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Old 04-18-2012, 11:13 AM   #1
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Jonathan's Journal

Well I thought I'd start my own journal. I think it will be useful for me and hopefully for others going through a similar experience.

So I suppose I should start by giving a summary of how I ended up here.

1996-2003: I became depressed and socially phobic during my time at school, due to bullying and various other things.

2003: I left school and attended university for 6 weeks. I could no longer cope with the depression/anxiety and desperately needed help. I left university and saw a psychiatrist, who prescribed Paroxetine (Paxil) and psychologist for CBT.

2005: I had recovered enough to be able to attend university, but I stayed on Paroxetine and continued to see my psychologist. My 1st year of university went very well, and I won a scholarship for being in the top 3 in my class.

2006: I was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome, which explained A LOT! I also started having severe exam anxiety, which resulted in me attempting suicide by overdosing on Propranolol. After this happened I was swtiched from Paroxetine to Escitalopram (Lexapro).

2007-2009: Continued to have depression/anxiety at university and eventually dropped out without completing my degree. I was also switched from Lexapro to 75mg Effexor. It seemed to work well except for brain fog, poor memory, etc.

2010: I tried finishing my degree via part-time study at the Open University (distance learning) but I still had some problems.

2011: Eventually I was diagnosed with ADD by a private psychiatrist and put on Methylphenidate (Ritalin) 3x5mg per day. It was like a miracle! The drug seemed to work really well, and after trying a few different ones (dexedrine, concerta, etc) it seemed to be the best, until...

I switched from Effexor to Mirtazapine (Remeron) after tapering for a month. I went crazy - racing thoughts, rage, driving like a maniac, suicidal thoughts, etc. After a month on mirt, I was put back on 75mg Effexor. However, I noticed I had physical anxiety/electric feelings after going back on. The Ritalin seemed to make this feeling A LOT worse, even though I never had this problem before.

I decided to taper off Effexor in one month again, as it just seemed to be causing problems now. I had brain zaps for a week and poor appetite, nausea, brain fog, for a few weeks, until...

2012: 5 weeks after quitting I had massive anxiety, which was a lot worse than before and partially due to the fact that my ADD meds no longer worked like they used to, and I was due to return to university.

I found PP and reinstated to 9 mg for a week before going up to 37.5 mg. I felt better after about 2 weeks, so I went up to my full dose of 75 mg. 2 weeks on 75 mg and I felt awful, so I dropped back down to 37.5 mg again. I've stayed there for 6 weeks now.

I feel a lot better compared to how I was when I tapered too quickly, but still not 100%. My teeth chatter and I get this tingling/burning sensation in my arms and legs. Sometimes it seems like it's getting better but then it comes back again. I think I will give it another week or two before tapering.

I'm planning to go 10% every 3-6 weeks until I reach 18.75 mg, then, assuming all goes well, I will taper 5% every 3-6 weeks.
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Nov/Dec: Fast Tapered Effexor - w/d hell
5/2/12: Reinstated Effexor 37.5mg
20/2/12: Updosed 75mg
9/3/12: Dropped 37.5mg
30/4/12: 33.8mg
1/5/12: 37.5mg
4/5/12: 35.6mg
19/6/12: Dropped 2.5%
23/6/12: 35.6mg
29/6/12: 37.5mg
30/6/12: 35.6mg
17/7/12: 37.5mg
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Old 04-30-2012, 01:42 AM   #2
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Re: Jonathan's Journal

Ok, I was going to start my 10% taper today, but before I do I just want to make sure that I've stayed on long enough? I've been back on for about 3 months and more or less stable for 2 months.

Emotionally, I feel much better than I did when I fast tapered, but I've got this shaky muscle tension, which seemed to start after I reinstated, so I'm pretty eager to get off now.

