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Old 04-05-2012, 02:31 PM   #1
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Can therapy be detrimental?

Just wondering this....I just left my therapist's office and here I am crying AGAIN. It seems like we just spent an hour confirming the fact that YES I'm depressed. What a revelation! I told her right off the bat when we met for the first time last week that I'm here for CBT. I'm pretty sure this is not. The last therapist I went to was the same way....we talked and I cried...for 8 wks. I told her I wanted homework and worksheets, she agreed to bring some by next weeks session. (i think she thought that was a little weird) She has given very little credence to the fact that I'm in WD right now and that could be playing a major role in my emotional state. She believes I'm depressed and that the wd situation isn't helping matters. Idk maybe she's right. All I know is I feel a whole lot worse now than I did when I went in. Just trying to figure out HOW this is beneficial? I get in enough crying on my own

How do your therapy sessions go? Do you cry alot?
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Old 04-05-2012, 02:55 PM   #2
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Re: Can therapy be detrimental?

Hell no. I go to my therapist and I feel he is very supportive, has given me wonderful advice and I leave hopeful. He is not condescending, but supportive.

Even if you are depressed there is no point in reminding you that; he/she should be trying to find the cause and working on it. You need all the support in this world at this time.
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Old 04-05-2012, 02:59 PM   #3
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Re: Can therapy be detrimental?

I can't believe you just said this. I have had 4 different therapists in the last year. No matter who I go to I go in asking for CBT help and each person doesn't seem to be in a hurry to help me with it. They just seem to want to talk. I've even asked for worksheets and homework. I've told them I'd like them to TEACH me how to do this CBT (I have books but need guidance) but for some reason they ALL beat around the bush (one even told me I don't need it, I need DBT because I'm so damn emotional). All these therapists I've chosen are CBT psychotherapists yet when asked right out to help me with it, they don't want to seem to help. I too usually feel worse coming out of there and STILL in desperate need to learn some CBT. I have incredible health anxiety and I notice it getting much worse again since being off meds but I don't have a clue how to work on it. I can only talk about it, acknowledge It so much to these therapists but that's not going to help it o away!! I'm frustrated as well!!
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Old 04-05-2012, 03:21 PM   #4
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Re: Can therapy be detrimental?

If a therapist claims CBT, but doesn't practice CBT, then they're not CBT Therapists. They may all be certified in this particular practice, but obviously it's not what they specialize in. Sometimes, you have to kiss some frogs before you find that prince and that's true in anything. When you find a person who says they specialize in CBT, you should call the office, tell them EXACTLY what you're looking for in a therapist (worksheets, coping skills, homework, etc.) and find out if this is what they do. If not, move on to the next. Sure, go in for an initial consultation, if necessary, but tell them just that when you make the appointment, "I'll schedule a consultation to see if this is the type of therapist I'm looking for." When looking for any professional to do anything these days, you seriously have to interview them first. It's a pain in the butt, but it's necessary in order to find the right fit.

Of course, that doesn't mean they're not going to ask questions and find out more about you, too - that's their job. But, if you're not getting what you want out of the visits, move on to the next.
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Old 04-05-2012, 03:25 PM   #5
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It's funny that you are posting this message now, because I had a similar situation last week! I went to a counselor and I found her kind of cold. When i left the appointment, I felt very unmotivated, self-conscious, and was also in a negative mood. I tried a new counselor a few days ago and it was better. I felt like she understood me a lot better. If you want someone who does CBT, start looking for another therapist and don't feel bad. Different types of therapy work for different people, and maybe this therapist just isn't for you.
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Old 04-05-2012, 04:01 PM   #6
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Re: Can therapy be detrimental?

Well she said she'd bring in worksheets next week, she also told me to bring in the CBT workbook I purchased previously and we'd go over it together. She's at least trying to be helpful. I'll give it another week but I swear if I go home crying again THATS IT. My problem's depression and I'm not sure CBT's going to work for that anyway. I dont know what the hell's gonna work. I mentioned DBT and she just shook her head and mumbled something about how that wouldn't be right for me. If i wasn't so tired and had half a brain I could maybe recollect. Did I mention how incredibly tired I am? Geez.
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Old 04-05-2012, 04:34 PM   #7
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Re: Can therapy be detrimental?

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Hell no. I go to my therapist and I feel he is very supportive, has given me wonderful advice and I leave hopeful. He is not condescending, but supportive.

Even if you are depressed there is no point in reminding you that; he/she should be trying to find the cause and working on it. You need all the support in this world at this time.
Thank you, that's exactly how I feel...I want ur guy! He's not in CA is he?
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Old 04-05-2012, 07:40 PM   #8
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Re: Can therapy be detrimental?

No I am sorry he is in South Florida where I live
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Old 04-05-2012, 07:51 PM   #9
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Re: Can therapy be detrimental?

Hi Wld! It all depends on the therapist. If they discount that you are indeed experiencing withdrawal, it is not a good match. If they push you too much beyond your limits to do things you are not yet ready to do, it can be very detrimental. Like for example, I don't leave my house very often. If my therapist pushes me to go to a concert now, I would fire her!

I don't think talk therapy helps in withdrawal because they'll try to dig up traumatic stuff from your past that you've probably already overcome, but you will have an out-of-proportion response to these things in withdrawal...and they'll have you concentrate on pure B.S. If they dig, they'll find...they'll find stuff to justify our withdrawal symptoms for each and everyone of us because we're human and haven't had a perfect life (because it just doesn't exist)...so you may end up feeling worse when you leave (which is what seems to have happened to you).

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Old 04-05-2012, 07:55 PM   #10
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Move on. There is a specific course on CBT you can do and it is a set amount of time , like 3 months or something. It's quite specific if you are actually doing CBT, and a real CBT therapist will know about this.
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Old 04-05-2012, 07:56 PM   #11
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Re: Can therapy be detrimental?

While my brother was going through withdrawal, he saw several therapists. He is still very angry about one that he saw, even several years later. He kept saying that he felt worse after talking to him. Eventually, he went to a different therapist. I think therapists vary as much as any other kind of doctor, or profession, for that matter. If you don't feel like you are getting any benefit from your therapist, you would probably do better with another one.
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