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Old 04-20-2012, 05:27 PM   #1
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Dr. Oz

I couldn't sleep last night, and was watching a recorded Dr. Oz episode. Love Dr. Oz... but wasn't too thrilled with him last night.

He was doing a segment on "is your medication making you fat?" and it was interesting. He was talking to a woman in the audience who had two deaths in her immediate family in the past few years and had gained 60 pounds. I immediately perked up and thought ohhh... it's has to be an anti depressant she is on!

Sure enough, it was an SSRI, and Dr. Oz revealed to the audience that SSRIs can cause up to 25 pounds of extra weight gain. It was the highest weight gain out of any of the other meds he discussed. He then said this is a huge side effect as well as loss of sex drive.

I liked the direction he was going in, and then he said she should talk to her doctor about switching from an SSRI to an SNRI.

I had never heard of an SNRI, but they sound just as scary, if not scarier than SSRIs. From what I found, they are stimulants as well?

First time Dr. Oz has let me down!
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Old 04-20-2012, 05:35 PM   #2
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Re: Dr. Oz

Same here. I gained 70 pounds on Paxil. I look at pictures of myself taken a couple years ago and wonder at the mushy face I had then. I think SNRI reduces Serotonin, I'm not sure about them being stimulants. I can't imagine the crossover problems related to switching from an SSRI to an SNRI, it must be horrible.
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Old 04-20-2012, 07:34 PM   #3
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Re: Dr. Oz

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Same here. I gained 70 pounds on Paxil. I look at pictures of myself taken a couple years ago and wonder at the mushy face I had then. I think SNRI reduces Serotonin, I'm not sure about them being stimulants. I can't imagine the crossover problems related to switching from an SSRI to an SNRI, it must be horrible.
Effexor and Pristiq are snri's, they work as ssri's until a certain dose, and then they, in theory, act to elevate serotonin and norepinephrine. While the weight gain isn't as prominent as with ssri's, it's still a problem. And getting off an snri is a nightmare....oh, and Dr. Oz is an idiot!

From rxlist.com for effexor:

Metabolic and nutritional - Frequent: edema, weight gain;
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:27 PM   #4
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I can attest to getting off an SNRI, I nealry cold turkeyed from Effexor from a high dose. It's been over a year and I still have bad spells, and for awhile was really sick. I think it contributed to weight gain, and definately loss of libido, but Paxil seems to be even worse for weight gain.
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:34 PM   #5
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Yes, Dr. Oz is an idiot! Totally agree with scotty!
He did a segment once bashing Big Pharma and posted it online the next day...two days later the video was nowhere to be found. It was also removed from youtube (while othe segments from his show remained)..suspicious hmmm..
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Old 04-21-2012, 06:02 AM   #6
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What I'd like to know is if people are seeing a difference and losing weight at a lower dose of ssri (sub-therapeutic doses), or if they have to be completely off to lose the weight? I know there is no good answer as I have researched this a couple of times in the past few years and always found mixed results. But, what have your experiences been?
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Old 04-21-2012, 06:24 AM   #7
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Sparkswallace- I'm at 5 months now and as I was weaning off the drug (not completely off of it) I could tell things were getting better with regards to appetite and carb cravings, but not normal still. It took a good 4 months before I realized this is how much I used to eat before ssri's. It was definitely not an overnight thing and it takes time. I'm still expecting improvement as the months go on. Tim
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Old 04-21-2012, 09:49 AM   #8
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I haven't notice any changes yet, but I'm only starting my taper.
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Old 04-21-2012, 01:43 PM   #9
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Re: Dr. Oz

Thanks for responding Tim and Aberdeen. This is an effect of the ssri that I truely hate!!
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Old 04-22-2012, 09:05 AM   #10
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Re: Dr. Oz

I am now down to 7.7mg and I have lost 10 lbs since I started my taper. The weight was so stubborn so I was surprised when it started coming off on its own. I noticed my appetite has decreased and don't have sugar cravings except during that time of the month.
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Old 04-22-2012, 09:21 AM   #11
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Awesome!
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