The plan is to try 10% until I get half way, then go 5%, as Effexor is hell to get off of and people seem to hit w/d at lower doses.
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Nov/Dec: Fast Tapered Effexor - w/d hell
5/2/12: Reinstated Effexor 37.5mg
20/2/12: Updosed 75mg
9/3/12: Dropped 37.5mg
30/4/12: 33.8mg
1/5/12: 37.5mg
4/5/12: 35.6mg
19/6/12: Dropped 2.5%
23/6/12: 35.6mg
29/6/12: 37.5mg
30/6/12: 35.6mg
17/7/12: 37.5mg
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Old 04-30-2012, 03:11 AM   #3
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Re: Jonathan's Journal

Did you find the handy excel sheet that calculates the doses?
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:33 AM   #4
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Re: Jonathan's Journal

I actually made my own spread sheet with the correct weights for my brand of venlafaxine (Effexor). Thanks for the info though
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5/2/12: Reinstated Effexor 37.5mg
20/2/12: Updosed 75mg
9/3/12: Dropped 37.5mg
30/4/12: 33.8mg
1/5/12: 37.5mg
4/5/12: 35.6mg
19/6/12: Dropped 2.5%
23/6/12: 35.6mg
29/6/12: 37.5mg
30/6/12: 35.6mg
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:02 AM   #5
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I actually made my own spread sheet with the correct weights for my brand of venlafaxine (Effexor). Thanks for the info though
Ok cause that sheet here has a lot of excel formulas in it so its handy. Perhaps an idea to compare with your own sheet so you know its ok?

I wish you the best of luck!!
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:56 PM   #6
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Re: Jonathan's Journal

Ok. I've compared my spread sheet with the one here and it seems fine.

I dropped 10% for the first time tonight, from 37.5mg to 33.8mg.
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5/2/12: Reinstated Effexor 37.5mg
20/2/12: Updosed 75mg
9/3/12: Dropped 37.5mg
30/4/12: 33.8mg
1/5/12: 37.5mg
4/5/12: 35.6mg
19/6/12: Dropped 2.5%
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30/6/12: 35.6mg
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Old 04-30-2012, 04:04 PM   #7
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Re: Jonathan's Journal

I Think ur plan sounds level headed.... For ME...just me, I noticed that when first dropping my dosage things got ugly quick so I almost thought....no I did think...heck if its this bad already...why not just go off altogether bc I'm allergic to it anyway and I dont work so....so I stocked up on benadryl, my ambian, segrems ginger ale and dug nails in....going off even a couple pellets was almost as much hell as ct for some odd reason so.....if I had to work or have to try and keep a "life"during wd, I would definetly recommend 5% or lower once you get lower down in dosage.....I THINK that at first ANY drop confuses ur brain, than it adjusts a lil until you decide to try n just go off altogether....than it decides "screw you"lol but so NOT funny...
The fact that these manufactures give most these new ADs the short half life....I swear its a conspiracy to keep us on for life...smart and evil.....!!!!!! Screw them, I say....This anger IS what keeps me clear about the fact I will never go on them ADs again...We are the idiots paying for their childrens fancy private schools while having our lives torn apart....Ugg....ok I'm done going off on a rampage.....haha at least for today
I pray you are successful in getting off this crap completly....Best of luck hun!!!!
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:39 PM   #8
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Re: Jonathan's Journal

Effexor is brutal! I had the shakes and tremors too, my teeth chattered and my hands shook, I even quivered internally, and I don't mean akathesia (that was more of an internal restlessness that made me need to pace and walk). I felt cold all the time too. The anxiety was absolutely hideous and like nothing I had ever experienced in my entire life. YOu're going to do fine, so glad you updosed!
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Old 05-01-2012, 02:34 AM   #9
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Wow - I definitely feel more anxious today and slightly nauseous. I'm a believer - you CAN feel 10% drops! Should I just wait it out for 3-6 weeks or try 5% instead?

If my "reinstatement symptoms" seem to get worse after dropping, does this mean they were actually w/d symptoms and not due to reinstatement? If so, should I have actually increased the dose until these symptoms are gone?
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5/2/12: Reinstated Effexor 37.5mg
20/2/12: Updosed 75mg
9/3/12: Dropped 37.5mg
30/4/12: 33.8mg
1/5/12: 37.5mg
4/5/12: 35.6mg
19/6/12: Dropped 2.5%
23/6/12: 35.6mg
29/6/12: 37.5mg
30/6/12: 35.6mg
17/7/12: 37.5mg
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Old 05-01-2012, 10:12 AM   #10
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Re: Jonathan's Journal

