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Old 04-23-2012, 03:54 PM   #1
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Define being stable...

What does being stable mean to you all? Since I never had to go back and stabilize on Paxil I really don't know what that means. I know what it means to feel crappy and have all those symptoms with paxil withdrawal. I don't think that being stable means being symptom free, right?
20 mg paxil 1998 for "night terrors"
2 attempts to quit mid 2000's
mid 2010, 10 mg after poopout
1 month 5 mg
5/5/2011 C/T'd
2 months physical symptoms minor bad thoughts then emotional hell, complete panic mid July
July 2011 started 15 mg Remeron for sleep
November 2013 at 1.0mg Remeron

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Old 04-23-2012, 04:16 PM   #2
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Re: Define being stable...

You're correct. Stable, especially if you're in tolerance (poop out) doesn't necessarily mean symptom free. However, you should feel somewhat decent enough, and confident enough to taper.
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Old 04-23-2012, 08:39 PM   #3
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Re: Define being stable...

Good question! Something am always wondering about!

I waited for 11weeks and had 1 good day and dropped. Not even sure 1 day is long enought to wait! ANyway, I survived.

I am in the same boat again now. In week 11 and not sure whether to drop at the end of this week or not.
1995-2001 20mg
2008-2010 alt doses/skipping doses/switching med/CT
2011-10mg: 10% drops from 10mg to about 7.7
over 6 weeks-crashed after 6 mos
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July 2011 - 9mg
July-Oct 8mg/9mg (inacurate scales)
Oct 2011 - 8.6 caps
Nov 2011 - 8.1 caps
Dec 2011 - 8.1 tab
Dec 14 - 7.7
Jan 11 - 7.3
May 2012 - 7.0
Jun 6.6
Aug 6.4 2.5%
Oct 6.2
Dec 6.0
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Oct 5.1
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:48 PM   #4
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Re: Define being stable...

I think it's probably different for everyone - not a helpful answer, but true!
For me, it's feeling like I have a little calm area inside - a sense of inner strength. Even if it's fleeting, comes and goes, or is very small, it's a distinct feeling that I can handle things again, that I'm not just treading water. It certainly isn't being 'symptom free', but it IS related to any of the more severe symptoms I might experience a few days after a drop having settled down to a manageable roar. I suppose I'm lucky that I do have a kind of pattern - many don't.
'83-90: Various tricyclics, anti-psychotics, tranqs.
'90-02: Prozac - poopout 2002
'02-10: Paroxetine 40, 60, 80mg.
Jun10-Feb11: 80-60mg, 5-12% 6wkly
Feb-Jul11: 60-50, 5% 6wkly
Jul11-Mar12: 50-20, 10% 6wkly
Hold at 20 for winter...
Aug-Dec12: 18-9.5, 10% 4wkly
Jan-Jun13: 8.6-3.7, 10% 4wkly
Jul-Dec13: 3.3-1.5, 10% 4wkly (1 bigger drop to 1.5)
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Old 04-24-2012, 03:14 AM   #5
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Re: Define being stable...

for me stable and having a good day is not experiencing health anixety.
Paxil History:
20mg - April 1997
0mg - Summer 1998
30mg - October 1999
20mg - October 2002 - July 2011
20mg to 10mg - July 2011 - March 2012 (10% taper)
CRASHED when i got to 5.2mg
Back on 10mg - August 2012
Staying on 10mg - for the time being.
Pleased i am on half my original dose.
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Old 04-29-2012, 01:37 AM   #6
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Re: Define being stable...

Does that mean that just 1 day of feeling "stable" is sufficient and then taper?
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Old 04-29-2012, 02:11 AM   #7
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Re: Define being stable...

For me it means no new symptoms and a distinct lessening of the regular ones.

Aropax (Paxil) taper:
2009 23 Sept - 40mg; 12 Dec -30mg;
2010 Up and down - 25mg-30mg; 17 Dec-26mg
2011 25mg- 18 mg
2012 17mg -12.5mg
2013 27 Jan-12mg, 11 Mar-11.5mg, 2 May-11mg, 10 July-13mg, added 12.5mg Amitryptline 20 July; 5 Aug-titrated up to 75mg, stopped @13 Aug due to SS

Last dose of 13mg Aropax 15 Oct 2013. Switched to Citalopram 21 Oct in an attempt to stabilise.

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Old 04-29-2012, 02:18 AM   #8
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Re: Define being stable...

Thanks guys, these tips have been very helpful for me. I just re-read them, and thought that one about feeling "confident" is a good one too.
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:44 AM   #9
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Re: Define being stable...

For me being stable is having that confident feeling for at least week. Not that feeling of "at any moment I may become scared, frightened, lose my mind" etc. But I wouldn't classify 1 good day as stable. I'd wait at least a week of feeling pretty good.
- 1998-2002: Celexa 20mg
- 2002-2010: Paxil 20mg
- 2009 - 20-0 mg paxil in 5 mnths(with prozac)
- 2009 (Dec): reinstated after 4 mnths off (crash)
- 2009 Dec -2010 Nov: Paxil 20mg
- 2010 Nov: switched to Zoloft 50mg (Paxil poop)
- 2011 Mar: tapered Zoloft (5.5 mnths)
- March: 37.5mg for 2 weeks
- April: 25 mg for 2 weeks
- April: 12.5mg for 18 weeks
AD free since Sept 4th, 2011
- Feb - March 2012: Crashed
- May 2012 - Finally seeing SOME real windows
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