to take Rescue Remedy from Bach. You can find this in any good health food store. Valerian Root is good and numerous other products, all natural, to ease you into sleep. Hope it helps a little. __________________ On A/D's since 1995, switching due to side-effects on 30 different brands of TCA's, SSRI's, SNRI's, Antipsychotics, Benzo's & Imovane. 6 ECT's. Tapering from 225 mg Effexor XR May 17, 2004. (Equiv. to 60 mg Paxil) Last taper Effexor XR Jan 17, 2006 down to ZERO. Currently protracted withdrawal. Sept 2006: 25 mg Doxepin. March 13/09: 10 mg Desipramine

10-11-2004, 03:09 PM	#5
silence4now Join Date: May 2004 Location: SE U.S. Posts: 3,455	Paxilgirl, It's commendable that you've been off 1 whole week, you knew about the withdrawal, and yet you HAVEN"T taken a pill! The next few months will just be an experiment in trying to manage the side effects. You've got some good testimonials here for some things that have worked for others. Imagine those who have no clue what is going on or what to do about it. The magnesium at bedtime definitely helps me. I also had to take Tylenonl PM sometimes. __________________ Lisa - Paxil free since May 2004 _________________________________ God's economy is always positive.

10-11-2004, 03:29 PM	#6
dar7726 Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,474	You might try Gaba as well... It is a amino acid that induces relaxation... Darlene

10-11-2004, 06:17 PM	#7
RockSinger Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Maine Posts: 663	PaxilGirly: If it's makes you feel any better..... We are in the same boat right now..... It's rediculous.. I just took a pretty big drop in Effexor (Same as going from Paxil 25 to 12.5 abruptly) That was 3 days ago and I am getting waves of the most DREADFULL DOOM AND GLOOM. It's just impossible for anyone else to understand. The thing is.....I can TELL that it's drug induced........because no matter WHAT....I can't control it... It's so discusting to be here in my house with a happy family.........my wife sitting happily doing her nails.......My kids happily playing Ps2.... My little pomeranians just hangin out..... Everyone and everything is so perfect. And then here comes the waves of CRAP...... WE DO NOT DESERVE THIS..... But you know what......just like you.......I'm keeping a positive attitude. This will all be better soon. If it dosen't........you and me can hang out and drive each other nuts.... Ok?..... __________________ The Paxil Withdrawal Song http://www.geocities.com/barb_kno/rocksinger.html

10-11-2004, 08:40 PM	#9
paxilgirl "Stinks of lavender" Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 12,220	Thanks all of you for your advice....I'll be lookingn into your suggestions this week. I'm trying to go to bed now. Wish me luck! __________________ Paxilgirl Put on Paxil for situational depression in August 2003. Was also on .5 mg of Clonozapem. Started on 10mg and increased to 30mg. Weaned off during the summer of 2004. Became PAXIL FREE October 4, 2004. Completely recovered!!! When you stop learning, you start dying.

10-11-2004, 09:48 PM	#10
Scott Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: somewhere in between Posts: 11,591	I ran out of magnesium and i've noticed it's harder for me to sleep and I feel more anxious.. so maybe it does work. __________________ Scott aka Scott What has happened to it all? Crazy, some are saying Where is the life that I recognize? Gone away But I won't cry for yesterday There's an ordinary world Somehow I have to find And as I try to make my way To the ordinary world I will learn to survive surviving an ssri reaction alternative anxiety treatments

10-12-2004, 04:15 AM	#11
sarah "Texts gerbils!" Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: UK Posts: 3,861	Paxilgirl, it will get better I promise. I took my last paxhell last May. I am feeling really well now, but I remember back to the first few weeks after the last pill. Night time was like torture. I had to talk myself, most nights, out of having a panic attack. My first ever panic attack had happened at 2:30am, so every night I would go to bed and lie waiting for the terror to take hold. I can't remember how long it went on for, but I became determined to beat it and did. I would have a lovely long bubble bath and read a book for an hour or so just before going to bed. If the scary thoughts started I would switch on the tv or grab my book again and read until they went away. I would take a shower at the most ungodly hours of the night. I would go for a walk. Only up and down my little road, but that always seemed to calm me. I would sit on my back door step and look at the stars and the moon and realise what a tiny part of this large universe we all are. Sometimes that helped get things into perspective. But it does get better and you will get there. Sleep deprivation in itself is a terrible thing, so combine that with the hell of withdrawal, which of course causes the sleep problems, and it isn't easy. Give yourself a huge pat on the back for not taking that pill. I cannot tell you how many times I was tempted, but I never did, and the scary thing is, I still have a couple of packs of the sh-t in my cupboard. I will definitely get rid of them when I get home tonight. Keep going Paxilgirl, you are doing fantastic. Love Sarah x

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