Well my first drop has been a huge disaster - I feel awful, I've been in a right state crying like a baby.
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5/2/12: Reinstated Effexor 37.5mg
20/2/12: Updosed 75mg
9/3/12: Dropped 37.5mg
30/4/12: 33.8mg
1/5/12: 37.5mg
4/5/12: 35.6mg
19/6/12: Dropped 2.5%
23/6/12: 35.6mg
29/6/12: 37.5mg
30/6/12: 35.6mg
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Old 05-01-2012, 04:53 PM   #11
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Re: Jonathan's Journal

I went back up to 37.5mg. Gonna wait until I feel better before trying 5%.
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5/2/12: Reinstated Effexor 37.5mg
20/2/12: Updosed 75mg
9/3/12: Dropped 37.5mg
30/4/12: 33.8mg
1/5/12: 37.5mg
4/5/12: 35.6mg
19/6/12: Dropped 2.5%
23/6/12: 35.6mg
29/6/12: 37.5mg
30/6/12: 35.6mg
17/7/12: 37.5mg
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:07 AM   #12
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I don't know what to do...

I dropped out of university, tried to finish my degree at by part-time distance learning and dropped out again. I got diagnosed with inattentive ADHD and put on stims. I finally felt like I could finish my degree with the help of my medication and re-enrolled. Then I decided to come off Effexor and all hell broke loose - anxiety, etc but worst of all my stims seemed to lose their effectiveness. Now they just make me feel depressed. On top of that, I still don't feel 100% like myself. I feel under pressure to get "normal" again, with stims working, before the exams come or I won't be able to do them again.

It just feels like a lot to deal with all at once - wd/reinstatement symptoms, non-working stims and future exams...

If I couldn't finish my degree when I was stable, how can I do it now.
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5/2/12: Reinstated Effexor 37.5mg
20/2/12: Updosed 75mg
9/3/12: Dropped 37.5mg
30/4/12: 33.8mg
1/5/12: 37.5mg
4/5/12: 35.6mg
19/6/12: Dropped 2.5%
23/6/12: 35.6mg
29/6/12: 37.5mg
30/6/12: 35.6mg
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Old 05-05-2012, 03:08 PM   #13
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Re: Jonathan's Journal

I dropped 5% yesterday, haven't noticed much difference so far.
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5/2/12: Reinstated Effexor 37.5mg
20/2/12: Updosed 75mg
9/3/12: Dropped 37.5mg
30/4/12: 33.8mg
1/5/12: 37.5mg
4/5/12: 35.6mg
19/6/12: Dropped 2.5%
23/6/12: 35.6mg
29/6/12: 37.5mg
30/6/12: 35.6mg
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Old 05-09-2012, 03:54 PM   #14
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Well I think I'm going to have to give up the Ritalin. I had taken a break from it during my w/d fiasco, and decided to give it another go, with permission from my psychiatrist. But after taking it for a few days it doesn't seem to be working so well, and I started getting really depressed. At first, I thought it was the rebound when the drug wears off, so my psych prescribed a slow release version, which is supposed to have less of a come down, but I still felt depressed.

It worked really well for me in the beginning, but started acting strange after I withdrew from Effexor. It could just be a co-incidence and tolerance developed, or the w/d messed up my brain chemistry in some way that stopped it from working. I really hoped it was going to get me through my degree, but I guess not Another life lesson - you can't rely on psych medication.
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5/2/12: Reinstated Effexor 37.5mg
20/2/12: Updosed 75mg
9/3/12: Dropped 37.5mg
30/4/12: 33.8mg
1/5/12: 37.5mg
4/5/12: 35.6mg
19/6/12: Dropped 2.5%
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Old 05-11-2012, 07:24 AM   #15
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I haven't taken any Ritalin for the past two days and am feeling MUCH better.

I've also been reading "Potatoes not Prozac" by Dr Kathleen Desmaisons and "Been there, done that? Do this!" by Sam Obitz.

Potatoes not Prozac is about people who are essentially addicted to sugar (sugarsensitive), which can cause unstable moods, depression, anxiety, poor concentration, etc. She gives 7 steps, which must be completed in sequence, in order to stabilise blood sugar, serotonin and beta-endorphin. She backs up her info with science and I haven't found anything online about her being a quack, so hopefully it will help.

Been there, done that? Do this! is a simple guide on CBT. He teaches you about all the different cognitive distortions we have, which can lead to and keep us depressed/anxious. His method of CBT involves using TEA Forms, which sem fairly easy to do and I plan on carrying this out.
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5/2/12: Reinstated Effexor 37.5mg
20/2/12: Updosed 75mg
9/3/12: Dropped 37.5mg
30/4/12: 33.8mg
1/5/12: 37.5mg
4/5/12: 35.6mg
19/6/12: Dropped 2.5%
23/6/12: 35.6mg
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30/6/12: 35.6mg
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Old 05-27-2012, 10:36 AM   #16
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Re: Jonathan's Journal

2 weeks after cutting I started feeling tired and physically anxious.

A week later and I'm feeling better than I did last week but still a little strange. I noticed I was more irritable, but I suspect this and the other "strangeness" is actually my emotions returning full force. I've been on AD's for about 8 years, so it's been a while since I've felt my full range of emotions. It doesn't feel bad - just different.

I've also been having anxious thoughts but I've found it easy to counter them. Usually I'd be a ball of despair when this happens. Could AD's actually make it more difficult to deal with anxiety?
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5/2/12: Reinstated Effexor 37.5mg
20/2/12: Updosed 75mg
9/3/12: Dropped 37.5mg
30/4/12: 33.8mg
1/5/12: 37.5mg
4/5/12: 35.6mg
19/6/12: Dropped 2.5%
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Old 05-27-2012, 03:06 PM   #17
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I so relate with you. I have inattentive ADD & I remember my desperate struggle to find a balance with ADs & adderall so that I could focus long enough to study. I had the brain jst
no attention span. I am new to wd. I was thrown into wd recently while still on my full dose of 20mg paxil. However, you seem to have found a plan that works for you with the 5% taper. Im really interested in Potatoes Not Prozac. I have always been a sugar addict. I earned my BA degree in 1997. Ive not worked for years because of chronic pain. Im hoping being forced to taper paxil will taper the pain as well and I well have to deal w ADD issues again. I wish you all the best! I did finally graduate and think its because I never gave up. I know you will too!
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Old 06-04-2012, 09:46 AM   #18
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Stress, stress, stress!

My mentor wants me to try and get ahead of the study schedule the university provided, so I have more time to review old material, but my concentration/energy levels aren't great atm (not that they usually are..). Plus my job keeps giving me overtime, which I could probably do, if I wasn't also studying and dealing with Effexor w/d.

Just finding it all a bit much today.

I've decided to stay on my current dose for another 2 weeks just to let things settle.
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5/2/12: Reinstated Effexor 37.5mg
20/2/12: Updosed 75mg
9/3/12: Dropped 37.5mg
30/4/12: 33.8mg
1/5/12: 37.5mg
4/5/12: 35.6mg
19/6/12: Dropped 2.5%
23/6/12: 35.6mg
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30/6/12: 35.6mg
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Old 06-11-2012, 09:01 AM   #19
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I'm beginning to think that the ssri's have been the problem all along.

I was always able to revise for school exams ok, and although I hated it, it wasn't too stressful. After I was put on ssri and went to university, I had real problems trying to get the info from short term into long term memory, I was also tired all the time and didn't have much motivation. It just seemed to take so much effort trying to study, although when I did manage it I done really well. It was just the effort took its toll and I started getting really stressed and even attempted suicide once.
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20/2/12: Updosed 75mg
9/3/12: Dropped 37.5mg
30/4/12: 33.8mg
1/5/12: 37.5mg
4/5/12: 35.6mg
19/6/12: Dropped 2.5%
23/6/12: 35.6mg
29/6/12: 37.5mg
30/6/12: 35.6mg
17/7/12: 37.5mg
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Old 06-20-2012, 05:46 AM   #20
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Re: Jonathan's Journal

I was feeling better emotionally, so I decided to drop 2.5% yesterday.

I think I noticed a pattern emerging in my w/d symptoms - first there's more teeth chattering and nerve buring/tingling, followed by feeling absolutely fantastic (dopamine rebound?), followed by anxiety, followed by a more depressive/lethargic phase with less teeth chattering/nerve tingling. I'm also more fatigued during this phase.

Depending on how this drop goes, I think I might pause for a while to allow my body to stabilize more. I'm thinking the jaw tremor and feeling in my arms and legs is telling me I'm not stable, even though I feel ok emotionally. I'm worried if taper before being fully stable I could end up regretting it further down the line.

If 2.5% drops are still difficult, I've been thinking about trying the Prozac bridge. I've read you should take 10mg Prozac with the Effexor for a week, then drop the Effexor and stabilize on the Prozac. It should then be easier to taper from the Prozac. I know people say the Prozac won't cover Effexor w/d but that doesn't make sense to me - they both block serotonin reuptake, and at the dose I'm on Effexor should only be weakly blocking noradrenaline.

As for my studying, I've pretty much decided I'm going to give it up for now. It just feels like too much for me atm - working part-time, studying, volunteering and dealing with w/d. I'm not even enjoying it - it feels like a huge chore. I've also been considering a change of direction from biomedical science to psychology. I've always been interested in psychology but I felt biomed would lead to a better career. I wonder if the trouble I had at uni was partially because I wasn't really interested in it. I'm studying a biochemistry module atm, which I detest, and I hate learning about lab techniques - they're so boring! I actually applied for a psychology course, but decided against it as I knew I wouldn't get the grades for the university I wanted. But I am able to study it via the distance learning university I'm studying with atm, I would also be able to transfer some credits from my already completed course, so I wouldn't have to start at the beginning.I hoping this time off will allow me to consider what I really want to do.
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Old 06-22-2012, 06:26 AM   #21
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Re: Jonathan's Journal

Feeling the drop already - I had insomnia last night, jittery and anxious today, with racing thoughts and some muscle twitching.

I suspect I wasn't fully stable after the 5% drop, but I was just so eager to drop I went ahead and did it anyway. It amazes me that I can feel such a tiny drop.

Do you think if I stayed on the same dose for a few months to get even more stable, that subsequent drops will be easier?
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5/2/12: Reinstated Effexor 37.5mg
20/2/12: Updosed 75mg
9/3/12: Dropped 37.5mg
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4/5/12: 35.6mg
19/6/12: Dropped 2.5%
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Old 06-22-2012, 06:10 PM   #22
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Re: Jonathan's Journal

I went back up to 35.6mg. Yes I know I'm a huge coward, but I was starting to feel that awful overstimulated feeling I had when in c/t, although not as bad. I was afraid it would get worse, plus just the mere fact it reminded me of full blown w/d =O
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Old 06-24-2012, 08:36 AM   #23
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Went on a day trip to the north Antrim coast here in Northern Ireland. Was a nice day despite the not-so-great weather, least it didn't rain much though.

Carrickfergus castle


Carrick-a-Rede rope bridge (off in the distance)



Scotland, off in the distance


The Giants Causeway - rock formation








The Giant's Boot


The Giant's Organ


Bushmill's Distillery


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5/2/12: Reinstated Effexor 37.5mg
20/2/12: Updosed 75mg
9/3/12: Dropped 37.5mg
30/4/12: 33.8mg
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4/5/12: 35.6mg
19/6/12: Dropped 2.5%
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Old 06-28-2012, 05:45 PM   #24
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Re: Jonathan's Journal

Right I've up dosed to 37.5mg to see if it will help with my teeth chatter, jaw tremor, tingling nerves, etc. I plan to stay here for a good while before making any plans to taper again.

In the mean time I'm going to try and take a break from reading this forum, as it feels like I've been obsessed with w/d for the past few months.
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5/2/12: Reinstated Effexor 37.5mg
20/2/12: Updosed 75mg
9/3/12: Dropped 37.5mg
30/4/12: 33.8mg
1/5/12: 37.5mg
4/5/12: 35.6mg
19/6/12: Dropped 2.5%
23/6/12: 35.6mg
29/6/12: 37.5mg
30/6/12: 35.6mg
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Re: Jonathan's Journal

Best of luck Jr. Please keep us posted as you see fit, we'll be thinking of you.
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